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Since much of the VIII discussion has bled into IX, I figured I'd get this one started.

 

While not my first choice (Vaughn ... *sob*), I really liked Force Awakens and am satisfied with Abrams.  Really glad it isn't Trevorrow.  

post #2 of 460
Vaughn is a non-entity director. I can't feel anything in his movies.
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Vaughn is a non-entity director. I can't feel anything in his movies.

 

Water under the bridge now.  

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post #5 of 460
I'm okay with this. The flaws in Forwakens were in the script, not in the director's chair.
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Yeah, well, he's writing it too. And the BvS guy is helping.

"Do you know what the oldest lie in the galaxy is? That fear is the path to the Dark Side."

Then Kylo tries to feed Rey a Jolly Rancher.
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Yeah, well, he's writing it too. And the Argo guy is helping.

"Do you know what the oldest lie in the galaxy is? That fear is the path to the Dark Side."

Then Kylo tries to feed Rey a Jolly Rancher.

 

Fixed.

post #8 of 460

I bet Lucas is sitting at home reading this news and smiling.

 

"I bet they miss me now."

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I bet Lucas is sitting at home reading this news and smiling.

"I bet they miss me now."

Lucasfilm and Disney don't miss him at all. With every controversial production mishap, the new films continue to spiral toward billions.
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I bet Lucas is sitting at home reading this news and smiling.

 

"I bet they miss me now."

 

Actually, Lucas is so tone deaf I could realistically believe this.  

post #11 of 460

"UNLIMITED POWER!!! BWAHAHAHAHA"

 

--J.J. Abrams in his swimming pool while he thinks no one is watching, probably

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GODDAMMIT

 

wait, why do I still care?

post #13 of 460
I still like TFA and Rogue One a bunch. As long as they keep making enjoyable films I'm still going to show up.

Discussing SW on the internet though...that I can do without.
post #14 of 460
"Tell me, do you bleed? You will (midichlorians)"
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BvS: Ultimate Edition?

So fucking good.
post #16 of 460

Being better than a bad theatrical version doesn't mean you're "so good." It means you're better than bad.  Mediocre at the absolute highest.

post #17 of 460
BvS Theatrical Edition?

Pretty good! With some faults that the UC fixes.

Also, Theatrical cut of Kingdom of Heaven is a rather iffy mess. But the DC of it turns it into a legit fantastic masterful proper old school Hollywood epic. Thus, I refute your spurious assertion sir!
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Kingdom of Heaven is not BvS.  It's not an insane mess.

post #19 of 460
Oooooh Kingdom of Heaven theatrical is absolutely a mess. Whole subplots character resolutions and even entire characters are completely ripped out. Resulting in nonsensical character motivations and people just disappearing from the movie for no reason. BvS' theatrical isn't butchered nearly as bad.

But yeah, Star Wars. Should be fun.
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KOH theatrical is fucking boring. BOOORRRRRRIIINNG. Which neither version of BvS is, in any way.

 

But back to THE WAR IN THE STAR: this will be.....aaiiiiight? My expectations have not raised with the change in directors.


Edited by MichaelM - 9/14/17 at 5:42am
post #21 of 460
Michael gets it.

I feel much better about Ep 9 now. Even as someone who thought Jurassic World was fine(if dumb) nothing about Treverrow excited me much and I was always hoping he'd get replaced. I still say TFA does way more right than it does wrong. And plays to Abrams' strengths really well.
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I think the best thing that can be said is that even if Abrams just reheats elements from "Return of the Jedi" and serves them up in December 2019, at the very least this will be a competent (if awash in lens flares and camera whips) production. Colin Trevorrow was probably going to be competent, too, but his output thus far is such a strange, deeply uneven collection of movies that "probably" is as far as I'll go. It always seemed odd that Trevorrow of all directors was going to helm the capstone to this trilogy. Abrams brings a sort of subdued, at times even tedious familiarity, but as Codename says above, "The Force Awakens" mainly played to his strengths. So to me it's a significant probable upgrade. I think Trevorrow is interesting and he seems to be trying to work out a bunch of ideas in his head, so good for him, but he seemed ill-suited to take up the challenge. He's wise to not burn bridges with any public statements decrying Kathleen Kennedy or Lucasfilm or whatever.

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I think the best thing that can be said is that even if Abrams just reheats elements from "Return of the Jedi" and serves them up in December 2019, at the very least this will be a competent (if awash in lens flares and camera whips) production.

 

That idea is kind of funny though in that Jedi itself has quite often been accused of reheating elements from Star Wars. So Abrams' ep 9 would be a reheated take on a reheated take on a film he's already done a reheated take on.

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That idea is kind of funny though in that Jedi itself has quite often been accused of reheating elements from Star Wars. So Abrams' ep 9 would be a reheated take on a reheated take on a film he's already done a reheated take on.

in addition to the fact that the multi-tiered finale of JEDI is something that plenty of summer blockbusters have already reheated again and again!

Including Phantom Menace!
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Independence Day reheated it several times in just one film!

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That idea is kind of funny though in that Jedi itself has quite often been accused of reheating elements from Star Wars. So Abrams' ep 9 would be a reheated take on a reheated take on a film he's already done a reheated take on.

