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post #51 of 83
I'd be fine with self-contained non-trilogy adventures for those characters why not?
post #52 of 83
Honestly, I don't care what they do or how many of these things that they keep making as long as I keep enjoying them..
post #53 of 83

The tyranny of trilogies. The sequel trilogy wasn't mapped out in advance. It's a chain story. That's fine, but then why stick to the trilogy format? In this new cinematic universe paradigm, it makes sense to give the characters and story room to breathe.

post #54 of 83
Makes the box sets easier to put together?
post #55 of 83

I wouldn't mind if they did away with the episode numbering altogether and further blurred the lines between saga and standalone.


Edited by Barry Woodward - 9/15/17 at 1:01pm
post #56 of 83
A solo Finn or Rey adventure would be preferrable to the story of when the Death Star was a pimply teenager getting picked on in high school.
post #57 of 83

It would be weird to follow-up EPISODE IX with the further adventures of Rey, Finn, Poe and Rose and not have it be EPISODE X, and yet that's a more exciting prospect for me than getting them in another trilogy.


Edited by Barry Woodward - 9/15/17 at 2:41pm
post #58 of 83
Sooner or later....if they're wanting to keep this up indefinitely....which I'm sure they do, they're gonna have to leave the Skywalkers behind. Everything in this made up universe shouldn't keep revolving around these same people. Let it die with Luke and Leia (not like THAT) and Kylo. This isn't a necessity for me to keep watching and enjoying these things though. Once we see Luke back in action again there aren't gonna be too many things left to mine nostalgia from. And as someone who is absolutely ok with having their nostalgic feelings exploited....I would like it if there's a point where Star Wars moves past all that..
post #59 of 83
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which I'm sure they do, they're gonna have to leave the Skywalkers behind. 

 

Terry Brooks never left his main family behind in the Shannara books. No reason for Disney to do so when people seem quite ready to keep eating the same reheated meal over and over again.

post #60 of 83

For those that say Abrams is better at setting things up than finishing them, maybe this time that can work to his advantage. We don't know much about Snoke, but we do know this, he's a vampire, feeding off the galaxy's youth. The First Order has filled their ranks by kidnapping and brainwashing children. He corrupted Ben Solo and it makes sense if he's after additional Force sensitive kids. The end game for EPISODE IX should be about more than just toppling the First Order, it should be about the legacy of the Jedi. Maybe the best ending for this sequel trilogy is a new beginning. Introduce a new cast of young actors that can carry a Harry Potter-esque Jedi Academy series of films. Have Luke and Rey fight to rescue them from the clutches of Snoke and end the film with Rey training them on Ahch-To.


Edited by Barry Woodward - 9/15/17 at 4:09pm
post #61 of 83
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Introduce a new cast of young actors that can carry a Harry Potter-esque Jedi Academy series of films.

I like it. Keep 'em comin' Baz.
post #62 of 83

If Jyn Erso, Cassian Andor, Chirrut Îmwe, Baze Malbus and K-2SO didn't perish in ROGUE ONE, I would have wanted new adventures with them. These standalone films can act as pilots that can spin off into their own film series.

post #63 of 83
With you 100% on that one. Make mine MarveLucasfilm.
post #64 of 83

In much the same way, EPISODE IX can act as a backdoor pilot for a Jedi Academy film series.

post #65 of 83

These cinematic universes are essentially TV done on a much larger scale. That's why I think former showrunners like J.J. Abrams, Matt Reeves and Joss Whedon are such good fits for these productions.


Edited by Barry Woodward - 9/15/17 at 7:52pm
post #66 of 83
post #67 of 83

Poor Gianopulos. 

post #68 of 83

J.J. Abrams was interviewed during Michael Giacchino's 50th birthday celebration / career retrospective:

 

BBC Radio: Both of these series that you're involved with – STAR TREK and STAR WARS – they change people's lives, don't they? Little boys, little girls end up saying "That's what I want to do. That's where I wanna be.

 

J.J. Abrams: Well, it's certainly something that I'm aware of now working on EPISODE IX – coming back into this world after having done EPISODE VII. I feel like we need to approach this with the same excitement that we had when we were kids, loving what these movies were. And at the same time, we have to take them places that they haven't gone, and that's sort of our responsibility. It’s a strange thing – Michael's worked on things like PLANET OF THE APES and STAR TREK and STAR WARS, and these are the things of dreams. Yet we can't just revel in that; we have to go elsewhere.

post #69 of 83
Is JJ trying to grow up or something?
post #70 of 83

J.J. Abrams gave a talk at the Oxford Union and a fan got to meet him and Chris Terrio afterwards and pick their brains.

 

"In the official talk JJ gave before I met him, he said it was exciting that Rian Johnson's perspective on Star Wars has given him ideas that he never would have had before, and he said that his idea for the ending of the trilogy has grown a lot compared to how he thought it would end when he was writing TFA. After speaking to him personally, I really feel like 9 is going to be different from TFA in so many way.

 

They said that they're going to be brave and there will be big surprises. I got the impression that JJ felt like he had to refresh previous Star Wars moments for a modern audience in TFA, and now it feels like they have free reign to do what they want. Apparently they've had no interference from Kathleen or Pablo or the Lucasfilm Story Group. 9 is also the film which unites all three trilogies and brings everything together. That's all they would tell me.

 

I was surprised at how much freedom they have over shaping the canon. Apparently Pablo Hidalgo has given lots of information when asked to clarify details, but they get to decide what is canon for everything before and after Episode 9 (well, anything after RotJ onwards, as long as it doesn't contradict TLJ). Chris did say no one has changed anything so far, so maybe it's just that there haven't been any clashes with the previous canon in what they've written.

