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Would you go to the movies every day for $10/month?

post #1 of 79
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Because you can totally do that now. 

 

Pros and Cons.

 

The biggest reason I don't go to the theaters much anymore:

 

Cost.  Cheaper to stay home with netflix and amazon and the occasional (cheap) digital rental.

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post #3 of 79
Since it's now run by Netflix I can only assume the idea is to get a bunch of subscribers in at this low price then slowly raise the price up through the ensuing years.
post #4 of 79

It's not just about cost, it's about the quality of the experience and the films themselves.  Are there even twelve movies worth seeing theatrically every year, especially if you don't live in a big enough city to get some of the more interesting limited releases?  I certainly would not have waited for DUNKIRK to hit Netflix, but it pretty much takes a movie at that level to make me want to go roll the dice on not sitting next to a chatterbox.  Which happened to me with DUNKIRK, incidentally.  A group of four, all old enough to be grandparents, not shutting the fuck up for one minute throughout the film.  I'm not paying a subscription for that.

post #5 of 79
See, if I'm paying $9.95 a month, there's stuff I'd consider going to see out of curiosity that I'd wait for video on if I was paying every single time.

And hey, I might take the $10 or $12 I would have spent on the ticket and spend it at the concession stand, of which the theater gets all the profit. Which is why AMC being so against this baffles me. My guess? They want to roll out something similar for their Stubs program and don't want the competition.
post #6 of 79
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It's not just about cost, it's about the quality of the experience and the films themselves.  Are there even twelve movies worth seeing theatrically every year, especially if you don't live in a big enough city to get some of the more interesting limited releases?  I certainly would not have waited for DUNKIRK to hit Netflix, but it pretty much takes a movie at that level to make me want to go roll the dice on not sitting next to a chatterbox.  Which happened to me with DUNKIRK, incidentally.  A group of four, all old enough to be grandparents, not shutting the fuck up for one minute throughout the film.  I'm not paying a subscription for that.
Well the good news with this is that you can walk out and it doesn't cost you anything to come back to watch them movie again the next day.
post #7 of 79
I'm all over this. Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I will see Annabelle: Creation after all.
post #8 of 79
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Since it's now run by Netflix I can only assume the idea is to get a bunch of subscribers in at this low price then slowly raise the price up through the ensuing years.

 

Netflix isn't running it, it's being run the co-founder of Netflix.  

 

Really, it's a no brainer.  As far as talkers, just go on a slow weekday afternoon on a day off, or super early or super late on the weekend long after a movie has been out.  Or just come back later since you're not paying for it everytime.  Hopefully your area has a participating theater with a no talking/texting policy and actually enforces it.  Not sure if Drafthouse is part of the list.

post #9 of 79
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If you want to know which theaters in your area are participating, just copy/paste this into your browser and replace the zipcode with your own:

 

https://www.moviepass.com/theaters/zip/78702

post #10 of 79
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Well the good news with this is that you can walk out and it doesn't cost you anything to come back to watch them movie again the next day.

I haven't looked to see if the terms of service has changed, but I know at one point you could not do this.  You could only see one movie every 24 hours (since changed to calendar day), and you could only see each movie only once.  Not sure if that is still the case or how they enforce that.

post #11 of 79
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If you want to know which theaters in your area are participating, just copy/paste this into your browser and replace the zipcode with your own:

 

https://www.moviepass.com/theaters/zip/78702

Oh man, my neighborhood beer and movie joint, FLIX, is listed.

post #12 of 79

I've been burned by MoviePass enough with their price jumps and restrictions and blackouts - and I've joined a couple of times, starting when you had to physically print your ticket out, and later when they switched to a credit card - that I'll hold off for the time being to see if this stays consistent. 

 

If you live in a major city, it's great because a bunch of the arthouses partner with them, but there's always one or two theaters you want to see stuff at that aren't on there. AMC is my chain of choice, too. 

post #13 of 79
I figure ten bucks is worth a shot.
post #14 of 79
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Oh man, my neighborhood beer and movie joint, FLIX, is listed.

 

The good news is most Drafthouses seem to be participating, so I don't have to worry about talkers/texters.

post #15 of 79
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I'm kind of baffled by the company's refusal to provide a basic list of theaters on its website... you apparently have to sign up and have a card mailed to you first.  Stupid.

 

The good news is you're likely to find plenty of theaters near you unless you live in the middle of nowhere.  But it's still weird.

post #16 of 79
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I'm kind of baffled by the company's refusal to provide a basic list of theaters on its website... you apparently have to sign up and have a card mailed to you first.  Stupid.

 

The good news is you're likely to find plenty of theaters near you unless you live in the middle of nowhere.  But it's still weird.

 

I think if you download the app first, you can see theaters. When I let my membership expire, that was the case. 

post #17 of 79
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I think if you download the app first, you can see theaters. When I let my membership expire, that was the case. 

