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post #1 of 35
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I urge everyone to watch this.

 

Which began as a juvenile hashtag of #whodrewthedicks has turned into one of the best, funniest, and most honest mockumentaries I've ever seen.

 

This series is the goods.  

 

post #2 of 35

Glad you posted that trailer, I was curious about this. Looks like fun.

post #3 of 35
Thread Starter 

It's not belly laughs funny, but it's consistently amusing, and full of great characters.

 

Plus it treats the subject with a level of seriousness and heart.  

post #4 of 35

Gave up halfway through the second episode. It's unfunny as all hell and another sign that Netflix has absolutely zero quality control.

post #5 of 35
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That's too bad you didn't like this. It's one of the best shows on Netflix in my opinion.

The teenage characters are believable and three dimensional. The teachers are perfect archetypes for the types that I had when I went to school. Especially Mr. Kraz.
Edited by catartik - 9/18/17 at 11:19am
post #6 of 35

At first, I really didn't like this, but I warmed up to it. I feel like a broken record when I say it goes on for far too long, but it was mostly pretty clever. I laughed at damn near everything Dylan said or did. The casting director that cast him is a genius.

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Also, that last damn driveway dick had no ball hair.
post #7 of 35
This was fantastic.

I loved that it plays everything completely straight. It makes Dylan being such an idiot that much funnier.

Don't expect a straight comedy but rather a compelling mystery with some funny realistic high school kids.

The one "cool" teacher was completely hilarious. Everyone had a teacher like that in High School.
post #8 of 35
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Mr. Kraz!
post #9 of 35

I just finished this and really, really liked it. It's a little too long and you shouldn't go in expecting a full blown comedy, but damn if I wasn't drawn in by the relationships. Really well done.

post #10 of 35

Binge-watched this today and came away really impressed.

 

I thought it was going to be more of a comedy than it actually turned out to be (that's not to see it wasn't funny because, in places, it certainly was). However, there was a lot more drama and, well, heart in this show than I anticipated. There's a moment, for example, where one of the characters sees footage of what other people have said about them and is completely devastated by how they're viewed, and it's played completely straight.

 

Really good cast of characters (Mr Kraz for the win!) and a surprisingly talented crop of teen actors playing the kids.

 

The show does a great job at mimicking the style of "true life" documentaries to the point that the mystery itself becomes incredibly compelling. By the latter half of the season as the documentary team started unearthing clues, I was completely caught up in the investigation and really wanted to know who had committed the crime and whether Dylan was as innocent as we initially believed him to be. It just goes to show that, whether it's a murder or someone spray-painting dicks on cars, a good mystery is still thrilling to unravel no matter the crime itself.

 

I hear this has done well enough for the people behind it to consider a sequel of some kind. I'd definitely like to see more from this team.  

post #11 of 35

This show is fucking great. It might be the best thing I've seen on TV this year.

 

Who knew that a show built around an extended dick joke* would also be one of the most pointed pieces of JINX/SERIAL style docudrama and a condemnation of the school-to-prison pipeline and a commentary on how certain students, from the feminists/activists to the burnouts, are labeled "difficult"? And that it would be one of the best teen-centered TV shows since Freaks and Geeks?

 

So fucking good. And funny as hell. I laughed a lot. 

 

* The show understands that there's something inherently funny in the phrase "27 dicks" and makes sure to repeat it just enough so that it stays funny. #whodrewthedicks


Edited by Boone Daniels - 10/1/17 at 1:06am
post #12 of 35
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Who knew that a show built around an extended dick joke* 

 

Goddamnit Boone, you never added a footnote for the * and I need to know what you were going to say about the extended dick joke!

post #13 of 35

Edited! 

 

#whodrewthedicks

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post #15 of 35
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At first, I really didn't like this, but I warmed up to it. I feel like a broken record when I say it goes on for far too long, but it was mostly pretty clever. I laughed at damn near everything Dylan said or did. The casting director that cast him is a genius.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Also, that last damn driveway dick had no ball hair.
There is a obvious reason for your spoiler. I mean it could go another way but it was done for a reason.
post #16 of 35

Between this and The Tick, I'm wishing we received more 30-minute episodes in seasons that are less than ten episodes. I find them infinitely more bingeable than, say, The Defenders with its longer run of 40 or 50 minute episodes, and there's a whole lot less flab on them. 

post #17 of 35

I started thinking of the line: "It appeared to be a Drake song, with the n-word replaced with "red team"" on the way to work today and started cracking up.

