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post #151 of 1046
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A few years ago that guy finally took the buy out they'd been offering for the past decade+ after he ran out of money defending himself in court.

 

Hooray!  Since it seems like one of the better 'cons.

 

... Can the Jags buy themselves out?

post #152 of 1046
Pats believe Edelman suffered an ACL injury today. He'll have an MRI tomorrow.
post #153 of 1046

Confirmed, Edelman done for the year. Remind me again why preseaon games exist? 

 

Also, a guy with a 5-46 career record against teams with winning records just became the highest paid player in the NFL.......oh and ZERO playoff wins!

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2617446-matthew-stafford-lions-agree-on-contract-to-make-qb-highest-paid-player-in-nfl

post #154 of 1046
The Stafford thing baffles me, and I like Stafford.

It's incredible how out of control the salary arms race has become and how weak owners and GMs are in the face of it.

"Oh no! Our star QB is up for an extension! We must make him the highest paid player ever, or we'll lose him! Never mind that he's a QB with a losing record because his only receiver worth a damn retired in no small part because we suck so bad, we have no other receivers to speak of, and our running game runs backwards half the time!"

Say what you want about Belichick (because most, if not all of it, is true) but there's a reason why his notorious frugality when it comes to paying talent and his success go hand in hand.
post #155 of 1046
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Say what you want about Belichick (because most, if not all of it, is true) but there's a reason why his notorious frugality when it comes to paying talent and his success go hand in hand.

 

He's frugal because he's got a once-in-a-generation QB who also understands he doesn't have to be the highest paid player in the NFL.

 

Tom Brady makes up for a LOT.

post #156 of 1046
True. But he also had no qualms about cutting loose (again) a Running Back who scored 18 touchdowns last season, or a great OLB like Chandler Jones just before he was set to command a high asking price.

But you're right. Say what you will about Brady, but I respect that even with his incredibly financially secure lifestyle thanks to his wife, he could demand ridiculous fucking money and someone would give it to him in a heartbeat. And he chooses New England and winning.
post #157 of 1046

Brady is great, but Belichick is pretty great, too. I think they both come out better because of the Cassel season. Brady takes Belichick over the top, but the Pats going 11-5 with a stack of balsa wood at QB shows how good Belichick is. 

 

Looks like Deshone Kizer will be starter barring a sudden knee explosion, which is entirely possible. In a perfect world, every time he was sacked the broadcaster would say "THE KIZER HAS BEEN ASSASSINATED!", but I'm guessing that's out of the question in these times.

post #158 of 1046
Stolen from Twittee

These 11 QBs are confirmed/ possible Wk 1 starters: Bortles, Tolzien, Peterman, Goff, Savage, McCown, Glennon, Cutler, Kizer, Siemian, Hoyer

Taking this into consideration, it makes sense Stafford (or Carr or Luck) get these huge contracts. They may not win you a Super Bowl on their own, but they are consistent, above average starters in a league where there aren't many of those. If the Lions didn't pay Stafford, some other team would.
post #159 of 1046
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Stolen from Twittee

These 11 QBs are confirmed/ possible Wk 1 starters: Bortles, Tolzien, Peterman, Goff, Savage, McCown, Glennon, Cutler, Kizer, Siemian, Hoyer

Taking this into consideration, it makes sense Stafford (or Carr or Luck) get these huge contracts. They may not win you a Super Bowl on their own, but they are consistent, above average starters in a league where there aren't many of those. If the Lions didn't pay Stafford, some other team would.

I'm shocked that half those names are still in the league.
post #160 of 1046
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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

Brady is great, but Belichick is pretty great, too. I think they both come out better because of the Cassel season. Brady takes Belichick over the top, but the Pats going 11-5 with a stack of balsa wood at QB shows how good Belichick is. 

 

Looks like Deshone Kizer will be starter barring a sudden knee explosion, which is entirely possible. In a perfect world, every time he was sacked the broadcaster would say "THE KIZER HAS BEEN ASSASSINATED!", but I'm guessing that's out of the question in these times.


