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post #301 of 570

Credit where credit is due, Franco did a good job in creating two distinct characters, especially as the season developed and both characters got equivalent screentime.  I got to the point where I could tell the apart even without the slight hairstyle change.  It's not quite DEAD RINGERS/Jeremy Irons quality, but it's up there.

post #302 of 570

It's never going to happen in a gazillion years, but I would love to see Barry Keoghan get a supporting actor nomination for The Killing of a Sacred Deer. That kid is a great actor.

post #303 of 570

Credit to Judas, he was right on Plummer getting in somewhere. I really did not think that would happen because of the tightness of the schedule.

 

The really baffling snubs to me are the total shut-out of The Big Sick and the omissions of Call Me By Your Name/Get Out in screenplay. Not surprised they went w/ the bigger star of the two CMBYN supporting actors in that category.

post #304 of 570
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post #305 of 570
If I know anything from the Trumpocalypse thread, always bet on Judas.

Almost always.
post #306 of 570

I've just scanned the nominations, and nothing feels particularly unexpected or exciting.  The overall road to the Oscars does feel pretty wide open at this point, which I appreciate, but it's hard to muster up much enthusiasm for anything the HFP puts out there.  They remain a joke.

 

Reading the nominees does remind me that I've got a lot of work to do in order to catch up and see all the relevant contenders.  Given that almost all of them - outside of the BIG movies - are in limited release, it's tough waiting for them to arrive in my market (if they ever do!).

post #307 of 570

I will say if this stupid "we can't believe he did it" narrative lands Scott a directing nomination and Plummer an acting one I will not be happy. 

post #308 of 570
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

I will say if this stupid "we can't believe he did it" narrative lands Scott a directing nomination and Plummer an acting one I will not be happy. 

 

Unless the movie is astounding, which is a distinct possibility.

post #309 of 570
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

 

Unless the movie is astounding, which is a distinct possibility.

 

If it's "astounding" in a year like this one, I'll eat my hat. 

 

There is nothing about the trailers or material surrounding it to suggest that. Just some Globes nominations from a cabal of star-fuckers. 

post #310 of 570
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As chuffed as I am that Balfe and Foy have been recognised, I think it would be a crime to give that award to anyone other than Maggie Gyllenhaal this year. 

 

 

Wait!!! "Chuffed" is a good thing? I thought it was negative.

 

 

Stop messing with me, you damned Brit.

post #311 of 570
‘Chuffed’ tends to refer to the kind of genuine, but not overwhelming, pleasure you might feel at, say, winning five pounds on a scratch card.
post #312 of 570

I now need to re-evaluate everything I've ever heard*.  Mind=blown.

 

 

 

*Edit: I mean, with regards to the usage of "chuffed".

post #313 of 570
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post

If it's "astounding" in a year like this one, I'll eat my hat. 

There is nothing about the trailers or material surrounding it to suggest that. Just some Globes nominations from a cabal of star-fuckers. 

HFPA could’ve given Sir Ridley’s slot to Gerwig or Peele.

Grab your pitchforks!

ETA: Other than The Martian, the one-two punch of Black Rain and Thelma & Louise, his first comeback, remain his last GREAT movies.
post #314 of 570

Boone, what's your beef with ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD?  Do you want it to suck?

post #315 of 570
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Boone, what's your beef with ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD?  Do you want it to suck?

 

Yes. 

 

I also don't like the narrative that is forming around the film. 

post #316 of 570
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I now need to re-evaluate everything I've ever heard*.  Mind=blown.

 

 

 

*Edit: I mean, with regards to the usage of "chuffed".

 

It's also slang for vagina, so I can see how you might be confused.

 

"I'm trying to maneuvere into this parking space, but it's tighter than a gnat's chuff."

 

ETA: which is why I have a chuckle every time I think of the shop called "The Chough Bakery" in Padstow, Cornwall. "Chough" is pronounced "chuff".

post #317 of 570
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

 

Yes. 

 

I also don't like the narrative that is forming around the film. 