 

This show. So good.

post #18 of 35

Finished this a few nights ago and it is extremely well done. It's definitely more of a comedy drama than a straight up comedy but man does it go for it in terms of characters and premise.

 

Can't recommend this show highly enough.

post #19 of 35
I think it is really interesting how it gets you to laugh at Dylan’s stupidity for most of the run time, before flipping that and making you feel complicit in his inevitable downfall. It is a really clever piece of filmmaking.

For my money, this a much better piece of storytelling than either Serial or Making a Murderer. And unlike those pieces, actually honestly grapples with the effects of turning a crime into a piece of entertainment.
post #20 of 35
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 And unlike those pieces, actually honestly grapples with the effects of turning a crime into a piece of entertainment.

 

Yes!  I really like that it makes you re-assess how you feel about all of the kids at the end.

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post #22 of 35

YO: 
 

https://twitter.com/funnyordie/status/923579992562311169 

(Twitter teaser for season 2)

post #23 of 35

I'm not surprised, but this was fine as a one-off. I could even see a different subject matter from a different group. Bringing back the same "documentarian" seems like a stretch right now. If they find a lead as strong as Dylan, then I'm sure it will be fine, but I have my doubts.

post #24 of 35

I can't recall where I read it, but I do recall the showrunners saying that they would be interested in an anthology approach if they got a second season. I guess the problem is that the highschool setting played such a big part in what made both the tone and the scenario work. Still, the guys behind this show are obviously incredibly talented and so I don't doubt they could make it work. 

post #25 of 35

This is a weird show, where I just sit in silence most of the time except for about one big belly laugh per episode.  So far was the biggest was the asides when breaking down the text conversation about hookups lists.

 

"We can learn a few things here.  We know that Sarah Pearson has a hookup list.  We know there are 14 people on it, and Brad Cormack is doing well for himself.  We also know that Pat Micklewait isn't only on Sarah Pearson's hookup list, he's on Paige Davidson's hookup list as well.  PAT MICKLEWAIT!"

post #26 of 35
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This is a weird show, where I just sit in silence most of the time except for about one big belly laugh per episode.  So far was the biggest was the asides when breaking down the text conversation about hookups lists.

 

"We can learn a few things here.  We know that Sarah Pearson has a hookup list.  We know there are 14 people on it, and Brad Cormack is doing well for himself.  We also know that Pat Micklewait isn't only on Sarah Pearson's hookup list, he's on Paige Davidson's hookup list as well.  PAT MICKLEWAIT!"

 

The article I linked up above - here it is again - makes a very convincing case, once you finish, for PAT MICKLWAIT's involvement in the drawing of the dicks: 

 

http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/26/american-vandal-who-drew-the-penises/
 

post #27 of 35

I read that last night when I finished.  I'm convinced.

post #28 of 35
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I read that last night when I finished.  I'm convinced.

 

Today, I call you brother.

post #29 of 35
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Today, I call you brother.

 

It really is nifty how they get you to actually care about this silly crime as a legit mystery, with real pathos surrounding it.

 

Also, it's good that the producers realized that "who did the dicks" is funnier phrasing than "who drew the dicks".

post #30 of 35
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It really is nifty how they get you to actually care about this silly crime as a legit mystery, with real pathos surrounding it.

 

Yeah, and by the end, it's become more about the high school and these characters and their interactions rather than the extended dick joke at its center. The finale has some real, stark pathos - the ending, the break-up, the confrontation with Sarah Pearson. And it's such a smart decision to make it ultimately ambiguous as to who, in fact, did the dicks - both as a parody of the thing its parodying and also as emphasizing the series' themes. 

post #31 of 35
I don’t think it particularly ambiguous who drew the dicks - I thought it was pretty clearly Christa, which the creators confirmes a couple weeks ago was their intent - but the genius of the show is making it not matter who drew the dicks. It is ultimately incidental to the show’s themes and character development.
post #32 of 35

It's outrageous that this was one of the year's best shows but there are only 31 32 posts in this thread.

 

WATCH THIS SHOW, YOU SONS OF BITCHES

post #33 of 35

Yeah, but even if it was Christa, we don't fully learn who the second participant is. 

 

pat micklewait

post #34 of 35
I’m assuming they also don’t confirm the motive, which Peter has wrong even as he pretty convincingly fingers her in the finale.

(don’t be gross)
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I’m assuming they also don’t confirm the motive, which Peter has wrong even as he pretty convincingly fingers her in the finale.

(don’t be gross)

 

I'm pretty sure that the interviews I've read with the creators leave it ambigious as to the motive. 

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