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The Big Sick (2017)

post #1 of 33
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Not even a thread for this?  The hypes is legit.  It switches from sweet and charming to tense and sad very smoothly, Romano and Hunter are no joke great, and it has the best 9/11 joke I've ever heard.  Shot instantly to the top of my favorite romcom list (not that I'm some great connoisseur of the genre).  


See this shit.

post #2 of 33
That 9/11 joke is aces.

I thought this waa structured really well, with the first act doing a great job setting up the central relationship, the second act establishing Kumail's relationship with her parents, and the third act dealing with the fallout of everything. I really appreciated how the film dealt with the aftermath of Zoe Kazan's coma. It wasn't used to wave away the problems the duo encounter in the first act.
post #3 of 33
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Yeah, I loved how the movie didn't wrap up any of the central conflicts (Emily's hurt and distrust after Kumail's lie, his relationship with his family, the tension between her parents) with neat, permanent resolutions, but still end them all on small enough upnotes that it retains the feel of a happy ending.  The end credit pictures certainly help that, too.

post #4 of 33
I saw the film again this week after having seen it about 2 months ago at a screening.

I liked the movie, but felt a bit off about it because that first screening was terribly presented. The sound was weak (completely silent for the first 5 minutes or so and they didn't start the movie over), the screen wasn't properly adjusted so the tops of heads were cut off throughout.

I ended up missing a lot of the funnier lines due to the laughter.

So seeing it presented properly this week really really improved my response to the film. It's great. Felt like a James L. Brooks movie from the 80s.
post #5 of 33
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Saw it again on a date, at which I realized I had accidentally cosplayed by wearing the exact light blue t-shirt that Kumail wears at multiple points in the film.  


Anyway, some random things I noticed the second time through:  Emily's dad never stops referring to Kumail as "Kumal", even though he's never actually hostile to him.  It's a romantic comedy where they leads never say "I love you."  And Emily Gordon is sitting in front of Kumail's friends at the final show in NYC.

post #6 of 33
Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post

 Emily's dad never stops referring to Kumail as "Kumal",


huh, I never caught that


I guess I must've just heard it as a slightly off pronunciation


The thing that really got me most in regards to how the movie upended my expectations, was how Emily's parents treat Kumail.  Based on the marketing, I'd assumed the tension between them would be directly based on issues of Kumail's background.  Probably because of Romano's "I always wanted to talk about 9/11 with one of... you..." moment in the trailer.


It was a really pleasant surprise to see the movie didn't go for anything that obvious and that the initial tension between them (with Holly Hunter specifically) was because she knew what a shitty person Kumail had been to her daughter.  The initial discomfort about his ethnicity is there very quietly, but it thankfully never becomes about that.


And watching the movie the second time knowing how the relationship played out, Kumail's shitty/selfish behavior during the first act really stood out.  I saw a lot of myself in it, actually.

post #7 of 33
So it's a choice between this and Lady Macbeth tonight. Probably the latter, as I'm not sure I want to be reminded of sitting around a hospital bed,, even if it's a comedy.
post #8 of 33
Whichever movie you choose, I just want to point out that there isn't very much in the way of scenes by a hospital bed.
post #9 of 33

I was doing OK, didn't drop tear one time.   Then Kumail had his breakdown on stage and the flood gates opened.

post #10 of 33

This is streaming on Amazon Prime now so I figured I'd finally check it out this morning, and it's wonderful. James L. Brooks is a great comparison - it has that same kind of humanity, humor, and warmth. As Schwartz pointed out earlier, the way it resolves things on small grace notes rather than definitive conclusions is incredibly effective, and I found that whole third act to be deeply moving.

post #11 of 33
Originally Posted by Schwartz View Post

 It's a romantic comedy where they leads never say "I love you."  And Emily Gordon is sitting in front of Kumail's friends at the final show in NYC.


To come back to the topic of 'genre'...


I remember having a discussion with Schwartz (I think?) about what constituted a ROM COM.  I thought it was in regards to this specific film and this thread, but I guess not?  Anyway, I think I argued that it was really only a romantic comedy for the first third and the denouement.


Anyway, I was listening to a podcast that Emily Gordon was a guest on and she talked about how she and Kumail never actually considered their film being a romantic comedy.  

post #12 of 33

Depends on what you'd call the necessary genre beats of the rom-com, maybe. It certainly doesn't have the last-minute run-to-the-airport or whatever (though I also listened to a podcast w/ both of the writers, and they joked that when it came time to write the ending they actually considered doing that kind of ending), or anything like that whole early-2000s nadir of the genre where it became "two pretty people lie to each other throughout the movie and yet somehow they're gonna have a good relationship in the future".


That is interesting what Gordon said. Which podcast was it?

post #13 of 33

It was on a new one called Switchblade Sisters in which she and the host discussed BONE TOMAHAWK 

post #14 of 33
Thread Starter 
I don’t think it was me you were talking to. But the denouement kind of is a modern-day version of the “run to the airport” moment, in that the gesture is essentially the same, it’s just done with restraint and an acknowledgment that following and finding someone in a major city isn’t prohibitively difficult for middle class types.
post #15 of 33

but arguing with you is my JOB!





post #16 of 33
Originally Posted by COULD432 View Post

That 9/11 joke is aces.

