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post #101 of 1026
I guess. But Cutler played much worse than Kaep last year when he wasn't hurt (which was most of the time), so I'm not sure it's much of a solution. And the Fins seem like a team that wants to compete now, which Kaep gives them a better shot at. Hell, Kaep basically played as well as Tannehill, so it's not even like they lost some amazing starter that the guy this year is just temping for.

I don't think NFL owners are racist, at least not any more so than your average white billionaire. But they definitely know that some of their fans are, and they don't want to deal with the uproar - which they've been pretty open about. I get not wanting to deal with the commotion...but I also think Kaep is probably better than a decent amount of the presumed opening-day starters on other teams. That probably says as much about those qbs as it does Kaep, but still.
post #102 of 1026
Kaep doesn't give them a better shot now. Cutler knows the system, Kaep doesn't.

I wish someone would sign him because I'm tired of hearing about it. He's somewhere between the 28th and 36the best QB which means he's trash anyway and if you are starting him you team is hoping to suck enough to get the number one pick and draft a stud QB.
post #103 of 1026

I thought Cutler going to Miami was primarily about Gase. Also, there's no way in hell Miami's going to get Kaep after he extolled the virtues of Fidel Castro.

post #104 of 1026
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I don't think NFL owners are racist, at least not any more so than your average white billionaire.

 

So...

post #105 of 1026
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I guess. But Cutler played much worse than Kaep last year when he wasn't hurt (which was most of the time), so I'm not sure it's much of a solution. And the Fins seem like a team that wants to compete now, which Kaep gives them a better shot at. Hell, Kaep basically played as well as Tannehill, so it's not even like they lost some amazing starter that the guy this year is just temping for.

I don't think NFL owners are racist, at least not any more so than your average white billionaire. But they definitely know that some of their fans are, and they don't want to deal with the uproar - which they've been pretty open about. I get not wanting to deal with the commotion...but I also think Kaep is probably better than a decent amount of the presumed opening-day starters on other teams. That probably says as much about those qbs as it does Kaep, but still.

 

 

I honestly feel it's more of a hedging of bets....Kaep is young enough that he may come in and tear it up and then Miami has a real problem, since Tannehill has been OK but never great. 

The NFL loves the sunk cost fallacy - I feel like most teams would rather tank a year than have a QB that might threaten an entrenched starter, even if the starter isn't a superstar. 


Edited by Chavez - 8/12/17 at 9:25am
post #106 of 1026
The Dolphins aren't winning shit as long Brady and Belicheck are still in NE. They're a 7-9 maybe 8-8 team with Cutler or Kaep; if they're lucky maybe 9-7. Either way they are in absolute NFL purgatory.
post #107 of 1026
The Buccaneers waived kicker Robert Aguayo today, but he's yet to leave the building as he can't find his way through the door.
post #108 of 1026
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I honestly feel it's more of a hedging of bets....Kaep is young enough that he may come in and tear it up and then Miami has a real problem, since Tannehill has been OK but never great. 


The NFL loves the sunk cost fallacy - I feel like most teams would rather tank a year than have a QB that might threaten an entrenched starter, even if the starter isn't a superstar. 
You really think Kaep is going to turn into some All Pro stud? Unless he is in a system that has the QB running a lot he's going to be another shitty QB.
post #109 of 1026

There's "All Pro stud," and there's "better than Tannehill." 
 

 

One is a much easier achievement than the other. 

post #110 of 1026
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The Buccaneers waived kicker Robert Aguayo today, but he's yet to leave the building as he can't find his way through the door.

That just amazes me--he was as automatic as you could get in college. People actually got mad because Jimbo was so quick to opt for a FG instead of going for a 4th down because Aguayo was so accurate.

 

But I will say this--when I went to the Spring Game this year, some guy in front of my son at the line for pizza took every slice that had pepperoni on it. When the guy walked away, I realized it was Roberto Aguayo. DON'T FUCK WITH MY FAMILY.

post #111 of 1026
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That just amazes me--he was as automatic as you could get in college. People actually got mad because Jimbo was so quick to opt for a FG instead of going for a 4th down because Aguayo was so accurate.

 

His FG percentage went down every year at FSU though.  He was at 95.5% his freshman year but down to 90% in his sophomore year and 80% his final season.  So the writing should have been on the wall.

