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post #701 of 937

it's all coming together...

 

notes: you can read "distinctive" as gentle movies about eating sandwiches and talking out one's problems. 

the duplass bros. have been replaced with joe swanberg. 

clockwise: louis leterrier (incredible hulk), joe johnson (captain america 1), joe swanberg, michael bay


Edited by Boone Daniels - 7/17/17 at 7:44am
post #702 of 937

Russos as "incomprehensible"?

 

Does not compute.

post #703 of 937
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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
 

Russos as "incomprehensible"?

 

Does not compute.

 

Winter Soldier only! To me, that's one of the most bland Marvel movies/modern blockbusters, that has airs of being thoughtful, but too often tips into plot mechanics and big 'splosions. It doesn't tip into outright nonsense a la Incredible Hulk or something like the films of CLOM (I almost made CLOM the midpoint of that grid), but it's close. 

 

That said, I will go to bat for Civil War, which is better than Ultron and moves in a way that WS doesn't. 

post #704 of 937

Winter Soldier?

So damn good.

post #705 of 937

ehhhhhhhh

post #706 of 937

Civil War?

It's fine.

post #707 of 937

First Avenger?

 

The best. 

post #708 of 937

Agreed!

 

There's a warmth and magic to that none of the other MCU movies have been able to capture.

post #709 of 937

Love all three Cap movies, but I think WS is the best WRT giving Steve an arc and some stakes.

 

I find Boone's disdain for it upsetting and incomprehensible!

post #710 of 937

My bias towards it admittedly comes from any number of film critics who hoisted it up as a proper conspiracy thriller a la THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR and the PARALLAX VIEW and then the film was nothing like that. 

post #711 of 937
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Originally Posted by Bartleby_Scriven View Post
 

Agreed!

 

There's a warmth and magic to that none of the other MCU movies have been able to capture.

 

Plus, Hayley Atwell in a red dress. 

post #712 of 937
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

My bias towards it admittedly comes from any number of film critics who hoisted it up as a proper conspiracy thriller a la THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR and the PARALLAX VIEW and then the film was nothing like that. 

 

I find the word "proper" problematic. It's an MCU film. Anyone expecting something closely equivalent to CONDOR is going to be disappointed. I remain heartened by what the Russo Bros have been able to sneak into MCU films beyond BIFF BAM BOOM. 

 

But yeah...that red dress.

post #713 of 937

I mean, let it be said that as much as I slag on WINTER SOLDIER, I really did like CIVIL WAR a great deal, and I thought it went a long way towards assuaging my fears about INFINITY WAR - their ability to keep the plot moving and juggle multiple characters/threads was much better in CW. In my opinion. Which is pretty good. 

post #714 of 937
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it's all coming together...


Boone you mad man. The Russos made the most comprehensible Marvel movie so far and thus I declare this graph to be not just bollocks, but utter bollocks, which is one of the most bollocks forms of bollocks.
post #715 of 937

Is the graph bobbins?

post #716 of 937

You are right! They did make the most comprehensible Marvel film, or one of them anyway, Civil War, reflected here: 


Edited by Boone Daniels - 7/17/17 at 12:43pm
post #717 of 937

You have  a marker in the top and bottom  left, respectively, that are not titled.

post #718 of 937
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Originally Posted by MichaelM View Post
 

You have  a marker in the top and bottom  left, respectively, that are not titled.

 

It's a work in progress, which is now updated. 

post #719 of 937
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You are right! They did make the most comprehensible Marvel film, or one of them anyway, Civil War, reflected here: 

Ultron is comprehensible if you have severe brain damage.  

post #720 of 937

Which is why it's closer to the incomprehensible side! 

post #721 of 937

Boone, I love ya.  But I LOVE when Chewers post absolutely insane crazy person opinions and theories way, way more.

 

KEEP GOING!

 

post #722 of 937
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Winter Soldier?
So damn good.

I'm team Bart on this one.
post #723 of 937
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Ultron is comprehensible if you have severe brain damage.  