I downloaded the app yesterday, and it wouldn't let me do anything, including look up theaters, until I created an account.

post #18 of 79

Yeah, I could find the (impressive) list on the ap, but it took some doing. Not the cleanest tech, but then this whole thing has a very Crazy Ernie's Low Low Prices vibe to it already. Should be an interesting ride!

post #19 of 79

I also can't state how annoying the whole "you have to be 100 feet from a theater" feature is. It basically means you have to show up enough in advance to get a good seat, so if you like reserved seating a la the Drafthouse - which might also be why AMC, who also does reserved seating, bailed - it's not going to be your friend. 

post #20 of 79

I'll give it a month before I sign up.  First to see how the reaction is.  But also in a month Twin Peaks and Game of Thrones will be over, and I can drop Showtime and HBO and use that money for the sub.

post #21 of 79
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Well the good news with this is that you can walk out and it doesn't cost you anything to come back to watch them movie again the next day.

 

When I last used it, you couldn't use it to see the same movie twice.

post #22 of 79

It also seems like they've done blackouts entirely for IMAX and large format screenings, where in the past, you could apply the price of a normal ticket - roughly 15 or so - and pay the difference.

post #23 of 79

Thanks for the heads-up. Going to give this a try. It'll get me out to see at least two movies a month, and if I don't like it, I'm out ten bucks.

post #24 of 79
Netflix's plan to pay for this is to turn around and sell user data to analytics companies. My biggest concern about this, in the long run, is that I'd be actively encouraging the production of thoughtless derivative shit, even more than I already do by purchasing conventional tickets.
post #25 of 79
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Netflix's plan to pay for this is to turn around and sell user data to analytics companies. My biggest concern about this, in the long run, is that I'd be actively encouraging the production of thoughtless derivative shit, even more than I already do by purchasing conventional tickets.

 

The analytics angle bothers me too, but if you don't go see derivative shit, wouldn't you be slanting the needle against it?

post #26 of 79
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The analytics angle bothers me too, but if you don't go see derivative shit, wouldn't you be slanting the needle against it?

 

But this type of model explicitly encourages you to see the derivative shit after you've seen what you really want to.

 

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Netflix's plan to pay for this is to turn around and sell user data to analytics companies. My biggest concern about this, in the long run, is that I'd be actively encouraging the production of thoughtless derivative shit, even more than I already do by purchasing conventional tickets.

 

Also, this is why I didn't immediately sign-up. The naked admission that we don't care that we will lose money on this, we're gonna invade the shit out of your privacy and make fucking bank skeeved me the fuck out.  I would love to do this if that wasn't the true end goal. Or at the very least don't put it in bright flashing neon letters in front of me.  Lure me like a complacent sheep ferfuckssake.

post #27 of 79

What I would more likely do with this service is go see all the things I would normally wait for on home video.

 

Since I usually tend to like seeing the big dumb derivative shit in premium format presentations on opening weekends, it wouldn't really help there.

 

But in terms of seeing more things like COLOSSAL in theaters, I think it's pretty nice.

post #28 of 79
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But this type of model explicitly encourages you to see the derivative shit after you've seen what you really want to.

 

 

Also, this is why I didn't immediately sign-up. The naked admission that we don't care that we will lose money on this, we're gonna invade the shit out of your privacy and make fucking bank skeeved me the fuck out.  I would love to do this if that wasn't the true end goal. Or at the very least don't put it in bright flashing neon letters in front of me.  Lure me like a complacent sheep ferfuckssake.

 

I guess I see what you're saying, but at this price, if I see just two movies a month, I'm saving money and going out when I'm usually staying in. There are usually two movies any given month I want to see, and I'm not going to trek out for The Emoji Movie just because it's free.

 

I wholeheartedly agree with your second point, and it's why I haven't pulled the trigger.

post #29 of 79
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The analytics angle bothers me too, but if you don't go see derivative shit, wouldn't you be slanting the needle against it?

That's a terrific counterpoint, and it should have occurred to me. I'd be able to use the analytic tracking to support the kind of smarter, smaller films that, for budgetary reasons, I currently wait to see on home release.
post #30 of 79

I've been using Amazon since 2002.  I've been on Facebook for over ten years.  My data's out there already.

post #31 of 79
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The data thing seems like a weird objection.  If you have netflix or amazon or any streaming service, or use social media or just google a fucking movie or product you are being targeted.  There's little point in even worrying about it at this point.  

post #32 of 79

It's the nakedness of it. I am well aware of the fact that this is the goal of most companies nowadays; that Facebook ushered in the modern era of data analysis and that if it's free or cheap the thing being monetized, or the real product, is you. But this seems like the first time I have heard a CEO just flat out say, we plan to lose money on the subscription side because we are going to sell the shit out of you on the back end.  That's always been the hush, hush, wink, wink of things whereas this is out there on the front end.

post #33 of 79
but don't you want the transparency???
post #34 of 79
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It's the nakedness of it. I am well aware of the fact that this is the goal of most companies nowadays; that Facebook ushered in the modern era of data analysis and that if it's free or cheap the thing being monetized, or the real product, is you. But this seems like the first time I have heard a CEO just flat out say, we plan to lose money on the subscription side because we are going to sell the shit out of you on the back end.  That's always been the hush, hush, wink, wink of things whereas this is out there on the front end.

