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post #151 of 211

http://www.studiodaily.com/2017/06/film-editor-paul-machliss-ace-baby-driver/

 

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And, before we had even embarked on The World’s End, we started putting a version together by segueing the songs, a little like a DJ mix, with overlapping starts and ends, and we would bridge them with sound effects. So we were tinkering with that for a while.

The next big step was a table read he did in early March 2012. He had mics around the room and recorded a sound file, which he sent over to me. Over the next couple of months in my spare time, I put this together — we took the table read, the songs and the sound effects, and added extra sound effects and put together, effectively, a 100-minute radio play that was the film without the pictures. We could give that to potential producers and other executives and say, here’s the film. You can hear it. Now we need to put the pictures on top of it. It was a unique way to sell the film to the studio — we had something tangible. People could put headphones on and become enveloped in the world of Baby Driver before we actually shot a frame.

 

yea, gareth edwards, yea

 

and this amount of from-scratch creativity was done specifically just to pitch the film to the studio

 

(the whole interview is worth reading in terms of the specificity of the editing, which was done on the set while shooting)

post #152 of 211

Helps if you have a finished script, a specifically musical concept and specific list of songs to work with of course...  (and need to convince someone that buying them all for your lower budget movie is necessary)

post #153 of 211
easy peasy!
post #154 of 211
Saw this last night and loved it. My buddies called out the romance as being too quick and underdeveloped, but I argued (as the finest minds in this thread did) that their love is modeled on old film romances. In the conceit of the film, it worked for me. They also had problems with Spacey's flip at the end. I agree with someone on page 1 I think that there is one scene missing that makes that work. I can justify it to myself, but I can see where people would have problems with it.

The soundtrack is fantastic, and I will definitely be picking it up. The transition between earbuds, the music, and his tinnitus (I kept stifling an Archer MAWP through the film) was fantastically used. When he doesn't have his music, he uses his own heartbeat as a beat to run/drive to.

I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I had dodged all the hype. I didn't realize it was an Edgar Wright film or who the cast was until Sunday.
post #155 of 211
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Originally Posted by MrTyres View Post

My buddies called out the romance as being too quick and underdeveloped

This was my favorite part of the second act. I totally bought them connecting quickly and to the level that they did. I can see how anyone might have found it rushed or unbelievable, but I dug it. Funny, this was something I hated about Wonder Woman for just about the same reason.

post #156 of 211
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This was my favorite part of the second act. I totally bought them connecting quickly and to the level that they did. I can see how anyone might have found it rushed or unbelievable, but I dug it. Funny, this was something I hated about Wonder Woman for just about the same reason.

 

It rang true to me. I think we don't see a couple of dates in-between their meeting and the third act. Half their romance is in that diner. I had no problems with it. 

post #157 of 211

While I enjoyed the movie and had a good time there is one thing that keeps bothering me and everyone will say I am nitpicking, but remember the dude they kept calling the "Army dude" at the 2nd heist? He's listed as Armie in the credits. Why did he just let whoever kill that armored car driver and only stop Baby? I mean he pulled out some kind of sub machine gun while in the car chase and fired it wildly and I think bystanders were just around. Also Spacey just wanting to die for Baby at the end is weird to me. Oh well.

post #158 of 211

I meant to ask, did the movie make any effort to explain Darling recovering from being shot? They seem to show her being shot, and Buddy being pissed about it, but that was it. She didn't seem to be bleeding much, showed no pain, and wasn't handicapped by it later. Maybe I missed something.

post #159 of 211
Nicked her arm. Plus lots of coke.
post #160 of 211
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Originally Posted by Rene A. Moncivais View Post
 

While I enjoyed the movie and had a good time there is one thing that keeps bothering me and everyone will say I am nitpicking, but remember the dude they kept calling the "Army dude" at the 2nd heist? He's listed as Armie in the credits. Why did he just let whoever kill that armored car driver and only stop Baby? I mean he pulled out some kind of sub machine gun while in the car chase and fired it wildly and I think bystanders were just around. Also Spacey just wanting to die for Baby at the end is weird to me. Oh well.