 

I don't mind the narrative at all as long as the film itself merits the accolades.  To that point, Plummer is a pro, and I have zero doubt that he delivered a great performance in this.  Michelle Williams is also a very, very good actress, so I don't have a hard time believing that she delivered the goods.  Ridley is hit or miss with me, and his nom (especially when the film didn't get nominated) is the head scratcher and seems like a true 'he pulled it off!' nomination.

post #318 of 570
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I don't mind the narrative at all as long as the film itself merits the accolades.  To that point, Plummer is a pro, and I have zero doubt that he delivered a great performance in this.  Michelle Williams is also a very, very good actress, so I don't have a hard time believing that she delivered the goods.  Ridley is hit or miss with me, and his nom (especially when the film didn't get nominated) is the head scratcher and seems like a true 'he pulled it off!' nomination.

 

But I don't think there's anything about it to suggest that it does merit the accolades. You look at the list of films that came out this year - and it's a very long list, as this was a very good year - and I'm just skeptical that the film is anywhere near that level of quality. And again, in a year like this, I am highly dubious of the fact that Plummer delivered one of the five best supporting performances of the year. 

 

It's also irritating that Scott got the nomination when there were better candidates. 

 

But hey, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. 

post #319 of 570
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It's also irritating that Scott got the nomination when there were better candidates. 

 

 

Having yet to see the film, I find this to be an unfair statement.  It's very possible that Ridley absolutely knocked this out of the park.  Still, if he DID do something exemplary, then why wasn't the film itself nominated?

post #320 of 570
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Having yet to see the film, I find this to be an unfair statement.  It's very possible that Ridley absolutely knocked this out of the park.  Still, if he DID do something exemplary, then why wasn't the film itself nominated?

 

Because I don't think Ridley Scott doing his best late-period Ridley Scott (and I like late-period Ridley Scott) is going to be as good as what Jordan Peele, who wasn't nominated, did in GET OUT. Or Greta Gerwig did with Lady Bird. Or hell, forget about people complaining about Patty Jenkins and give me Sofia Coppola for the Beguiled. Or Paul Thomas Anderson for PHANTOM THREAD if you want to go with directors who did flicks I hadn't seen.

 

Again, this was a pretty remarkable year for movies, and I have a hard time believing that Ridley Scott was one of the five best directors. 

post #321 of 570

Is there really a consensus that this has been a remarkable year for movies?

 

I'm looking over how my Top 10 list is shaping up at this minute (with many of these awards contenders yet-unseen, granted), and I'm not more impressed than the last several years.  In fact, with the exception of DUNKIRK and GET OUT, I'm not sure any more of my current 10 would have made last year's list, or even 2015's.

 

Perhaps things will look drastically different in a month, when I've been able to see a lot more of these year-end releases.

post #322 of 570
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Is there really a consensus that this has been a remarkable year for movies?

 

It has been a very good year. It's no 2007, sure. But it's been better than expected. 

post #323 of 570
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It's no 2007, sure.

On that we certainly agree!

post #324 of 570

For the record, this is my definitive list of star rankings for movies I saw in 2017:

 

4/4:

Baby Driver

Blade Runner 2049

The Big Sick

Call Me by Your Name

The Disaster Artist

Dunkirk

The Florida Project

Get Out

Good Time

Ingrid Goes West

Lady Bird

Logan

Twin Peaks*

 

3.5/4:

Darkest Hour

I, Tonya

The Lego Batman Movie

Split

Thor: Ragnarok

Wind River

Wonder Woman

 

3/4:

I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore

It

John Wick: Chapter 2

Kingsman: The Golden Circle

Kong: Skull Island

Murder on the Orient Express

Roman J. Israel, Esq.

Spider-Man: Homecoming

 

2.5/4:

Alien: Covenant

All the Money in the World
American Assassin

Colossal

Detroit

The Foreigner

Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol. 2

Justice League

The Shape of Water

Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

War for the Planet of the Apes

xXx: Return of Xander Cage

 

2/4:

American Made

Atomic Blonde

The Fate of the Furious

It Comes at Night

The Last Jedi

 

1.5/4:

The Belko Experiment

Downsizing

 

1/4:

Sleepless

Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets

 

.5/4:

Baywatch

 

0/4:

mother!


Edited by HunterTarantino - 1/7/18 at 4:40pm
post #325 of 570
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1/4:

 

Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets

 

DEAD TO ME

post #326 of 570
Baywatch is pretty good.
post #327 of 570
I think it’s been a very strong movie year, one of the best in a long while. Good genre films, good indie films, and what I’ve seen of the prestige crop has been good too. I doubt All the Money in the World is one of the best as well, but I’ll be fucked if a few golden globe nominations are going to irritate me. They always nominate a bunch of horseshit.
post #328 of 570
The 5 drama noms at the Globes are absolutely the Real Five nominees at the Oscars in a non-expanded field year. Not surprised.