 

Well he's not saying it to be transparently evil or anything like the bad guy who tells the hero his evil plan in the third act, it's necessary because the business model obviously doesn't make sense and is fishy unless he explains it.  

 

I mean we could talk all day about how this is just business as usual in an out of control capitalistic society without morals and that the original Robocop was so far ahead of its time, but what's the point?  It's cheap, useful and isn't going to lead to anything that isn't already going on en masse.  

post #35 of 79

Australia needs something like this so bad. Unfortunately it'll probably just be a sacrificial lamb to illustrate the entrenched cinema monopolies.  Watching them stamp it out so fast will be ...informative.

post #36 of 79

Okay, I caved and signed up for this today.  For me it's just a matter of not knowing how often I'll actually use it.  With a toddler I have no time to go see a movie.  Me and my wife cant really afford to get babysitters all the time.  So this will probably be me going to a morning matinee on Sundays by myself.  We'll see how long that lasts before my wife starts getting annoyed that I'm going out to watch movies without her while she has to watch the daughter.  And that last sentence wasn't a dig at my wife in any way.  It would totally be reasonable for her to get annoyed after a while.

post #37 of 79

Can one of you who has an account already tell me what theaters are participating for 55347?  I don't want to make an account without knowing if it's even worth my while.

post #38 of 79

Also: I assume that I can't have two accounts on here.  Namely, my wife will have to create her own account and have her own card if we're going to take advantage of this.  Is that correct?

post #39 of 79

Yes. One card, one ticket. 

post #40 of 79

The app isn't currently showing any theaters for any location, at least not for me.  Might be waiting for me to activate my card.

post #41 of 79
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The app isn't currently showing any theaters for any location, at least not for me.  Might be waiting for me to activate my card.

Yep.  Same here.  Just a map with no markers.  And I did see someone on Reddit mention you have to enter your card info before it will give you a list of theaters.  Why? I don't know, but that's dumb.  Someone else on Reddit mase a website where you put in your zip and it will show you who takes it:

https://www.moviepasslocations.com/

But I tried it and it seemed to show me every theater in my area, so I'm not sure how accurate it is.

post #42 of 79
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The app isn't currently showing any theaters for any location, at least not for me.  Might be waiting for me to activate my card.

 

Well, I'll be damned if I can find a way, either on the app or on the site, to find a theater list in my area.  I'm not going to sign up for this without knowing if I'd need to drive out to the boonies in order to make use of it.  My primary theater is the AMC Eden Prairie location, and it makes zero sense to buy this if AMC is going to deny it.


Edited by Judas Booth - 8/18/17 at 8:07am
post #43 of 79
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Yep.  Same here.  Just a map with no markers.  And I did see someone on Reddit mention you have to enter your card info before it will give you a list of theaters.  Why? I don't know, but that's dumb.  Someone else on Reddit mase a website where you put in your zip and it will show you who takes it:

https://www.moviepasslocations.com/

But I tried it and it seemed to show me every theater in my area, so I'm not sure how accurate it is.

 

Yeah, that seems to show pretty much every theater in the Twin Cities.  AMC included.  I'd want to know if this is legit before pulling the trigger.  

 

Thanks for the link, though!

post #44 of 79

I remember the last time I used this, pretty much every theater in Orlando was available.  Even the local rep house.

post #45 of 79
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The list is accurate.  I know because when I looked at the other legit list it listed every Drafthouse in Austin except the newest one.  This second list does the same.

post #46 of 79

That list has a bunch of AMC theaters on it, though. Do we know if they've pulled out entirely? 

post #47 of 79
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Also: I assume that I can't have two accounts on here.  Namely, my wife will have to create her own account and have her own card if we're going to take advantage of this.  Is that correct?

I'd pay 15-20/month for a family option to eliminate the hassle.
post #48 of 79

AMC has not pulled out. They're threatening legal action because of an agreement they signed a while back, the circumstances of which Moviepass has changed dramatically. So it might only be a matter of time. Or maybe this will work in the way Moviepass hopes it will, and they'll be able to pay it off. I'll take the chance!

post #49 of 79

Thanks for the info, Arjen.

 

OK, looks like I'm doing this.  $20/month for the wife and I is a no brainer, especially since we go to the movies at least twice a month.

post #50 of 79

If I get my card by next weekend, maybe I'll actually go see The Dark Tower.  Or Spider Man.  Movies I would usually wait to watch at home.

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