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post #1 of 59
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So good.

Loved the recurring joke about waiving the confederate flag for any reason and how disinterested Sharon looked doing the show.

Not big on the Cartman stuff though.
post #2 of 59
It's good to have the old South Park back.
post #3 of 59

I was iffy on the white supremacist stuff, though I loved everything with Cartman. It was 100% the way you'd expect him to act the moment he realises his girlfriend isn't going to give him everything he wants.

post #4 of 59

I have an Alexa right by the TV, so this was a surprisingly difficult episode to get through.

 

I think my favorite moment was the guy waving the Confederate flag to cool his soup.

post #5 of 59

Pretty toothless stuff, IMO. If they want to go with the social/ political commentary stuff, fine. Then go all in. I mean, Alexa? This was one of the weakest season openers in South Park history (but to be fair, they're also coming off arguably the weakest season, so...).

post #6 of 59

I really enjoyed last season.

 

This episode... didn't quite land. Except Cartman loving Alexa and hating having a girlfriend who is her own person. As the coda to their "woke Cartman" storyline, that was perfect.

post #7 of 59
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I have an Alexa right by the TV, so this was a surprisingly difficult episode to get through.

 

I think my favorite moment was the guy waving the Confederate flag to cool his soup.

 

South Park messed with people's Amazon Echos and Google Homes

post #8 of 59
This was...alright?

I dunno, with shows like Bojack Horseman and Rick and Morty being gut bustingly hilarious and filled with really incredible writing...I feel like I'm kind of over South Park at this stage.
post #9 of 59
On the whole I still find SP funnier than Bojack or Rick and Morty but that was definitely not their strongest opener. I still find it absolutely insane that they make everything in 6 days. At this point they should probably start planning things out more because when they do you get something like the movie, which remains one of the greatest comedies in existence.
post #10 of 59
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On the whole I still find SP funnier than Bojack or Rick and Morty but that was definitely not their strongest opener. I still find it absolutely insane that they make everything in 6 days. At this point they should probably start planning things out more because when they do you get something like the movie, which remains one of the greatest comedies in existence.


But they've also been pretty adamant about how much that movie almost killed them.

post #11 of 59
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But they've also been pretty adamant about how much that movie almost killed them.
Huh, I never heard that, I only know that Team America almost killed them. I just can't imagine how having extra prep time could be any worse than being forced to knock out an entire script in 3 days.
post #12 of 59
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On the whole I still find SP funnier than Bojack or Rick and Morty but that was definitely not their strongest opener.

 

We need to bring back downvoting...

post #13 of 59

Truth be told while I love it I don't actually find Bojack to be very funny.

post #14 of 59

I dunno man. S4 Bojack was as hysterical as it was devestating.

 

Then again, I do find depression to be hilarious.

post #15 of 59

Other than being cartoons aimed at adults, Bojack and South Park aren't remotely similar. I don't find it difficult to enjoy both.

post #16 of 59
Tonight's episode was pretty great. Loved how they tied things together at the end.
post #17 of 59

Yeah, that was fantastic.

 

"INNOCENT CHIIIIIILD!"

post #18 of 59

The bumper cars... Lordy, the bumper cars...

post #19 of 59

Funny how it took them exactly one episode to break that "no Trump" rule everyone was bitching about.

post #20 of 59
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Funny how it took them exactly one episode to break that "no Trump" rule everyone was bitching about.

 

They had already clarified that they meant they didn't want to box themselves in to being the "What stupid shit did Trump do this week?!?" show that last season was.

 

Btw, I just love that this show took japanese homoerotic art of two ancillary characters and turned them into one of the better relationships on the show.

post #21 of 59
Much, MUCH better.

Good god, all those child deaths never stopped being hilarious.
post #22 of 59
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They had already clarified that they meant they didn't want to box themselves in to being the "What stupid shit did Trump do this week?!?" show that last season was.

Nah, what fucked them last season was building a serialized story on the presumption that Hillary Clinton would be elected president.

post #23 of 59

Yeah, that was a pretty fantastic return to form. If this means the season is going to be bottle episodes and none of that serialized nonsense, then I'm more than okay with that.

post #24 of 59
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Yeah, that was a pretty fantastic return to form. If this means the season is going to be bottle episodes and none of that serialized nonsense, then I'm more than okay with that.

 

They're still keeping some serial elements. Cartman's "romance" has carried over. Seems like they're aiming for a balance, and this episode was a pretty good shot.

post #25 of 59

The opener did little for me, but, yeah, "Put it Down" was very good.  Loved the songs.

post #26 of 59

"Happy Indigenous People's Day everyone. Suck my asshole."

 

Quality Randy-centric episode.

post #27 of 59

As much as I love Randy Marsh, I found this episode to be fairly middling.

 

*shrugs*

post #28 of 59
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I could not stop laughing at the Native American stuff. Especially when he brought over his parents.

Love me some Randy Marsh.
post #29 of 59

"We'll need to do an anal swab."

 

(pause)

 

(pause)

 

"Give me... three minutes."