 

I was okay with the move at the time -- if you think he's your guy, get your guy -- but at least Licht owned the mistake and corrected it rather than stubbornly sticking by a high draft pick.

post #112 of 1026

Wasn't Aguayo working with a sports psychologist to get over his issues?

 

Maybe the atmosphere and the pressure of playing professionally just isn't for him.

post #113 of 1026

I think Jimbo even nailed it last year when he was having issues--when you're so good, you start looking at anything/everything you can to try to continue to improve. And sometimes you actually start screwing up what had worked previously thinking that you're "fixing" something that wasn't broken. And then you get lost in that and can't even get back to zero, so to speak. I think he's going to have to reset and go back to what worked for him. That kind of happened to Tiger Woods. He started trying to change his swing and then he's never been the same.

 

 

He should talk to Janikowski--who would probably say, "My advice to you, is to start drinking heavily."

post #114 of 1026
post #115 of 1026

I missed the Cardinals/Raiders game on Saturday. I don't have able, and I'm in a weird spot where my HD antenna doesn't get NBC.

 

But I hear our receivers have been shit in games and in practice, and Bruce Arians is pissed. My hopes for this season are very, very not hopes at all.

post #116 of 1026
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Allen Robinson is frustrated - https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/897491936449363970 


In other words, welcome to the age of social media. It's never as bad as one play seems and it's never as good as the next play seems.

post #117 of 1026

As a Browns fan, I understand your ability to be optimistic about the phrase "Not horrible."

 

However, Blake Bortles did not make the biggest QB mistake today. That would be Derek Carr - https://twitter.com/derekcarrqb/status/897533425401438209

 

post #118 of 1026
OH my god...
post #119 of 1026

No way it's real. No way. It's gotta be the next Football On Your Phone stunt or something.

 

post #120 of 1026
Well he does suddenly have a grotesque amount of disposable income available...
post #121 of 1026

I hope it turns out to be real and it's the freshest album this year.

 

But it's gotta be a gag.

post #122 of 1026
Thread Starter 

I sincerely hope all of you have found something much, much better to do than watch this crap on ESPN tonight.

 

Sadly it's what I have to look forward to in 2017.

post #123 of 1026
TCJ, I watched the first couple of series. I'm sorry.
post #124 of 1026
Thread Starter 

Bortles is done. In preseason game 2, he looked like a broken man out on the field tonight. Even if he starts some games this year (which he probably will because LOL Henne) there's no way he has a season worthy of his $19 mil option. As long as he doesn't get hurt, the Jags can cut him at the end of 2017 with no repercussions.

 

It's time for the Jaguars to do what they've never done before - sign a starting QB through free agency. Every starting QB they've ever had has been through draft or trade. They have a fuckton of cap room. Throw it all at Cousins or Garoppalo or whoever.

post #125 of 1026
It's Kaepernick time!
post #126 of 1026
Cutler looks ridiculous in the Miami uniform. The Bears color scheme almost worked in complimenting his attitude. Now he looks like a sad clown.
post #127 of 1026
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Bortles is done. In preseason game 2, he looked like a broken man out on the field tonight. Even if he starts some games this year (which he probably will because LOL Henne) there's no way he has a season worthy of his $19 mil option. As long as he doesn't get hurt, the Jags can cut him at the end of 2017 with no repercussions.

 

It's time for the Jaguars to do what they've never done before - sign a starting QB through free agency. Every starting QB they've ever had has been through draft or trade. They have a fuckton of cap room. Throw it all at Cousins or Garoppalo or whoever.

 

I'm so sorry the Jags are a burning diaper again.  The o-line actually wants every QB dead, don't they?

 

Tampa Bay looks like a big threat this year.

post #128 of 1026

After two episodes of Hard Knocks, I love Gerald McCoy.

post #129 of 1026
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After two episodes of Hard Knocks, I love Gerald McCoy.

I have HBOGO, but it takes some effort on my part to watch these episodes, are they worth it? 

post #130 of 1026
ODB with a sprained ankle after a low hit.

Why the hell was he even playing in a preseason game against the Browns?!
post #131 of 1026
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ODB with a sprained ankle after a low hit.