Great point!

 

Those Death Star leftovers tasted like lasagna a long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...

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Oh god I just realised what the end of this movie is going to be.

 

Remember the original concept for Jedi, where there would be a whole fleet of death stars?

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Remember the original concept for Jedi, where there would be a whole fleet of death stars?
hahahaha ahahaha ahahahahahaha of fucking course.
post #29 of 460
and Independence Day pretty much had a fleet of DETHSTAs hovering over earth while the master DEATHSTA was the actual DETHSTA
post #30 of 460

...seriously?

post #31 of 460
I thought it was two Death Stars in the first draft, not a fleet.

Also, Obi-Wan comes back to life, so Obi-Wan spinoff as a sequel to IX!
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Lasagne.
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Touche! 

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I'm thinking Abrams will use the original REVENGE OF THE JEDI lava lake thrown room setting for EPISODE IX. It would make sense if it were under Darth Vader's castle on Mustafar.

 

http://bensbargains.net/thecheckout/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1004407_574143255970613_355802133_n.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/zdpruv4npvxeoyn3iqsp.png 


Edited by Barry Woodward - 9/14/17 at 10:08am
post #35 of 460
I'm telling y'all....just wait. Young Han Solo is gonna fly into a wormhole at the end of his spin-off and plop down right in the middle of Episode IX. So we get Han again indefinitely!

Hell....I ain't even mad!
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John Landis weighed in on the Lucasfilm firings.

 

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 “I have many things that I’m working on, whether or not they’ll ever become real, I don’t know. You know Joe Dante and myself and a few other guys I know are in the same position. They’re not hiring people who have opinions. They think, ‘He knows what he’s doing, I’m not hiring him!’ Look at Star Wars. They keep firing guys. Phil Lord and Chris Miller, those guys are really talented. They’re really funny and original guys. They shot 75% of the movie and I gotta tell you, it doesn’t speak well for the new Lucasfilm. How many directors have they fired? Four. How many writers? Twelve.”
post #37 of 460
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So long as Disney manages to avoid hiring directors who illegally hire children, proceed to hide the children from officials so they can have them perform dangerous stunts, ultimately get those children killed, then blame everyone in the world besides themselves for the deaths, then Disney will definitely have a leg up on Landis.  

post #38 of 460

No axe to grind there.

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I'm thinking Abrams will use the original REVENGE OF THE JEDI lava lake thrown room setting for EPISODE IX. It would make sense if it were under Darth Vader's castle on Mustafar.

 

http://bensbargains.net/thecheckout/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1004407_574143255970613_355802133_n.jpg

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/zdpruv4npvxeoyn3iqsp.png 


If it pops up in THE LAST JEDI, do people blame it on Abrams?

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So long as Disney manages to avoid hiring directors who illegally hire children, proceed to hide the children from officials so they can have them perform dangerous stunts, ultimately get those children killed, then blame everyone in the world besides themselves for the deaths, then Disney will definitely have a leg up on Landis.  


And also said director might want to have a chat with his son, who is currently writing 150+ page screeds about Carly Rae Jepsen and apparently doesn't know what a saxophone is.

 

https://twitter.com/vandroidhelsing/status/908412358766206976

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If it pops up in THE LAST JEDI, do people blame it on Abrams?

My new hope for LAST JEDI is that it's so, so weird, that even JJ's 100% glucose solution screenplay for the sequel is improved by just having to start from an odd handover point.
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If it pops up in THE LAST JEDI, do people blame it on Abrams?


Rian Johnson used that throne concept for Snoke.

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John Landis weighed in on the Lucasfilm firings.

 

He is not wrong. 

 

Also I must hear that Vincent Price story!

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It's probably bullshit, coming from Landis.

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It's probably bullshit, coming from Landis.

 

I've heard him tell the same stories with contradictory details. But I peg that to his age/time and less "He's blowing smoke!"

 

The only problem with his Alfred Hitchcock story is framing it around Dressed to Kill (released after his death). But do I believe they had that specific conversation? Yes.

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If it pops up in THE LAST JEDI, do people blame it on Abrams?

"Blame"? Like it's a bad thing?
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I've heard him tell the same stories with contradictory details. But I peg that to his age/time and less "He's blowing smoke!"

 

The only problem with his Alfred Hitchcock story is framing it around Dressed to Kill (released after his death). But do I believe they had that specific conversation? Yes.

There's no way he did stunt work on Once Upon a Time in the West, though. 

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And also said director might want to have a chat with his son, who is currently writing 150+ page screeds about Carly Rae Jepsen and apparently doesn't know what a saxophone is.

 

https://twitter.com/vandroidhelsing/status/908412358766206976

 

The bit he's talking about is the intro here:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeccAtqd5K8

 

Landis' description isn't an unreasonable one IMO. I honestly don't get why there's such a culture of ragging on everything that guy says or does. In my experience he's one of the less insufferable opinionated twitter people!

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Am I the only one who would like to see Rey and gang outside of the saga trilogy format in a series of standalone adventures?

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Am I the only one who would like to see Rey and gang outside of the saga trilogy format in a series of standalone adventures?

Yes.

In general and as always, yes.
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