 

I just saw him as a have-a-go hero with a small arsenal in his vehicle. Proper NRA type who had his blood pumping when he went off in pursuit so collateral damage was irrelevant. There's a brief interview with him on the television, that might have had more info on him in the captions, I've only seen the film the one time. The heist was fast, so I guess crashing his pickup into the getaway car was as good a plan as any. He may not have even spotted it until Bats killed the security van guy. (it had to be Bats, the guy just refused on point of principle to get into any kind of transaction without murdering someone)

post #161 of 211
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 have-a-go

 

post #162 of 211

It seems a little unfair to compare this to Drive, but both films are so beholden to The Driver and Drive succeeds in so many places that Baby Driver fails, that it's hard not to. The "blankness" of the hero, the chaste / classic love story and especially when you get to the archetypal characters played by Brooks and Spacey are just executed so much more successfully in Drive. Baby Driver has the better action, obviously, but I found it lacked any standout moments. 

post #163 of 211
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It seems a little unfair to compare this to Drive, but both films are so beholden to The Driver and Drive succeeds in so many places that Baby Driver fails, that it's hard not to. The "blankness" of the hero, the chaste / classic love story and especially when you get to the archetypal characters played by Brooks and Spacey are just executed so much more successfully in Drive. Baby Driver has the better action, obviously, but I found it lacked any standout moments. 

 

Please.  No.  Don't do this ...  

post #164 of 211

It's not my fault that both movies are drawing from the same source and one is better!

post #165 of 211
Drive has better music.
post #166 of 211
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It's not my fault that both movies are drawing from the same source and one is better!

post #167 of 211
Drive also has the hotter star of "Mad Men."
post #168 of 211

I thought Hammbone was pretty bad in this.

post #169 of 211
Everyone was pretty good at stealing all the scenes away from the lead.

It's like they plugged a YouTube "star" into a movie with actual stars as some sort of twisted science experiment.
post #170 of 211

At least he's got just a little bit of life in him...  As opposed to...

 

post #171 of 211

Can't stop thinking about how bad the Spacey character is. He's supposed to be like Prosky in THIEF and then he melts down into a lovable uncle after the botched robbery. A microcosm of how unearned everything in the film is. 

post #172 of 211
I don't know that I agree everything is botched. Spacey definitely is though.
post #173 of 211

Spacey almost pulls it off. One missing scene!

post #174 of 211

I still don't buy Spacey displaying a paternal side.

post #175 of 211

Yeah, Spacey being all menacing and threatening to fuck up his girlfriend and then the next minute he's all young love and run free. Seemed rushed.

 

And I agree with Overlord. There is no reason to compare this movie to Drive. Drive should only just be compared to the actual source material. 

post #176 of 211

I really like Drive and enjoyed Baby Driver. That said, if you put the two into a Brundle-pod together, it's possible the resulting movie that came out could solve world peace.

post #177 of 211
You want a film that's slow and ponderous and extremely violent to mashup with a film that's breazy and fun and bubblegum pop music as edited by the hyper Edgar Wright? What does that even look like?
post #178 of 211
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You want a film that's slow and ponderous and extremely violent to mashup with a film that's breazy and fun and bubblegum pop music as edited by the hyper Edgar Wright? What does that even look like?

 

The Departed.

post #179 of 211

All I remember about that movie is that I loved it and HATED the editing.  

post #180 of 211
good answer DT
post #181 of 211
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
 

All I remember about that movie is that I loved it and HATED the editing.  

 

The Departed? It's Scorsese just having fun. All the hard cuts timed to music, the strange iris shot. Scorsese at possibly his most casual, and yet that's the film he won the Oscar for. I love it.

 

And thank you, Nooj!

post #182 of 211

Don't compliment him!

post #183 of 211
truly good work
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post #185 of 211
I have no intention of seeing this movie but Wright said my local cinema is the best in the world. So there is that.

Must be why its so bloody expensive ($17NZ to see a matinee of Logan and that's the cheap seats)

https://i.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/94561447/baby-driver-edgar-wright-calls-wellingtons-embassy-theatre-best-in-the-world
post #186 of 211
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Originally Posted by Bradito View Post

Everyone was pretty good at stealing all the scenes away from the lead.

It's like they plugged a YouTube "star" into a movie with actual stars as some sort of twisted science experiment.

 

If this is a movie where the supporting characters are more interesting and better performed than the protagonist, I'd say it's in pretty good company.  Unless we all hate STAR WARS and HARRY POTTER now.

post #187 of 211

The most unrealistic thing about this movie is that you could have a freeway chase in Atlanta traffic. 

post #188 of 211
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Originally Posted by Clarence Boddicker View Post
 

The most unrealistic thing about this movie is that you could have a freeway chase in Atlanta traffic. 

