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post #201 of 232
I hated the first few episodes . . . should I give this a second chance?
post #202 of 232

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

post #203 of 232
And that is Freeman's Seal of Disapproval
post #204 of 232
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I hated the first few episodes . . . should I give this a second chance?

Yes. Its become quite good, actually.
post #205 of 232
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Yes. Its become quite good, actually.
Agreed. The episode where they go undercover on the hostile alien ship was a standout.
post #206 of 232
Yeah. MacFarlane is first and foremost a huge Trek fan and it shows. The later episodes have been relying less on the anachronistic pop culture jokes, which has been nice and there always seems to be a kernel of idea in every episode. More hit than miss, but solid enough.
post #207 of 232

I wonder if Brian Thompson's role in the last episode was just generic alien brute casting or if it was a sly reference to Miracle Mile. 

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The later episodes have been relying less on the anachronistic pop culture jokes, which has been nice and there always seems to be a kernel of idea in every episode. 

 

I'm enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would, but then again I've never been down on the concept. Odd that it feels as much like Trek as any of the actual Trek shows.

post #209 of 232
Yes its got a good vibe going, and it feels like there's a really good universe and cast it can grow into.
post #210 of 232
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I'm enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would, but then again I've never been down on the concept. Odd that it feels as much like Trek as any of the actual Trek shows.

 

Maybe it's because they're ripping off Trek episodes in lieu of doing something original?

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Maybe it's because they're ripping off Trek episodes in lieu of doing something original?

That man had a family. As God is my witness, he is broken in half.
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This last episode continues the maddening trend of having a good idea and making one glaring misstep in executing it.  Why in the hell did the doctor have to stab and shoot that guy?  Yes, he was keeping her locked in a room, but he rescued her from a crash site in a hostile environment and was giving her food.  I'm not saying he was a 100% good guy, but he wasn't some monster who needed to be destroyed either.  Hell, there was more compassion for the diseased cannibals who were going to eat her kids at one point.

post #214 of 232
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I argued that on another board, and the consensus against me was, that she was desperate to get to her dying child, and chose to murder her way to escape since diplomacy had failed.

Meh, I still say she could've just stabbed him in the leg to hobble him, or at least after the gutwrenching, told him to back off or she'll shoot. So yeah when at the end she tells her boy to just stun and not kill, it came off as highly hypocritical after she had just killed two dudes.

Hippocratic Oath? More like Hypocrite Oath!
post #215 of 232

Nah, that's dumb as hell. You're effectively saying that medical staff just have to suck it up and take whatever is doled out to them in a kidnapping situation. She was being held against her will, her kids were in danger, one was actually dying, she did nothing wrong whatsoever. She didn't have a stun gun, hypospray or some magically convenient KO option, just the weapons a (large and far stronger) guy had in his house. She did what she had to in order to escape then impressed on her son that if he can avoid killing, he absolutely should.

 

Doc Finn is a Good Mom, and Issac is a pretty good babysitter. Good ep.

post #216 of 232

i have to admit that I have watched some of these episodes and while it is just pretty much Seth Trek at this point, the one thing that I keep thinking is that all the ship sets look cheap as hell.

 

Now the ST:TNG enterprise did have a 'hotel' vibe to it design-wise, it still sorta 'felt' like a spaceship.  With Orville, I keep getting a mall/hotel vibe that borders on 1979 'Buck Rogers in the 25th Cent.'

 

The only thing missing is more spandex.

post #217 of 232
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Oy vay. Since my browser glitched and forced a reload, I do not feel like typing out my entire response again.

So Sentinel Red, tl;dr version, I disagree with you and think you're wrong. But its funny that this show is making us argue about issues like this. It reminds of some other science fiction series...
post #218 of 232

And I find you incredibly unreasonable for expecting a parent to just stay trapped hostage in a threatening situation with their childrens' lives in danger. If there was a guaranteed non-violent way out, I have no doubt she would have done so but the oaths doctors take should relate to the care and treatment of their paitents, not random abducters twice their size who lock them up 'for their own good'.