Isn't it possible people suffered brain damage while they watched it?

post #724 of 937

"this means something. this is important."
 

post #725 of 937
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Isn't it possible people suffered brain damage while they watched it?

In an seriousness, it's a perfectly straight forward movie.  I don't even understand what aspect of the movie would be incomprehensible to understand?  I have this all the time where people claim something is beyond their understanding and I'm like...  Why?  Don't watch something slightly complicated like Memento if Ultron gives you problems, you might have a massive stroke.  

post #726 of 937

I like Ultron! But it relies too much on CGI spectacle and smashy-smash. It's loud, and the fight sequences are poorly calibrated. 

post #727 of 937

I think you're really abusing the definition of incomprehensible in that case.  

 

Also "It's loud" is the most old man ass criticism I've ever heard.  

post #728 of 937

I am all for a loud movie - see Fury Road - but my patience was sorely tested in the case of Ultron, which I did enjoy. 

post #729 of 937

So what was too loud?  Spaders speaking voice?  The 15 minute sequence on the farm?

post #730 of 937
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Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
 

In an seriousness, it's a perfectly straight forward movie.  I don't even understand what aspect of the movie would be incomprehensible to understand?  I have this all the time where people claim something is beyond their understanding and I'm like...  Why?  Don't watch something slightly complicated like Memento if Ultron gives you problems, you might have a massive stroke.  


I was joking. I like Ultron fine in spite of its massive issues. That said, complex and comprehensible are not always synonymous.

post #731 of 937
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So what was too loud?  Spaders speaking voice?  The 15 minute sequence on the farm?

 

Both of those are great, and I'm on record for thinking Spader is a top five Marbel Cinnamon villain. 

 

But the action sequences...woof. 

post #732 of 937

 

Ahhhhhhh yeaaaaaah.  Like a warm bath.  

post #733 of 937

Keaton's Vulture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spader's Ultron

post #734 of 937

1. Keaton

2. Bridges

3. Russell

4. Spader

5. Bruhl

6. Stoll

7. Hiddleston

post #735 of 937

Where the fuck is Weaver in that list? 

 

Ought to be #2, dammit.

post #736 of 937
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Keaton's Vulture >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spader's Ultron

Honestly?  No.  Spader is better.  More interesting.  So snarky.  

 

I LOVE Keatons blue collar thing.  Love it.  But Ultron is so good that he's worthy of being an AVENGERS villain.  Like Loki he's upper tier.  

 

Bridges being over Loki and Ultron is laughable.  COME ON BOONE

post #737 of 937

TONY STARK BUILT THAT IN A CAVE OUT OF SCRAPS and COLLATERAL DAMAGE TONY are better than most things in the entire MCU. 

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Where the fuck is Weaver in that list? 

 

Ought to be #2, dammit.

 

Wait, where were they? 

post #738 of 937

1. Keaton

2. Weaver

3. Hiddleston

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4. Everyone else.

post #739 of 937

WHO IS WEAVER

post #740 of 937

I suspect Michael might not know what he's talking about.  

post #741 of 937
Man, some of you guys are ranking Sigourney Weaver really high on those lists. The Defenders hasn't even dropped yet!
post #742 of 937

I wasn't even counting TV otherwise Tennant would be 1.

post #743 of 937

Kingpin not far behind.  

post #744 of 937
He means Weaving, ya fucking fucks.

MM, you are failing!!!
post #745 of 937
Not what he said. He said what he meant.
post #746 of 937
Freeb, I will bet you $1 billion that Michael meant Hugo Weaving.
post #747 of 937

OH NO I REVISED MY LIST AGAIN:

 

1. Keaton

2. Russell

3. Weaving 

4. Spader

5. Bridges

6. Bruhl

7. Hiddleston

8. Stoll
 

ARE YOU HAPPY MICHAEL

post #748 of 937

The history books have what he wrote, not what he intended to write.

 

AND DECIDE WHAT MY NICKNAME IS GOD DAMN IT.  Is it Freem?  Freema?  Freeb?  Reeman?  

post #749 of 937
Frisbee?
post #750 of 937
"Freeb" sounds more than a little like some kind of new-fangled racist epithet.
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