Or usher in a whole new set of references of the QB to kaiser bread. "Ooo, a little mustard got put on the Kizer by the defense."

post #161 of 1046

And speaking of "elite" QBs in the league, on NFL Radio yesterday, they were discussing the Drew Brees situation in New Orleans. Apparently they can't franchise him anymore and if they don't want to pay him, he will become a FA. The Redskins was one of the teams they mentioned would probably be willing to sign him (and drop Cousins) to try and get that 2-3 year run, similar to how the Vikings did with Favre.

post #162 of 1046
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Originally Posted by Martianman View Post

And speaking of "elite" QBs in the league, on NFL Radio yesterday, they were discussing the Drew Brees situation in New Orleans. Apparently they can't franchise him anymore and if they don't want to pay him, he will become a FA. The Redskins was one of the teams they mentioned would probably be willing to sign him (and drop Cousins) to try and get that 2-3 year run, similar to how the Vikings did with Favre.
Brees isn't going anywhere. Every national pundit has been salivating about getting Brees out of New Orleans and into a bigger market for the last 6 years basically non-stop. The Saints have the cap money to pay him and everyone involved knows without him the Saints have no team.

The ONLY caveat to this is if the team tanks enough to fire Sean Payton. If that happens, the Saints basically aren't the same team anyway and all bets are off. I wouldn't blame him for moving on in that case.
post #163 of 1046
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Originally Posted by Martianman View Post

And speaking of "elite" QBs in the league, on NFL Radio yesterday, they were discussing the Drew Brees situation in New Orleans. Apparently they can't franchise him anymore and if they don't want to pay him, he will become a FA. The Redskins was one of the teams they mentioned would probably be willing to sign him (and drop Cousins) to try and get that 2-3 year run, similar to how the Vikings did with Favre.
The only problem with that is the Vikings had ONE good year with Favre.
post #164 of 1046

Drew Magary's "Why Your Team Sucks" series on Deadspin continues with the Chiefs today. However, all of his Alex Smith jokes pale in comparison to what a reader sent to him on Twitter:

 

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 Drew should have included this Alex Smith gif throwing a dodgeball at the Pro Bowl last year.



I've been chuckling for the last 10 minutes.

post #165 of 1046

Jets, in full tank mode, just traded Sheldon Richardson to the Seahawks.

 

Just fucking kill me.

post #166 of 1046

Quitting before the season. Damn. At least the Browns try for a week or two.

 

Speaking of, Osweiler was cut. Browns are on the hook for $16 million, but Brock is so bad they still thought cutting him was worth it.

post #167 of 1046
Shame to lose Kearse, but we know what his ceiling was.

The season's not over until it's over. Aside from the Jets and Browns, anything is possible for any team in this league.

Oh, except the Patriots also. I think we all know how they'll do.
post #168 of 1046

Willie Snead suspended 3 games for an offseason DUI.  Our first three games are @ Vikings, Patriots, and @ Panthers.  Not a great stretch of games to miss, especially in a contract year.

post #169 of 1046
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Quitting before the season. Damn. At least the Browns try for a week or two.

 

Speaking of, Osweiler was cut. Browns are on the hook for $16 million, but Brock is so bad they still thought cutting him was worth it.

 

Our offensive line is already looking like butthole. Palmer got hit 40-something times last year. Having to deal with Richardson twice this year is going to add to that number.

 

The Jets gave up Richardson for Jermane Kearse. Basically a song. When stuff like this happens - when a team is basically having a fire sale to tank - I don't know why GMs that have a reputation for being aggressive like Steve Keim don't make a move.

 

We've been incredibly conservative this off-season, and none of our problem areas have been addressed. This is basically the last year we've got to make shit happen before we have to rebuild, so why not go all-in and worry about things after we've finally gotten a Super Bowl for the first time ever.

post #170 of 1046

So a few years ago it was, "Suck for Luck" what's the saying going to be for next years draft? 

 

Be Awful for Darnold...? 