 

I just do not see at all how you can argue this in good faith. You are saying in that situation, you'd just chill out in your cell and hope for the best? RIP your kids, hope you're not too attached to them.

post #219 of 232
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Meh, I still say she could've just stabbed him in the leg to hobble him, or at least after the gutwrenching, told him to back off or she'll shoot. So yeah when at the end she tells her boy to just stun and not kill, it came off as highly hypocritical after she had just killed two dudes.
 

 

The notion that you can hobble someone by stabbing them in the leg or hold them back by threatening is pure television, it's the exact reason police are taught to shoot suspects at centre mass. The aim isn't to murder a person, it's to take them down and make sure they stay down, 'cos otherwise the situation remains extremely volatile. That goes doubly for when you're half the suspect's size, as the doctor was. She made the right call.

post #220 of 232
Spoiler: the characters made the choices they did because the writers decided it would happen that way.
post #221 of 232

And the writers aren't pretending that every situation can be resolved neatly. I like that.

post #222 of 232
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Sentinel, I love you bro, but where in my posts did I say that she should've accepted her fate and stayed put? The whole point of my argument is that she could've escaped without killing. The second guy she killed is whatever, since he was a crazy cannibal coming to chomp her face, but her captor need not have been slain.
post #223 of 232

I like how the show is able to get interesting guests to visit, this week Rob Lowe under heavy blue.

 

The makeup department is doing a lot of great work. This episode featured 2 warring factions with a trio of makeups in each group.

 

 


The karaoke host was interesting

and the elevator music guy was fun, hopefully that will be a continuing running joke..

 

and I gotta say, this looks interesting and possibly something I would try

post #224 of 232
Shatner to guest star.

Is what I hope to read, soon.
post #225 of 232
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*strums guitar*

"Top notch"
post #226 of 232
Not really a big fan of the latest episode. Felt like an earlier season episode before the show started finding its footing. I mean, the show is still a work in progress but this felt like a step back.
post #227 of 232
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This epsisode posited a good question. Would you rather fuck blue alien Rob Lowe, or get fucked by blue alien Rob Lowe?

Get to fuck!
post #228 of 232

Worst episode of the show's run, IMHO.  At least it had the opening karaoke scene and elevator guy to amuse me.

 

Just didn't think the "drugged into having sex with me" storyline was amusing. 


Edited by Overlord - 11/12/17 at 2:56pm
post #229 of 232
The karaoke and elevator stuff was good. Everything else was terrible.
post #230 of 232
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Originally Posted by Sentinel Red View Post

And I find you incredibly unreasonable for expecting a parent to just stay trapped hostage in a threatening situation with their childrens' lives in danger. If there was a guaranteed non-violent way out, I have no doubt she would have done so but the oaths doctors take should relate to the care and treatment of their paitents, not random abducters twice their size who lock them up 'for their own good'.

I just do not see at all how you can argue this in good faith. You are saying in that situation, you'd just chill out in your cell and hope for the best? RIP your kids, hope you're not too attached to them.

So we're a week behind, but I just wanted to add that I liked that the character has this edge to her as well. Yes it's the future, and she's a doctor, but she's no pushover, and things can get complicated.
post #231 of 232
Thread Starter 
That felt like the most Star Trekkie episode yet. One fear they didn't touch upon at the end was when the fake doctor was going on about invisible forces out in the vast void of space. Fear of the unknown, of what can't be seen. Which crew member did that belong too? When the crew were revealing which phobias were whos, was fear of the unknown/invisible a deleted bit, or just an oversight?
Edited by CD Underbelly - 11/18/17 at 7:40am
post #232 of 232
Yeah, felt Trekkie. Almost like that TNG episode where Crusher was trapped in the pocket universe that looked like the Enterprise and kept shrinking.

Best line...”hobo clowns are the most dangerous because their hungry.”

Liked this one, nice rebound from last week.
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