Why the hell was he even playing in a preseason game against the Browns?!
Not sweating that. He'll be fine. I'm more sweating the Giants season as a whole. I know it's preseason but they look like ass tonight, and still have zero run game.
post #132 of 1026
Ugh. Pre-season commentating and pre-season officiating. Why do I keep watching into the second half?
post #133 of 1026
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Ugh. Pre-season commentating and pre-season officiating. Why do I keep watching into the second half?

 

The second half of Sunday's Falcons game was nothing but promotion for the new stadium, punctuated with an occasional mention of the game being played.

post #134 of 1026

I got to listen to Rex Ryan's broadcasting tryout for a drive.  Ugh.

post #135 of 1026
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The second half of Sunday's Falcons game was nothing but promotion for the new stadium, punctuated with an occasional mention of the game being played.


The Jaguars' first preseason game was exactly the same way, except it was promoting the amphitheater, indoor practice facility, etc. So much so that they had a rendering of one of the buildings on the screen during a play, and when they switched away from it to the action, Keelan Cole was already at the 50 yard line running in a long TD pass.

 

Preseason games are just giant ads.

post #136 of 1026
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I got to listen to Rex Ryan's broadcasting tryout for a drive.  Ugh.

 

"Yeah, uh, I'm not rill comfortable doin' this without m'brother here and I'm rill hungry. The guy with the helmet just got the ball from the other guy and -- where the fuck are those ribs I ordered? He throws the ball to the other guy. Never really bothered to learn what that guy is called. He didn't catch it. That's what's s'posed to happen, right? I thought so. That's what always happened in Buffalo and New York, so I always figgered we were doin' good. Where the fuck are those ribs?"

post #137 of 1026

ESPN, if they haven't already, will hire him. They'll hire anyone. 

post #138 of 1026
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I got to listen to Rex Ryan's broadcasting tryout for a drive.  Ugh.


After we went to the FSU Spring Game, I came back home and watched it on ESPN3 and it was Rex Ryan's debut. Double ugh.

post #139 of 1026

The Deshone Kizer Era begins in Cleveland. I'm predicting Carson Wentz Part Deux: An exciting early season performance followed by the dregs for the rest of the year once defenses figure him out.

post #140 of 1026
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After we went to the FSU Spring Game, I came back home and watched it on ESPN3 and it was Rex Ryan's debut. Double ugh.

 

He was on Hard Knocks last night, when they showed the ESPN team doing pre-game prep with some of the Bucs players.  Sounded like a total goof.

post #141 of 1026
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The Deshone Kizer Era begins in Cleveland. I'm predicting Carson Wentz Part Deux: An exciting early season performance followed by the dregs for the rest of the year once defenses figure him out.

Very true. But when your other option is Brock Osweiler, you don't really have a choice.
post #142 of 1026

Brock Osweiler is truly not long for this league.

 

Should have checked his ego and stuck with Elway.

post #143 of 1026

I predict Kizer out after four or five games with either a knee injury or concussion.  Brock will come in and finish out their season with surprising results!  I kid.  He'll lead them to two wins tops.

post #144 of 1026

It's the Browns, do they ever know who their QB is going to be for more than five minutes?  

post #145 of 1026
Thread Starter 

Speaking of not knowing who your QB is...

 

Chad Henne starts tomorrow against the Panthers.

 

The weariness of being a Jaguars fan that usually sets in about week 10, now coming week three of preseason.

post #146 of 1026
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Speaking of not knowing who your QB is...

Chad Henne starts tomorrow against the Panthers.

The weariness of being a Jaguars fan that usually sets in about week 10, now coming week three of preseason.

At least there's DragonCon for a week or so.
post #147 of 1026
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At least there's DragonCon for a week or so.


True, except new job means I can't make it this year. 

 

It was the worst of times, it was the worst of times ...

post #148 of 1026
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True, except new job means I can't make it this year. 

 

It was the worst of times, it was the worst of times ...

 

Isn't DragonCon still co-owned by a child molester?

 

At least the Jags have that going for them.  They're not child molesters!  ...That we know of!  ...Go Jags!

post #149 of 1026
Thread Starter 

I guess you truly can find a silver lining in anything.

 

Anyhow, a great read about scouting in the NFL and all that's involved as we are barreling down to cut day. Much like the film business, I love reading about the ins and outs of the industry.

post #150 of 1026
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Isn't DragonCon still co-owned by a child molester?

 


A few years ago that guy finally took the buy out they'd been offering for the past decade+ after he ran out of money defending himself in court.

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