 

I thought that too, until Debora said she just wanted to get on Interstate 20 and go west. No self-respecting Georgian has ever claimed they wanted to go to Alabama, Mississippi, or Louisiana, especially on that road. 

post #189 of 211

Need to catch up on this thread, but just saw the movie.  Very much enjoyed it, but I think I was hyped to like it more than I did.

 

It was a fast 2 hours.  Near the end, before the diner scene, I ran out to the restroom thinking there was a good 45 minutes left. I wanted/expected one final chase near the end, so I found the ending a little unsatisfying. As they fled the diner, I think they could've crammed in one last chase scene and that would've done it for me.  Like once Deborah joins him, she doesn't really get to see him in a real pursuit situation.

 

Looking forward to revisiting it without the raised expectations though.

 

Maybe its just his wardrobe, but the Han Solo movie's going to have a hard time outdoing Elgort as a young Solo.

post #190 of 211
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Maybe its just his wardrobe, but the Han Solo movie's going to have a hard time outdoing Elgort as a young Solo.

 

Look at his glorious height, if nothing else!

post #191 of 211
Saw this last night. Very good, not great. Loved the supporting characters but had zero interest in Baby or Deborah. Still, the driving was excellent and the soundtrack was excellent and well used. 'Hocus Pocus', in particular, was expertly used.

Jon Hamm needs to be a bad guy again. He has a knack for it.
post #192 of 211
Jon Hamm is like Tom Sizemore playing Kevin Kline in A Fish Called Wanda in it. He's glorious.
post #193 of 211

I still think that if Elgort remained the character he was during the first 15-20 minutes, we'd have cared a lot more about him as the movie went on. I absolutely loved him as he brought the coffee back to the warehouse.

 

I'd argue that the first 30 minutes of this movie is the best movie I've seen this year. And by a large margin.

post #194 of 211
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I still think that if Elgort remained the character he was during the first 15-20 minutes, we'd have cared a lot more about him as the movie went on. I absolutely loved him as he brought the coffee back to the warehouse.

 

I'd argue that the first 30 minutes of this movie is the best movie I've seen this year. And by a large margin.

 

I'll agree with this.  The movie is absolutely killing it up until the point that Bernthal leaves.  From that point on, all that really works...character wise...is Foxx, Hamm, and Spacey.

post #195 of 211
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... It's like a Disney film except there's gunfire, vulgar language and people getting fucking impaled and blown up.

This is why the shallow sappiness of the romance didn't bug me. It's a fairytale. Plus those two had legit chemistry, which goes a long, long way with me.


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Originally Posted by Kyle Reese View Post

The family member I saw this with turned to me and exclaimed "THIS IS WEIRD." when Baby was grooving to the music in the first scene at home with his surrogate father.

But her favorite scene in Guardians of the Galaxy 1 was the opening bit with Chris Pratt dancing to his Walkman!

You can't win with some folks.

I liked Elgort's awkwardness in those scenes prancing around his house but I can see why it would turn someone else off. I think the difference comes down to the fact Pratt's playing a manboy in Guardians of the Galaxy while Baby is playing a boyman in Baby Driver.

And if that doesn't make sense it's not you, it's me.
post #196 of 211
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 I think the difference comes down to the fact Pratt's playing a manboy in Guardians of the Galaxy while Baby is playing a boyman in Baby Driver.

 

That's the first time I've seen that distinction outside of porno sites.

 

(jk)

post #197 of 211
It won't be the last if I have anything to do with it.

Anyway, I had a real good time with this one and thought everyone in the cast, Elgort included, did a really good job for the most part (Foxx was MVP for me) but not sure I'm amping to see it again like I was with Shaun of the Dead or Scott Pilgrim after I saw them for the first time. I particularly liked how it had an edge of 80s nastiness about it, with the security guard on the deck bleeding out and showing that poor cop in the diner getting blown away.

I think Baby Driver might end up 3rd = with Hot Fuzz in my vitally important Edgar Wright Rankings.
post #198 of 211
I thought you were the biggest world's end fan, bucho?

bucho?

bucho number one world's end fan?
post #199 of 211
"Biggest fan" doesn't go far enough. More like Ultimate Cheerleader. Or The Greatest Supporter. Or Is Currently Campaigning For The Right To Legally Marry The World's End.
post #200 of 211
you are #1garyking fan!
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