 

That and the ad got me. And the indian in love. So maybe not a classic, but it improved my mood, so it's a winner.

post #30 of 59

Nice ep. Not brilliant, but nice.

That Zuckerberg voice thing - was that a play on badly dubbed Hongkong martial arts films? Or something else i didn't get?

post #31 of 59
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Nice ep. Not brilliant, but nice.

That Zuckerberg voice thing - was that a play on badly dubbed Hongkong martial arts films? Or something else i didn't get?

It was definitely a play on martial arts English dubbed films.

I took that bit of satire as saying that attacking people on Facebook and being able to block or unblock them is a new fighting style . Matt and Trey just took it one step further. Quite brilliant really.
post #32 of 59
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Meh...not a fan of this one. Outside of Butters wearing a suit and the Chaos helmet.
post #33 of 59
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Cartmans barbershop quartet was fantastic.

The loose farts were pretty funny too.
post #34 of 59

Damn, when they bring it, they bring it hard. That was great, loved the Killer Mike cameo.

post #35 of 59

They should've just gone full musical for this one. The songs were just INSPIRED.

post #36 of 59

I still enjoy the show, but I thought this Village Voice article on the show's timidity regarding Trump this season is good - https://www.villagevoice.com/2017/10/23/south-park-blinks/

post #37 of 59
They did a direct parody of Trump during the campaign and it had no effect. So far they’re trying to focus on the underlying causes that led to Trump and/or the effects he’s causing rather than get caught up focusing on his personality/quirks, which I think is actually a good approach.
post #38 of 59
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 They’ll take aim at priests who molest children, serial killers, rapists, self-affected pop stars and cynical politicians. But they draw a line when it comes to examining themselves, and that’s white American manhood in a nutshell.

 

That's a completely baseless criticism. I'd say South Park has had more self-examining stories than any show I've ever watched. They've also spent more time examining white privilege than any show I've seen.

 

They've even directly addressed the main thrust of that very article, in the episode where Tweek is non-functional with anxiety over President Trumpison.  That's them saying almost directly that they don't want to be a show that just reacts to the latest dipshittery out of the White House; we have the news for that. The article fails to support the argument that they -must- be that.

 

For good reason - trying to dictate where an artist takes their art (or a comedian takes their jokes) is a great way to strangle anything of value out of the work. Even if South Park were ignoring Drumpf (which they're not), we don't get to tell them what their show is about; we only get to decide whether we like it or not.

post #39 of 59
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That's a completely baseless criticism. I'd say South Park has had more self-examining stories than any show I've ever watched. They've also spent more time examining white privilege than any show I've seen.

 

They've even directly addressed the main thrust of that very article, in the episode where Tweek is non-functional with anxiety over President Trumpison.  That's them saying almost directly that they don't want to be a show that just reacts to the latest dipshittery out of the White House; we have the news for that. The article fails to support the argument that they -must- be that.

 

For good reason - trying to dictate where an artist takes their art (or a comedian takes their jokes) is a great way to strangle anything of value out of the work. Even if South Park were ignoring Drumpf (which they're not), we don't get to tell them what their show is about; we only get to decide whether we like it or not.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying! I find it pretty surreal that they chose their one fully serialized season (their 20th!), and it completely fell apart. I find it fascinating how comfortable they were going after Hillary compared to Trump, even last year.

post #40 of 59
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Eh...not a great one last night.
post #41 of 59

The witch episode had a montage fueled by Iron Maiden's "The Number of the Beast," so it's pretty much a ten out of ten for me, haha.

post #42 of 59

Amazing episode.

post #43 of 59
"That's...that's doorknob cum."
post #44 of 59

Cartman seething about Kyle as orthodox Jews dance around in his head killed me.

post #45 of 59
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Meh...I got bored with this one.
post #46 of 59

I continue to be impressed with how effortlessly they've been able to view current events through Cartman's toxic relationship with Heidi.

 

Heidi as a surrogate for Trump voters feels like something you'd have to create a brand new character to make work, but it's a perfect comparison. Over in the Trumpocalypse thread, it has been repeatedly suggested that people be more open and magnanimous towards the Right, and for 29 minutes it seemed like that's where South Park was going as well... 

 

But then Heidi eagerly embraced Cartman's anti-semitism as long as it absolved her of having to admit she'd been wrong. She's not a good person that has lost her way; she's a bad person being preyed upon by an even worse one.

post #47 of 59
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Now that was more like it. “She’s like a female Cartman that follows thru”.
post #48 of 59

I fucking love Nathan and Mimzy.

 

"Aw geez, Nathan. I don't think we should use a position of power to exploit women."

 

-WHACK- 

 

 

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Now that was more like it. “She’s like a female Cartman that follows thru”.

 

"Oh...bro...bro."

post #49 of 59

I like the standalone with a smidgen of continuity format that they've landed on. It's interesting the route they've gone with Heidi, I genuinely wouldn't mind an ep or two focusing on her and her group of friends, though I do hope she's back to the old Heidi by the end of the season.

post #50 of 59
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That was pretty great.
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