 

Stink it up for Rosen...? 

 

I don't know.... 

post #171 of 1046

Don't give a damn, for Sam?

 

Implosion for Rosen?

 

Clowning for Browning?

post #172 of 1046

Those are all great! 

post #173 of 1046
So the Jets, Bills, and 49ers are the only ones tanking for a QB, correct? With the Bears/Browns going to suck heavily. Unfortunately tanking in the NFL doesn't equal success like the other leagues. Ask the Jags.

So Brock back to the Broncos?
post #174 of 1046
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So Brock back to the Broncos?

 

Back to sippin' Coors Light by the pool, I would surmise. 

post #175 of 1046
He's the perfect tanking back up qb as well.
post #176 of 1046
Off to sitting at a table next to Johnny Football signing autographs at conventions and titty bars.
post #177 of 1046

Oh, and in this article on the Ringer, Jake Plummer vaulted onto my list of "Stickin' it to THE MAN" heroes....

 

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/8/30/16224226/quarterback-succession-plans-mitchell-trubisky-mike-glennon


 

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Denver, meanwhile, started the 2006 season 7-2 with Plummer under center, but following a 35-27 loss to the Chargers in Week 11—in which Plummer went 13-of-28 passing for 183 yards with an interception—the rumblings about a switch started to intensify. After the Broncos scored only 10 points in a Thanksgiving defeat to the Chiefs, Plummer was called into Shanahan’s office and told he was being relieved. “The seeds that were planted right after the draft, those are the ones that are tough,” Plummer says. “Because those grow, and they’re fed by people in the building. Those articles get out there, and the fans start feeling like they know everything going on. Every incomplete pass [was] like, ‘Ah, Jay Cutler would have completed that.’”


He doesn’t blame Cutler. It wasn’t his decision. But where some of these quarterback transitions, from Palmer supplanting Kitna to Locker taking over for Hasselbeck, unfolded naturally, this one showed what can happen when the groundswell that comes with drafting a first-round quarterback takes over. “The situation wasn’t pretty,” Plummer says. “It wasn’t a good way to end my career. But I had a lot of fun those last five weeks being the backup and just kind of enjoying what I did.”Plummer used the final month of that season to soak in the quieter moments of life as an NFL quarterback. He saw it as a chance to eat actual meals before games again, and during pregame warmups he would play “football golf” with practice squad quarterback Preston Parsons, kicking the ball toward a target and counting the strokes. On Saturday nights, he’d dig into the beers left out in the hotel for coaches. “I’d sit there and have three or four pops,” Plummer says. “Guys were pissed off at me. I’d be drinking beers, and they were just like, ‘You suck, man.’ Well, they benched me. It wasn’t my decision, so I’m having a Bud Light.

post #178 of 1046

Maybe Osweiller only plays well at high elevations. Like he needs to be at least 5000 feet or more above sea level to play somewhat decent. 

post #179 of 1046
People on Twitter with the little blue checkmark next to their names are saying Osweiler back to Denver is happening. Just... come the fuck on.

This is like the kid who doesn't want to eat his vegetables so he runs away from home, but mom and dad know he's just in the treehouse. And when he comes in for breakfast all shivering, there's a fucking new Playstation waiting for him on the table.
post #180 of 1046
Cleveland: "Check our shitty new branding!"

Seattle: "Hold my beer."

post #181 of 1046
That's....not great.
post #182 of 1046

It looks like two angry birds staring at each other.

post #183 of 1046
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Is that the picture where if you look at it one way it's a young woman and if you look at it another way it's an old woman?

