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post #601 of 860
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Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
 

Don't blame the officials.  Blame the owners.  Owners are the ones who create the rules.  The officials are the ones enforcing them.  Players follow the rules the owners create, you won't see as many flags.  

True. All of these rules are put in place so owners can avoid litigation.

post #602 of 860

Full disclosure, I did a couple years officiating Jr. High and High School football, and have a former NFL/current Pac 12 official in the family (stepfather), so I'm slightly biased to the officials side of things.

post #603 of 860

Week 7 picks! Still in text form, since now I was out of town in New Orleans.

 

But Alex and Page kicked ass on formatting the column, and it's still a good one. And it actually went up before today, but I came back with the flu. Yay.

post #604 of 860
Called it: Lynch suspended for one game. He's going to appeal, though.
post #605 of 860
Not sure he has a case. It's pretty clear that he shoved a official.
post #606 of 860
Thread Starter 
But will he show up to his appeal? That’s the true question.
post #607 of 860
Appealing is pretty much the default. Doesn't matter how guilty the player may be - if there's a small chance of not missing a game, it's preferable to simply accepting the (deserved) punishment.
post #608 of 860

Leaving the bench is an automatic 1-game suspension. He'll be lucky if his appeal doesn't end in a 2-game suspension.

post #609 of 860
Lynch has been a non factor for the Raiders, Thursday’s game was proof, they should just cut him
post #610 of 860
Free ticket to tomorrow's Packer game. Woot woot!
post #611 of 860
Luckyyyyy!
post #612 of 860
I just heard a commentator say "Bortles is on fire!" That is a sentence I never thought I would hear, outside of Bortles being literally on fire. Like "Bortles is on fire. Maybe someone should grab a fire extinguisher?"

Also finally realized they dropped wearing pink in October for breast cancer awareness because all cancer matters.
post #613 of 860
Hey guys! The Cardinals are garbage again! Hurray!
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Seats don't suck
post #615 of 860
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Originally Posted by Devildoubt View Post

Hey guys! The Cardinals are garbage again! Hurray!

Because they're not playing the Bucs this week.
post #616 of 860

Carson Palmer broke his arm. Early (late) retirement for him.

 

Bruce Arians - being the stubborn fuck he is - says Drew Stanton is the starter. I'm all in on the Broncos for the rest of the season.

post #617 of 860
Thread Starter 

An odd week so of course the Jags win. And next week is a bye week so I don't know how that will mess up the formula.

 

Also, Dallas' kicker is hurt, so a safety just booted through an XP. Sure it hit the upright, but that baby still counts.

post #618 of 860

I wonder how Jeff Fisher is feeling these days. Rams look like one of the best teams in the NFC and they are essentially the same team they were last year; other than a whole new coaching staff (they did keep the ST coach John Fossil). I'm not saying the Rams are going to the SB but they at least look to have a very bright future, which is more than we can say of a lot teams. 

post #619 of 860

Well, that's one game GB could've won with just average QB play.

 

I wonder how many teams we could tally up those games for at the end of the season and find they'd have made the playoffs?

post #620 of 860

These late games, other than maybe the Seattle/NYG, have been mostly shitty. I decided to go and check out Halloween Wars on Food Network, pretty cool. Anyone watch? 

post #621 of 860

I wonder if Carson Palmer and Aaron Rodgers will get together on Sundays and play Madden whilst they rehab.

post #622 of 860
Taking a knee is the dumbest thing about football. In hockey, if the other team is losing and they pull their goalie, you don't give up and say good game - you shoot that open net. In basketball, you don't sit down on the court at the minute mark and wait for the clock.

Two minutes left is more than enough time to make another statement and score another touchdown. Fucking do it.
post #623 of 860
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Originally Posted by D.T. View Post

Taking a knee is the dumbest thing about football. In hockey, if the other team is losing and they pull their goalie, you don't give up and say good game - you shoot that open net. In basketball, you don't sit down on the court at the minute mark and wait for the clock.

Two minutes left is more than enough time to make another statement and score another touchdown. Fucking do it.
And if you fumble or throw a pick while trying to do that, you’d be run out of town.

And teams do run down the shot clock in basketball at the end of the game.
post #624 of 860
Them's the breaks, then. Play the game until the clock runs out, whatever the outcome. Taking a knee is a lame unwritten rule. As if to say either "We're tired of beating you," or "We're scared of you getting the ball back so we're keeping it."