Watched this last night and had to pause the movie for five minutes when he said that. So great.


I really loved this. Nanjiani, Kazan, Hunter and Romano are all outstanding. I've grown numb to standup scenes in movies starring standup comics, but aside from that subplot, this is one of the best comedies to come out in a long time.

post #17 of 33

Saw this last night and loved it. Very charming, funny and sweet. The characters are immediately familiar and fully formed. So much so I kind of wish there was a TV show so I could just hang out with them.


"What, Emily is sick again?! Can we stretch this out 13 episodes?"

post #18 of 33



another movie bart can sort in his "eating my VEGGIES so I can talk about junk guilt-free" category!





Kumail's tall roommate?


andrew stanton

post #19 of 33
You caught me.

How about that star war?
post #20 of 33



I also continue to eat my veggies so that I can continue complaining about blockbusters with a CLEEEEAN CONSCIENCE!

post #21 of 33

but I also really like veggies

post #22 of 33
You’re so excited right now.

I’d actually say The Big Sick is just an old-fashioned good movie that happens to have a diverse cast and progressive politics. It wasn’t particularly challenging or artistic, just honest and authentic.

Now Lady Macbeth I watched the other day was definitely eating veggies. And Raw, well, now the metaphor gets icky.
post #23 of 33

veggies get me all hyper!

post #24 of 33

Finally saw this last night and loved every minute of it. It also has the best 9/11 joke in, like, ever.

post #25 of 33

their BEST guys...

post #26 of 33

Really impressed by Ray Romano in this. I was previously exposed to him taking a dramatic turn in the show Parenthood, as my wife was a big fan.


There he plays a character on the spectrum, high-functioning, dating Lauren Graham's character and he was really affecting! Previously I, of course, only knew him from Everybody Loves Raymond.


And this continues into The Big Sick, in which he's an affable but complex guy that's made some mistakes but has really natural chemistry with Holly Hunter and strikes up an immediate rapport with Kumail. 


Like I said above, I wouldn't mind a TV show. How about we follow Emily's parents back to North Carolina? Math teacher conference escapades! 

post #27 of 33

you ever see MEN OF A CERTAIN AGE?


I enjoyed that

post #28 of 33

Nope, never heard of it. Did see Romano for two seconds on The Office when all those guest stars were trying to be the new manager.


He was funny!

post #29 of 33

yeah I've seen it


his bit was fun!



MEN OF A CERTAIN AGE was a TBS (or TNT?) drama series starring Romano, Andre Braugher, and Scott Bakula

post #30 of 33

Ah, TBS before they got weird and started putting out stuff like Wrecked, Search Party and People of Earth. Or as I like to think of TBS, gentler FX.

post #31 of 33

Been laid up with a bad back and so knocked out a bunch of streaming stuff and this was one of them.  Just a wonderful little movie.  I too liked how the film didn't end on a definitive resolution to everything; even the reunion feels less like a continuation and more like a new start (especially given how it repeats their meet-cute from earlier).


And yes, the 9-11 joke is amazing.

post #32 of 33

This was great! I really like this stage of Ray Romano's career, where he is balancing comedy and drama. 


Just a great ensemble from start to finish. Kumail's mom was a particular stand-out. 


The fact that I think of Kumail as a Los Angeles based comedian and that he was playing a character named after himself led me to spending the first third of the movie thinking the movie was set in Los Angeles, not Chicago. 


I was surprised at how affecting the hospital stuff was. My wife and I were dating less than a year when she had to go to the ER one night and it turned out her kidneys were shutting down from an infection. She 100 percent recovered, but a lot of the stuff where you have to call and update people you don't really know, and make medical decisions, really resonated with me. 

post #33 of 33

Even though I was spoiled on the 9/11 joke, I still laughed my head off at it.


 What I liked about the movie was how fleshed out the characters where. That was shitty Kumail to not tell Emily about his family and not wanting to meet hers, but I did see where he was coming from. Even when Kumal's family shun him, they don't stop loving him. Its easy to believe that they will make amends in the future.


  I was surprised how much I liked Romano in this. The only thing I knew him from was Everybody Loves Raymond and that never interested me. He was good a the well meaning guy who doesn't quite have a way with words.


  Hunter's best moment was when she flipped out on the racist heckler. "Why would you want ISIS to have more fighters?"


  I was thinking a more believable ending would be Kumail and Emily not getting back together. I couldn't blame her for not wanting to get back with him since he did say to her that he didn't know if they had a future. It would be a touch of realism if things didn't work out. That said I had a big fucking smile when she showed at the end. Her seeing Kumail's onstage break down is a believable reason for her to give him a second chance. Finally the real Kumail and Emily are married, so I guess it was a realistic ending.

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