And yeah, haven’t seen a lot of stuff this year, but it’s turned out some gems.
post #329 of 570
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I think it’s been a very strong movie year, one of the best in a long while. Good genre films, good indie films, and what I’ve seen of the prestige crop has been good too. I doubt All the Money in the World is one of the best as well, but I’ll be fucked if a few golden globe nominations are going to irritate me. They always nominate a bunch of horseshit.

 

Exhibit A: The Tourist.

post #330 of 570

ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD is supposed to be awesome.

 

(just poking the Boone tiger)

post #331 of 570

Are these the same people saying WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE is actually good? 

post #332 of 570

SAG nominations:

Biggest shockers - total shut-out for The Post, Daniel Kaluuya makes it into Best Actor (which... can he pull it off at the Oscars? He does now have a Globe and SAG nom, and that would be fucking amazing), both CMBYN supporting actors are snubbed for Woody Harrelson for Three Billboards and, uh, Steve Carell for Battle of the Sexes. The Big Sick and Mudbound make it into Ensemble over The Post/CMBYN.

 

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/2018-sag-award-nominations-list-nominees-1202638033/

post #333 of 570

Huh, you'd think two popular stars like Hanks and Streep would have some sway over SAG.  Maybe the impression is it's Spielberg's show?

post #334 of 570

Nothing for Plummer, either. 

 

It looks like SAG opened their nominations early - November 16th - which I think was before THE POST screened. 

post #335 of 570
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Originally Posted by Boone Daniels View Post
 

Nothing for Plummer, either. 

 

You must be so very happy.

post #336 of 570

Nah. I just thought it was worth noting he didn't get in, and he probably would have, if not for the early nomination dates. 

post #337 of 570
No ensemble nod for Dunkirk either, although I think everyone acknowledges that as a director driven project.
post #338 of 570

SAG nods aren't 100% in sync with the Oscar nods... but they're pretty damn close.

 

Streep will still get in because of course she will.

 

Sticking with Three Billboards/Nolan.

post #339 of 570
Intrigued that The Shape of Water didn’t get an ensemble nomination.

On a TV note, the love GLOW got has me soaring. That better win ensemble.

Was thinking of MoviePassing Roman J. Israel, Esq. today.
post #340 of 570

Disappointed that FEUD: BETTY AND JOAN didn't get in for best ensemble.

post #341 of 570
More Twin Peaks and MacLachlan snubbage.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOne

Sorry.
post #342 of 570

Dunkirk was never getting in for Best Ensemble but color me shocked by Call Me By Your Name and The Shape of Water. The former's chances were fucked by Moonlight just winning and the latter being genre. But still a nod at least.

post #343 of 570
Stuhlbarg appears to be out of the running too.
post #344 of 570

Here's something that's about to be A Thing - "Beats Per Minute (BPM)," which very nearly won the Palm d'Or this spring and won the Best Foreign Language film at NY and LA Critics', is not one of the final nine films eligible for nomination: 

http://variety.com/2017/film/in-contention/oscars-nine-films-advance-in-foreign-language-race-1202641490/

 

post #345 of 570

Visual Effect shortlist is out:

 

Alien: Covenant
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Kong: Skull Island
Okja
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planet
War for the Planet of the Apes

post #346 of 570
That’s a good damn list.

The trouble I have is separating great effects work from great design work.
post #347 of 570

My five would be:

 

Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
War for the Planet of the Apes

 

(I have not seen Okja or Shape of Water, so those could worm their way in once I do)

post #348 of 570

Having rewatched Guardians 2, the effects there are very impressive.

 

Except for stupid young Kurt. CGI young Kurt is the worst. 

post #349 of 570
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Having rewatched Guardians 2, the effects there are very impressive.

Except for stupid young Kurt. CGI young Kurt is the worst. 

Better than RDJ in Civil War, anything in Rogue One, or the worst, Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy.
post #350 of 570

The CGI of Young Kurt is fine. But you've got Wyatt Russell right there. Cast a person.

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