I fucking loved it when - what was it, 2012 or 13? - the Buccaneers defense jumped not one but two victory formations. They did it to the Giants and Tom Coughlin about shit himself.

Play the damn game. There's too many stops, penalties and formalities to end the game two minutes early.
post #625 of 860
You sound like somebody who needed more fantasy points, DT.
post #626 of 860
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Originally Posted by D.T. View Post

Them's the breaks, then. Play the game until the clock runs out, whatever the outcome. Taking a knee is a lame unwritten rule. As if to say either "We're tired of beating you," or "We're scared of you getting the ball back so we're keeping it."

I fucking loved it when - what was it, 2012 or 13? - the Buccaneers defense jumped not one but two victory formations. They did it to the Giants and Tom Coughlin about shit himself.

Play the damn game. There's too many stops, penalties and formalities to end the game two minutes early.

post #627 of 860
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post

You sound like somebody who needed more fantasy points, DT.

Nah, I'm first place in my league. I've just always hated the victory formation.
post #628 of 860
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Originally Posted by D.T. View Post

Play the damn game. There's too many stops, penalties and formalities to end the game two minutes early.

 

Why risk potential injuries to players just to run up the score or prove a point? It's a hard-fought game, I'm sure both teams are more than happy to call it a day.

post #629 of 860

I don't mind the victory formation.  By that time in a game, if one team has a good lead, I'm about ready for the game to end anyways.

post #630 of 860

Every tean has done it at some point. So all players will be on both ends of it, so to speak. I don't think most teams care, "Were exhausted, so let's just end this" is probably what most are thinking. 

post #631 of 860

So Cam Newton's being douchey yet again . . . I don't care that much, but at least it led to this tweet, which made me do that chef kiss-the-fingers thing - https://twitter.com/RobertKlemko/status/923560507369340931

post #632 of 860
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Originally Posted by D.T. View Post

Them's the breaks, then. Play the game until the clock runs out, whatever the outcome. Taking a knee is a lame unwritten rule. As if to say either "We're tired of beating you," or "We're scared of you getting the ball back so we're keeping it."

I fucking loved it when - what was it, 2012 or 13? - the Buccaneers defense jumped not one but two victory formations. They did it to the Giants and Tom Coughlin about shit himself.

Play the damn game. There's too many stops, penalties and formalities to end the game two minutes early.

 

Yeah, and in both the games, the Bucs were down by a touchdown or less.  It wasn't a case where they were getting killed and it made no sense to play things out.  A turnover would have made a difference.

post #633 of 860

Weird congruence.  Drew Magary says he got kicked off of AICN back in the day:

 

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Speaking of Harry Knowles, I gotta tell you that I was once banned from the Ain’t It Cool News comments section a million years ago for basically saying that Knowles was an insufferable shithead. If you’re unfamiliar with Knowles, consider yourself lucky. Back in the day, AICN was the preeminent geek site. Knowles would report directly from the set of the Lord of the Rings (Peter Jackson even paid for his hotel) and serve essentially as the franchise’s hype man. He’d write ENDLESS, gushing reviews of pretty much everything, all of which invariably included a 5,000-word prologue about how he got to the theater, followed by 5,000 more words of name-dropping. He guested on Ebert & Roeper. Rainn Wilson played his doppelganger on Entourage, his character begging for freebies and screaming out gay slurs at Adrian Grenier. He was genuinely insufferable, and now it turns out he was a predatory shitbag to boot.
post #634 of 860

So you're telling me that a guy who wrote a review for Blade 2 describing in detail how much the Reapers looked like vaginas, and in another article graphically described having sex with an Asian woman on a hotel bathroom floor is a pervert with a warped sense of sexuality and no respect for women?

 

You're fuckin' kidding me.

post #635 of 860

In other news, I kind of love how the Steelers are treating the Martavis Bryant situation.

 

Don't give him the trade he wants and let that talent run off to another team. Demote him to the scout squad for practices, and bench his ass. Freeze him out until his attitude changes.

post #636 of 860

Whoa, Flacco got thumped.

post #637 of 860
He was on another planet. I'd be shocked if he's not put in the protocol.
post #638 of 860

Now, tonight's TNF game is safe to label as "Bad" or downright "Shitty". I watched all of 3 minutes of it, and changed the station. Overall, most of the TNF games have been pretty to good to great, we'll see next week with Jets v. Bills, AFC East matchup should be good. 

