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TOP GUN II Pre-Release Thread - Playing With The Boys in the Dangerzone once again

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Thread Starter 
As anyone with any taste knows, beloved James Tolkan vehicle TOP GUN is a legit cinema classic that deserves a solid place in any discerning film fan's Top 10 of all time. And now, FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINALLY, this ...

http://variety.com/2017/film/asia/top-gun-2-tom-cruise-sequel-1202442770/


Cruise wants his pal Joseph Kosinski to direct.

Val Kilmer was Tom "Iceman" Kazanski in the original. Coincidence? I'll let you be the judge.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/joseph-kosinski-top-gun-2-starring-tom-cruise-1202437529/


Naturally our main man Val feels the need for speed.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/25/entertainment/val-kilmer-top-gun-2/


I've contacted Barry Tubb for his response to the news but his people have not yet gotten back to me as of this posting.
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How desperate is Cruise at this point?

post #3 of 51
They better bring Merlin back.
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hahaha kosinski
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Chatting about this yesterday. Was telling my friend how the only black guy in Top Gun had the call sign "Sundown" and because it was the 80s no one batted an eyelid.
post #6 of 51
At least it wasn't "Jet Black".

Not that I wouldn't totally watch a blaxploitation film about a fighter pilot with that name.
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They'll probably try to get US military on board, which means this will feature heavy hype for their shitty F35-superfighter.
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Counter-fuddyduddying: I'll be Bucho's wingman and say this has potential to turn out great. There hasn't been a modern aerial war film for a long time, and no I don't count STEALTH or ID: RESURGENCE. I just hope they cast Kilmer but ditch Kosinski and rather replace Tony Scott with someone who's preferably a younger sibling of another successful director. Like Jonathan Nolan, Zeke Snyder or Michaela Bay.
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Christ not Bay. Peter Berg was born to make this movie.
post #10 of 51
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Christ not Bay. Peter Berg was born to make this movie.

 

Berg = Bay 2.0

 

I really liked 'The Kingdom'....solid action film...but Berg's become a hacky dir.

post #11 of 51

If they can find a way to keep most of the aerial stuff done for real, I could get behind this.  That feels like the kind of thing Cruise would try to push for.

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Berg = Bay 2.0

I really liked 'The Kingdom'....solid action film...but Berg's become a hacky dir.

No. Have you seen DEEPWATER HORIZON or PATRIOTS DAY? Neither movie is the work of a hack.
post #13 of 51
Half the fun of the original was seeing real fighter jets in action.

Chances are they'll go cgi for a huge portion of this now, so where's the real excitement or hook if they go that route?

Remember the real hidden MVP of the Indy films was the live action in-camera stunts, the for KotCS they cgi-ed all of that and it was lifeless.
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No. Have you seen DEEPWATER HORIZON or PATRIOTS DAY? Neither movie is the work of a hack.

 

I include the content of said movies when I use the term 'hacky'.

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Naturally our main man Val feels the need for speed.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/25/entertainment/val-kilmer-top-gun-2/

 

Is he still fat?  He'll need plenty of speed to get back in shape for this.

 

Is the conceit of the movie that now Maverick is the instructor and he's got a class full of female pilots and one of them takes advantage of him?

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No, he seems to have shed the excess weight through judicious application of cancer.

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Is this cancer available over the counter?

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Yes...

 

 

 

 

post #19 of 51
Holy fuck. Glad he beat it. I was about to snarkily post this photo:
post #20 of 51
Thread Starter 
Maybe they'll Creed it up. Have Goose's kid be an up-and-coming beach volleyball star that Mav has to mentor into shape.
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Maybe they'll Creed it up. Have Goose's kid be an up-and-coming beach volleyball star that Mav has to mentor into shape.

 

Yes! The whole movie is a repeat of the first movie, only all the dogfights are replaced with volleyball games.  But where the original had a random volleyball game, this one has a random dogfight set to Playing with the Boys.  And nowhere in the movie do they give any indication these guys are fighter pilots, just suddenly, bam(!), dogfight interlude before jumping back into more volleyball.

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Yes! The whole movie is a repeat of the first movie, only all the dogfights are replaced with volleyball games.  But where the original had a random volleyball game, this one has a random dogfight set to Playing with the Boys.  And nowhere in the movie do they give any indication these guys are fighter pilots, just suddenly, bam(!), dogfight interlude before jumping back into more volleyball.

Brad would probably go see that.
post #23 of 51
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They'll probably try to get US military on board, which means this will feature heavy hype for their shitty F35-superfighter.

NAVY version of the F-35B won't be ready in time to incorporate into filming, so I'm guessing Super Hornets are the ones getting the love this time.
post #24 of 51
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Half the fun of the original was seeing real fighter jets in action.

Chances are they'll go cgi for a huge portion of this now, so where's the real excitement or hook if they go that route?

Remember the real hidden MVP of the Indy films was the live action in-camera stunts, the for KotCS they cgi-ed all of that and it was lifeless.
If they go STEALTH on this and don't have real jets doing real maneuvers then I won't even see it.

Weren't we JUST saying in another thread how Iron Eagle is the superior aviation-themed film series?

Specifically Iron Eagle 2 - you could just reshoot that script with a giant budget and it would be fucking legendary.
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I'd rather watch this again than a Top Gun sequel.