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post #185 of 1046

Bucs/Dolphins is officially moved to Week 11, eliminating the bye week for both teams.  Well, moving it to Week 1, but still.  But as much as I hate the disadvantage it gives us, it was the right move.  Miami is on full alert, so it'd be pretty irresponsible to pull police away for a football game on Thursday or Friday.  There's no telling what shape Miami will be in come Monday, so Monday night was no guarantee.  There were neutral site options, but then you were asking players and staffs to leave behind family and property in the face of a Category 5 hurricane, with the possibility of not being able to fly back to Miami and Tampa afterward.  Which would put preparation for their Week 2 games in a bind.  So yeah, the date change was probably the only reasonable move.

post #186 of 1046

Draft Kings is supposedly giving away a billion dollars for picking the perfect fantasy lineup in week one.  I wonder if eliminating an entire game's worth of possibilities changes the odds significantly enough to cause some panic?

post #187 of 1046

Myles Garrett out at least 2 weeks with a high ankle sprain. Bleh.

post #188 of 1046
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Draft Kings is supposedly giving away a billion dollars for picking the perfect fantasy lineup in week one.  I wonder if eliminating an entire game's worth of possibilities changes the odds significantly enough to cause some panic?


No. Let's say you somehow predict correctly the skill positions (QB, WR, TE, RB), which you should have at least a decent idea of. Picking the correct K and DEF is a lottery week to week. They're the most unpredictable positions in fantasy because they have rules that run contrary to "normal" football. Your kicker's opportunities are all dependent on the rest of the offense being good enough to get into FG range but not good enough to score TDs. And a good regular defense is never a good fantasy defense because good defenses limit the # of plays the other team has, so you have less opportunities for the big scoring DEF plays - turnover TDs.

 

Also, fuck Irma.

post #189 of 1046

Magary's trashing of the Patriots is pretty glorious:

 

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 Aaron Hernandez got his conviction voided by killing himself. That was like the Tuck Rule of murder.
post #190 of 1046
It sucks that the Patriots are basically a lock for the SB again. Maybe an extreme weather game in the playoffs may stop them. Just don't see Oakland being ready and there isn't an elite defense in the Conf. Maybe Denver but that's negated by horrible QB play.

NFC will at least be competitive.
post #191 of 1046
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
 

Bucs/Dolphins is officially moved to Week 11, eliminating the bye week for both teams.  Well, moving it to Week 1, but still.  But as much as I hate the disadvantage it gives us, it was the right move.  Miami is on full alert, so it'd be pretty irresponsible to pull police away for a football game on Thursday or Friday.  There's no telling what shape Miami will be in come Monday, so Monday night was no guarantee.  There were neutral site options, but then you were asking players and staffs to leave behind family and property in the face of a Category 5 hurricane, with the possibility of not being able to fly back to Miami and Tampa afterward.  Which would put preparation for their Week 2 games in a bind.  So yeah, the date change was probably the only reasonable move.

 

Be safe, Richard!  Isn't Reasor in Florida too?  Hope you're all able to stay safe!

 

The new Seahaks logo is barf., 

post #192 of 1046

Oh, you need some picks?

 

Oh, that's not enough, and you want a weekly video filled with charm and incredible production value? Damn, you're some needy motherfuckers. But I love you, so...

 

YOU GET THAT TOO! Spread the word!

post #193 of 1046
Pats run out on the field. Brady not wearing a helmet.
My Wife: "I hope Brady''s not wearing his helmet because someone is jacking off into it."
I love my wife.

Also that Mark Wahlberg telling of the last Super Bowel made me want to eat a bullet.
post #194 of 1046
Not 5 min in and the Pats fans are annoying. Not a bad call in the game yet.

Also Mark Wahlbeg is the worst.
post #195 of 1046

Just give me a competitive game please. Last thing I want is for this game to over by halftime. 

post #196 of 1046
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Just give me a competitive game please. Last thing I want is for this game to over by halftime. 

I think you've gotten that.

 

KC running the read-option to perfection with two clock-annihilating TD drives.

post #197 of 1046
Hunt is going to have a monster season.
post #198 of 1046
My man!
post #199 of 1046
The story will break tomorrow morning that the Chiefs were found tied and gagged in their locker room, and who actually took the field tonight was a disgruntled Falcons squad out for revenge.
post #200 of 1046

What will also break is everyone asking, "Is this the beginning of the end of the Brady/Belickeck Era??? 

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