 

I worry a little bit that the questions I was asking were too leading. I was speaking to Chris and he was talking about the OT. I said about how I grew up with the PT and the prequels were my entry point into Star Wars. I asked about elements of the PT coming into 9 and Chris said about how 9 unites all of it. He said 9 definitely makes it feel like they're all happening in the same universe, and there would be PT elements in 9. They could be visual or thematic - he didn't overtly say that there would be returning planets or characters from the PT or anything."

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/77adp3/i_got_to_meet_jj_abrams_and_chris_terrio_tonight/

post #71 of 83
Lies.
post #72 of 83
Eh, I'm ready to be hurt again.

Star Trek and Star Wars have given me enough joy in my 33 years that I can roll with a few disappointments. If it sucks, well... I've seen some truly rotten Star Wars and Star Trek stories. I've also seen some great ones. Hopefully someday we'll get great ones again.
post #73 of 83
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Eh, I'm ready to be hurt again.

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post #74 of 83

J.J. Abrams couldn't resist returning for Episode IX, out in 2019.

 

"I had no intention to return, but when the opportunity presented itself to finish a story that we had begun with these new characters, to tell the last chapter of their story, it felt like there was a chance to do it in a way where we could go beyond, and do better than we did in Seven. I learned so much in that movie and I saw that this was a chance to sort of realize something that we hadn't quite achieved – and part of that was it was simply the beginning of these new characters and their story. The opportunity to sort of take what we had learned, to take the feeling of who these characters are and what they are and give them a final chapter that felt in the spirit of what we begun? It was too delicious of an opportunity to pass up."

 

Ridley cried when she heard Abrams was coming back.

 

"Everyone was saying it was going to be Rian and everything, so I was genuinely quite surprised, and was like 'Oh my God!' and I started crying immediately with three people in the office. And they were like, 'What the fuck just happened?' So I emailed J.J. saying, 'Oh my God I am crying.' And he goes, 'Oh my God, me too.' And then we had a conversation a few days later and we stay in touch. But we stayed in touch the whole time anyway."

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/features/star-wars-the-last-jedi-14-things-we-learned-w513392

post #75 of 83
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J.J. Abrams couldn't resist returning for Episode IX, out in 2019.

"I had no intention to return, but when the opportunity presented itself to finish a story that we had begun with these new characters, to tell the last chapter of their story, it felt like there was a chance to do it in a way where we could go beyond, and do better than we did in Seven. I learned so much in that movie and I saw that this was a chance to sort of realize something that we hadn't quite achieved – and part of that was it was simply the beginning of these new characters and their story. The opportunity to sort of take what we had learned, to take the feeling of who these characters are and what they are and give them a final chapter that felt in the spirit of what we begun? It was too delicious of an opportunity to pass up."

Ridley cried when she heard Abrams was coming back.

"Everyone was saying it was going to be Rian and everything, so I was genuinely quite surprised, and was like 'Oh my God!' and I started crying immediately with three people in the office. And they were like, 'What the fuck just happened?' So I emailed J.J. saying, 'Oh my God I am crying.' And he goes, 'Oh my God, me too.' And then we had a conversation a few days later and we stay in touch. But we stayed in touch the whole time anyway."

https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/features/star-wars-the-last-jedi-14-things-we-learned-w513392

Poor Rian frown.gif
post #76 of 83

Was she crying because she was happy to work with JJ again or sad to lose Rian?  We'll see in eight days.

post #77 of 83

She was crying with joy that the specter of Colin Trevorrow had been banished forever.

post #78 of 83

I dunno. Going from Trevorrow to Johnson to Abrams is like dodging a bullet only to discover that the drink you're celebrating with has been laced with a slow-acting poison.  

post #79 of 83

The only way JJ can make good on his threat to "tie all three trilogies together" is to make it about the Skywalkers. So Anakin is coming back (ugh) or Luke has a major role in the second the third movies. (eh).

 

OR.....it's a mystery box and the the new trilogy is about the new characters dealing with the fallout of the first two trilogies (what I want).

post #80 of 83

If the third movie in this trilogy has ANY mystery box Freeman's gonna pop a fucking gasket folks.

post #81 of 83
The death of Freeman would be based on his use of announcing himself in the third person first. The mystery box would just be beating the dead horse.
post #82 of 83

Freeman does not care for your tone, dinosaur scum!!

post #83 of 83

Super spoilers for THE LAST JEDI, but the film has been released outside the U.S. and I want to discuss what comes next.   Don't click the spoiler tag if you haven't seen TLJ or don't want all of its surprises ruined.

 

Like, really.  Super spoilers.  Even in the discussion below the spoiler text.

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Luke is dead.

 

Leia will presumably be dead.

 

Kylo Ren murdered Snoke, rejected his chance at redemption, and is now Supreme Leader of the First Order.

 

I don't think JJ was fibbing when he said he's writing the end of the Skywalker story - if Kylo dies, the last Skywalker is gone.  Are we looking at something like the original ending of RETURN OF THE JEDI, where the ghosts of Obi-Wan and Yoda joined Luke to fight the Emperor?  Yoda calls down a lightning strike to burn down the tree, so clearly ghosts still have power.  I could see a weird pseudo-AVENGERS moment where Luke, Yoda, Obi-Wan, and Anakin all unite with Rey to defeat Kylo.  You'd essentially have all of the major characters from every episode uniting to end the Skywalker bloodline.

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