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post #101 of 124
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson View Post
 

Why can I see them slotting Alabama in instead of Ohio State?

Oh it's possible, but I don't trust the objectivity of the committee. I think they'd love to stick it to Saban given his public waffling on who should get in (win your conference / not win your conference). Plus is this really the year the SEC deserves two teams in the playoff?

post #102 of 124

De -- de-serve?  What is this word you use?

post #103 of 124
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Originally Posted by Anakin's Dad View Post

Cause that 31 point loss to Iowa is really, really bad.

 

Basically if Ohio State holds on here the resumes are as such- Bama has one top 20 win (LSU) and one good loss (Auburn on the road.) Ohio State will have three top 20 wins, including two in the top 10, a good loss (OU) and then the really bad Iowa loss.  Plus they will be conference champions.

 

So basically it's, do two extra top ten wins and a conference championship outweigh one really bad loss?  To me it does.  To an Alabama fan?  Probably not.  Neither team is completely "deserving", but both teams could justifiably go, I guess.

 

ETA- Talking about the rankings as they stand now, not at the time the game was played, obviously.

post #104 of 124

I think the close nature of the game will give the committee a little less incentive to jump Bama if they are inclined to put them in.  I don't really have a dog in the fight, as I'm not a fan of either team.  If Bama gets in they'll have to beat Clemson and the winner of Georgia/Oklahoma, so they'll damn sure be earning it.

post #105 of 124
Thread Starter 

The Iowa loss is awful, but Bama would have had a better chance if Florida State hadn't sucked this year.

 

Clemson

Oklahoma

Georgia

Ohio State

post #106 of 124
As an OSU fan, I can confidently say they will get crushed if they make it in. Their offense is really bad. The running attack could be great, but Meyer likes to focus the entire offense around JT Barrett who is a QB who can’t actually throw. They also lucked out majorly, playing thoroughly mediocre teams like Penn St, Michigan State and Wisconsin right as they reached the peak of their overinflated ratings. Oh well, I’m ready for another stomping from Clemson.
post #107 of 124

Another year, another time I have to reiterate how annoying I find it that the talking heads talk about "the eye test" and the talent of the team more than a team's resume.  Now, if you think Alabama's resume is better than OSU's, fine.  But argue that.  Don't tell me Alabama is more talented.  If it's about talent, then give out trophies for recruiting.  I don't care if someone thinks Alabama would beat OSU on a neutral field.  I always think Alabama is going to win when they play.  All that should matter is who has done the most to earn their way into the final fou on the field.  If they do it with less talent, then more power to them.

post #108 of 124
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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post

The Iowa loss is awful, but Bama would have had a better chance if Florida State hadn't sucked this year.

Clemson
Oklahoma
Georgia
Ohio State

FSU sucking didn't help, but if they give Clemson leeway with the, "Their QB was injured" line, they should also look that Bama was the only team to play FSU at full strength. It's a close debate, I'm obviously biased, but if they break 2 of their "rules" for OSU in back to back years, I want Delaney off the committee.
post #109 of 124

Alabama gets in over Ohio State.

 

Clemson plays Alabama, Oklahoma plays Georgia.

post #110 of 124
Clemson/Bama 3 is gonna be a war. An someone please plant some heroin or a dead hooker on Hunter Renfrow?
post #111 of 124

Looking forward to UCF beating Auburn and still being ranked behind them.

post #112 of 124

Wisconsin winning or OSU winning comfortably probably would have been enough to keep Bama out.  But the close, yet not particularly exciting nature of the Big Ten championship game just gave me a feeling it was the one scenario that would ensure things would go Alabama's way (again.)  Add to it with the fact that the way the final rankings shook out guaranteed that we'd get another Bama/Clemson matchup in the semifinal, to go along with the actual title game itself, and I think it was too much for the committee to pass up.  I can't say I love the decision, because I think OSU had the slightly better resume when you consider everything, but it was close enough to a coin flip that it doesn't rise to the level of a travesty of sports' justice, or anything like that.

post #113 of 124

The committee basically said, "Winning your conference doesn't outweigh two losses, one being by 31 to an unranked team."

post #114 of 124

They didn't just win the conference, though.  They also had two additional top ten wins.  SEC people would always cite just how tough their league is, and want to be rewarded for playing more ranked opponents in their league.  This year it went the other way, though.  It was the Big Ten team who had to play extra top ten conference foes, and suffered one additional slip up.

 

The committee has been saying all along, often in a roundabout way, that no criteria is set in stone. The company line seems to be, "it's all important/we look at all of it", which is a nonanswer.   Again, if anyone argues the Iowa loss is so bad that it outweighs two additional top ten wins, and a conference championship, I'm not gonna argue.  I just disagree.  But if the argument, as I believe Herbstreit mentioned last night, is that OSU had the better resume, but Alabama passed the eye test, and therefore the committee is justified putting them in, that bugs me.  It should be about what you've accomplished during the season.  Not how good you look.

post #115 of 124
If you had told me at the start of the season that FSU might hurt Bama's chances on making the playoffs, I would have thought FSU won that game.

Enjoyed the ULM game this weekend and was super happy for Odell Haggins, the interim HC. He's been with FSU forever. I'm expecting Taggart to be signed and excited about a new coaching staff. Sucks about how Jimbo ended it, but what can I do about it. Good luck to him in the SEC and having to play Alabama, Auburn, and LSU every season.
post #116 of 124

UCF grabbed two SEC coordinators today:  Missouri OC Josh Heupel as their new head coach and Florida DC Randy Shannon as their defensive coordinator.  Both sound like good hires; Heupel took an offense that was ranked in the 120s and took it to #13, while Shannon should help with recruiting in the state, having been in the north with Florida and the south with UM.  Let's just hope the Oklahoma job doesn't open up any time soon...

post #117 of 124
...and Taggart is the man! Excited for the future of FSU football. Should be a fun 2018.
post #118 of 124
Thread Starter 

Meanwhile, Tennessee waits. Bleh.

post #119 of 124
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Originally Posted by Martianman View Post

...and Taggart is the man! Excited for the future of FSU football. Should be a fun 2018.

You're welcome to him.  He was adversarial with everyone outside his circle, and the Ducks weren't exactly good this year.  I'm baffled, he must make a great sales pitch for himself.

 

Hope FSU players like rhabdomyolysis.

post #120 of 124

I almost feel like the UCF and FSU hires are as much about the guys who stand to inherit the job when the head coaches inevitably move on -- Shannon and Leavitt -- as they were about who got the main gig.

post #121 of 124
Thread Starter 

Tennessee appears to be hiring Alabama DC Jeremy Pruitt, best known for not knowing what asparagus is:

 

Yay?

post #122 of 124

"Muh strayuss? Hyuck."

 

Gotta love the South.  Where even an ostensibly healthy portion of food is covered in artery clogging sauce.

 

This guy will probably go 10-2 every year, Mangy.  Until he dies of a coronary at 58.

post #123 of 124
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Originally Posted by MrBananaGrabber View Post
 

You're welcome to him.  He was adversarial with everyone outside his circle, and the Ducks weren't exactly good this year.  I'm baffled, he must make a great sales pitch for himself.

 

Hope FSU players like rhabdomyolysis.

Must be a big Crossfit fan.

post #124 of 124

Army/Navy is my favorite day of the year. Love everything associated with the game, and Jeff Monken helping Army end the streak last year means a lot of renewed vigor with the rivalry this year.

 

Getting to an Army/Navy game is one of my bucket list items.

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