 

Start the Ryan Mallett to GReen Bay rumors. 

post #639 of 860

So, I'm a mod on the Cardinals site on Reddit (deets327), and I do the design work.

 

After we were blown out by the Rams on Sunday, the community rather spontaneously all said "Fuck it, now we're a bird watching community instead". It's gone viral. ESPN and NFL have done stories on it, and the local AZ news has reached out and wants to do an interview with someone.

 

Yeah... some stupid shit I did ended up on fucking NFL.com. I'm the mastermind behind the dummy bird watcher in the woods graphic.

post #640 of 860
Ha! They even made a point to show off your graphic. I love it!

Still, rough year for Arizona sports. The article made mention that Coyote fans are now talking about wild coyotes and not the winless NHL team.
post #641 of 860

Anyway, here's a new video (finally).

post #642 of 860
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Originally Posted by D.T. View Post
 

So, I'm a mod on the Cardinals site on Reddit (deets327), and I do the design work.

 

After we were blown out by the Rams on Sunday, the community rather spontaneously all said "Fuck it, now we're a bird watching community instead". It's gone viral. ESPN and NFL have done stories on it, and the local AZ news has reached out and wants to do an interview with someone.

 

Yeah... some stupid shit I did ended up on fucking NFL.com. I'm the mastermind behind the dummy bird watcher in the woods graphic.

 

I hope this results in at least a few people getting heavy into birdwatching.

 


Either way, fucking legendary.

post #643 of 860

"Can't have the inmates running the prison."

Dude...

post #644 of 860
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Originally Posted by Zhukov View Post
 

"Can't have the inmates running the prison."

Dude...

Apparently Texans players had to be talked out of walking out on practice today.

 

Mcnair just said what the owners genuinely believe. We knew this, but it's nice to see it verified.

post #645 of 860

Listening to WIll Cain try to justify this on ESPN, I want to throw something through my screen.  McNair literally could have used ANY other analogy- including the correct version of it, and it wouldn't have been as bad.  It's not just unfortunate phrasing, or about the management vs. labor culture that exist elsewhere in society.  It's about a bunch of rich old white dudes "owning the rights to" a bunch of athletic young black dudes.  The plantation mentality is in full effect.  I hope there's a full on revolt in the NFL.  Fuck these owners.

post #646 of 860

If he had been the owner of the Bengals, he could have said "We can't have the nuts running the asylum", and no one would have thought twice.

post #647 of 860
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Originally Posted by Bailey View Post

Listening to WIll Cain try to justify this on ESPN, I want to throw something through my screen.  McNair literally could have used ANY other analogy- including the correct version of it, and it wouldn't have been as bad.  It's not just unfortunate phrasing, or about the management vs. labor culture that exist elsewhere in society.  It's about a bunch of rich old white dudes "owning the rights to" a bunch of athletic young black dudes.  The plantation mentality is in full effect.  I hope there's a full on revolt in the NFL.  Fuck these owners.
Anytime I see Will Cain I have to flip the channel. I didn’t think it was possible to have a person more annoying than Smith and Bayless. If Fox News ever gets a sports section he’d run it.

Inmates running the prison isn’t a thing. How do you fuck that up? If he says asylum nobody says boo. Kudos to Hopkins for walking out for his team. But I really don’t understand why there aren’t any white players of note taking a knee. I wish guys like Brees, Brady, Manning, Rodgers would step the fuck up. The owners would shit a brick if white guys who they can’t cut started this.
post #648 of 860
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel View Post


Inmates running the prison isn’t a thing. How do you fuck that up? 


Just spitballing here, but I think it might have something to do with racism?

post #649 of 860
Funny thing, Michael Wilbon on PTI just talked about this a week ago and he us d the exact words, “Plantation mentality.”

I think I might become a Steelers or Giants fan. Aren’t their owners pretty progressive Democrats. Or were at least Obama supporters?
post #650 of 860
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Originally Posted by History Buff View Post

Funny thing, Michael Wilbon on PTI just talked about this a week ago and he us d the exact words, “Plantation mentality.”
 

 

I heard Wilbon on Kornheiser's podcast use the phrase too.  I'm sure plenty of others had made that connection as well.  I wasn't trying to pull a Trump, honestly.

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