 

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If they go STEALTH on this and don't have real jets doing real maneuvers then I won't even see it.

Weren't we JUST saying in another thread how Iron Eagle is the superior aviation-themed film series?

Specifically Iron Eagle 2 - you could just reshoot that script with a giant budget and it would be fucking legendary.

 

I've only seen Iron Eagle but if that is any indiciation, I simply refuse to believe any of them is individually as good as Top Gun on any level, even accounting for Lou Gossett Jr. 

 

Also, if you're looking for a big budget Iron Eagle 2, then going by the wikipedia summary of the final battle

 

"For the mission, the F-16 units are to fire their missiles at the compound through the ventilation shafts while the MiGs provide high-altitude cover against enemy aircraft"

 

you've got one and it's called Star Wars.

post #27 of 51
This could also be a good opportunity for Cruise to play an older character, something he did a few times last decade, instead of being stuck playing himself: the immortal awesome superhero.
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Will they team him up with a younger protege ala Blade Runer 2049?
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I've only seen Iron Eagle but if that is any indiciation, I simply refuse to believe any of them is individually as good as Top Gun on any level, even accounting for Lou Gossett Jr. 

Also, if you're looking for a big budget Iron Eagle 2, then going by the wikipedia summary of the final battle

"For the mission, the F-16 units are to fire their missiles at the compound through the ventilation shafts while the MiGs provide high-altitude cover against enemy aircraft"

you've got one and it's called Star Wars.

Hahaha I can't believe I never thought of the trench run/vent port parallel before.

The main story about Russia and USA putting together a joint strike force at the height of the Cold War is the meat n potatoes of the story that would do gangbusters with a bigger budget and the aerial photography that would buy.
post #30 of 51
Cruise has revealed the official title:

TOP GUN: MAVERICK

Also, Harold - F'n A - Faltermeyer will deliver the score and tonally it will be in line with the first one. Having just re-watched it, I hope they tone down the 'sweaty face extreme close-up' department.
post #31 of 51

So this movie is gonna be Maverick caring for an invalid Iceman as they travel through a country where all the hot shot fighter pilots have gone? 

post #32 of 51
If this doesn't have the son of Goose as the young upstart who Mav has to take under his wing while they both come to terms with Mav's role in Goose's death I'll eat my hat*


* I don't own a hat.
post #33 of 51

Oh hell yes to Harold Faltermeyer returning.  HELL YES.

post #34 of 51
The fact that they're getting Harold Faltermeyer back for a freaking Top Gun sequel makes Blade Runner 2049's lack of Vangelis even more of a travesty.
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If this doesn't have the son of Goose as the young upstart who Mav has to take under his wing while they both come to terms with Mav's role in Goose's death I'll eat my hat*


* I don't own a hat.

CREED GUN!!
post #36 of 51

Is it wrong to hope that when we catch up with good old Maverick 30 years later he looks like this?

 

post #37 of 51
Antoine Fuqua will be directing this before all is said and done. But yeah it really should be Peter Berg..
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Is it wrong to hope that when we catch up with good old Maverick 30 years later he looks like this?



Only 4 years older and a roadie for Foghat? Could work I guess.

I was thinking more along the lines of ...

post #39 of 51

 

I think about this picture a lot.  I'm probably gonna drop 30 lbs before this movie comes out.

post #40 of 51

Can't wait to see the heat between these two on screen again!

 

Cue: Take My Breath Away

 

post #41 of 51
Pictures like that freak me the fuck out..
post #42 of 51

Cruise really is Lestat.

post #43 of 51
Man, the portrait in his closet must look like the Crypt Keeper.
post #44 of 51
Yeah....why isn't he Dorian Gray in this new, soon to be short lived (though I hope it turns out good cuz...why not?) Dark Universe?
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post #46 of 51
Thread Starter 
Then it's time to start dreamcasting the hotshots.

Emma Stone and/or Brie Larson obviously. John Boyega should be one of the flyboys, since he should be in everything. Either Michael Cera or Jonah Hill (in slim mode) in a goofy goose role. Michael B Jordan as a pilot who has to live up to his old man's rep. Ansel Elgort as a Baby Pilot. Zac Efron as RIO who takes his shirt off a lot.

I think that's all the youngactors I know.

Oh, and if James Tolkan is fully retired then JK Simmons as a coffee-spilling base commander, since he should also be in everything.
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Oh. Now I feel really bad. Probably should have done a little research. Val's not looking good these days.
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Then it's time to start dreamcasting the hotshots.

Emma Stone and/or Brie Larson obviously. John Boyega should be one of the flyboys, since he should be in everything. Either Michael Cera or Jonah Hill (in slim mode) in a goofy goose role. Michael B Jordan as a pilot who has to live up to his old man's rep. Ansel Elgort as a Baby Pilot. Zac Efron as RIO who takes his shirt off a lot.

I think that's all the youngactors I know.

 

You gotta have Anna Kendrick in there as the quirky cute air traffic controller and The Rock as some kind of high-ranking officer that everyone thinks is a dick but actually has a heart of gold and we learn that he's a single father to a little girl because his wife was killed by terrorism.

 

Actually, fuck Top Gun II -- let's write our own jet plane action fight movie and rake in the millions.

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Actually, fuck Top Gun II -- let's write our own jet plane action fight movie and rake in the millions.

 

Because STEALTH worked out so well.

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