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post #251 of 293

They've simply got to get this game into the Christmas Stockings or it's all over. Multiplayer games die out when their community dies out, and that dropoff is like a cliff. Servers become quieter, the only people you can play are the elites and you move on. Repeat.

 

By the New Year, the hardcore will be running around as Vader or whoever, and the game will have got a nice group of Skinner box addicts up and running... many of which know they can't spare the time or the skill to roll with those new characters. Then they'll be offered for x dollars a go. The outrage will be meaningless. The Christmas Cycle is this games peak time, after that, all the outrage in the world won't dent it's sales significantly as they'd already be dropping off. AAA games generally work on a first thirty days sale cycle I think.

post #252 of 293

There's rumors that it was actually Disney that forced EA's hand with this latest back-peddle.

 

With news like the Belgian government reviewing the games loot box progression system as a form of unregulated gambling, I'd be completely unsurprised if this turns out to be true. At this point all this negative attention is fucking with the Star Wars brand itself - and that's something Lucasfilm will simply not allow.

post #253 of 293

.@PrettyBadTweets Worry not. When thinking CP2077, think nothing less than TW3 — huge single player, open world, story-driven RPG. No hidden catch, you get what you pay for — no bullshit, just honest gaming like with Wild Hunt. We leave greed to others.

— CD PROJEKT RED (@CDPROJEKTRED)

November 19, 2017

 

 

post #254 of 293
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They put out an Art of the Force Unleashed book with a lot of good-but-unfinished artwork. It was weird

There was so nice art that came out of that game, just was a pretty crappy game is all. At most it just kind of feels like a half-assed tech demo for DDM and Euphoria, and it doesn't do much of a job showing either of those off.
post #255 of 293
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.@PrettyBadTweets Worry not. When thinking CP2077, think nothing less than TW3 — huge single player, open world, story-driven RPG. No hidden catch, you get what you pay for — no bullshit, just honest gaming like with Wild Hunt. We leave greed to others.
— CD PROJEKT RED (@CDPROJEKTRED)

November 19, 2017




Aragorn - "You have my sword"

Legolas - "And you have my bow"

Gimli - "And my axe"

CD Underbelly - "And you have my cash"
post #256 of 293
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CD Underbelly - "And you have my cash"

 

* The giant creepy eye of EA turns slowly to look across the lands at CD Underbelly's wallet *

post #257 of 293
Cyberpunk 2077 is said to have some big online component. I'd be a bit surprised if it doesn't end up having similar money making stuff as GTAV's GTA Online mode...which makes Rockstar and Take-Two a fucking mint.
post #258 of 293
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* The giant creepy eye of EA turns slowly to look across the lands at CD Underbelly's wallet *

Yeah, no. Bart, is that you? Bart usually does the *eye of* schtik.
post #259 of 293
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There's rumors that it was actually Disney that forced EA's hand with this latest back-peddle.

The Wall Street Journal is now picking those rumors up and confirming them. Disney's Head of Consumer Products and Interactive Media stepped in and started busting skulls.
post #260 of 293
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The Wall Street Journal is now picking those rumors up and confirming them. Disney's Head of Consumer Products and Interactive Media stepped in and started busting skulls.

So, I guess now even the most rabid haters have to admit something good has come of Disney owning Star wars.

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post #262 of 293
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The Wall Street Journal is now picking those rumors up and confirming them. Disney's Head of Consumer Products and Interactive Media stepped in and started busting skulls.

post #263 of 293

I'll swallow my gum if EA retains exclusivity to Star Wars games after Episode 9.  EA completely fucking blew it.  This is like New Coke bad.

post #264 of 293
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I'll swallow my gum if EA retains exclusivity to Star Wars games after Episode 9.  EA completely fucking blew it.  This is like New Coke bad.

 

Even if it was just another bland disappointment, like Battlefront 1, nobody would have cared.  You gotta REALLY screw the pooch to fuck up so badly that the goddamn parent company feels the need to rein you in.

 

Meanwhile, everyone that loved the old Battlefront games all say the same thing: if you had just given us a reskin of the original Battlefront series we would have been happy.  

post #265 of 293

Battlefront 2 physical sales down 60%

Belgium declares in game lootbox micotransactions as gambling.
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The minister of Justice wants to ban in-game purchases, if you don't know exactly what it will contain. "Combining gambling and gaming, especially at a young age, is dangerous for the mental health of the child.

The commotion started last week with the new game Star Wars: Battlefront in the the game you could buy so called "loot boxes", virtual boxes which could contain advantages for the game. You don't know however what it contains beforehand.

"The combination of money and addiction is gambling", ruled the gambling committee. VTM News brought the news and a few days later EA withdrew the function from the game, partially because Disney complained, which has the rights to the Star Wars merchandise.

Geens now wants to prevent that these kinds of funtions will be in any games going forward. "But that takes time, because we have to go to Europe. We will definitely try to ban it."

Now, if we could turn this lootbox outrage towards saving Net Neutrality, that would be great.

Damn the man, save Empire Re.....Net Neutrality!
post #266 of 293
perfect gif mongy!
post #267 of 293
Oh shit just got real. Fuck yeah Hawaii!
post #268 of 293

post #269 of 293

 

Even Ric Olie could see this was a bad idea, EA. RIC FUCKING OLIE!

post #270 of 293
OUR PROFIT GENERATORS HAVE BEEN HIT!!!
post #271 of 293

Hawaii Rep Chris Lee's reddit post:

 

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Chris Lee here - I'm the one in the suit. My staff just told me someone apparently found this youtube upload before we had a chance to finish putting it together, but I thought I'd leave it up and just post here to explain that this fight can be won if people step up. This fight is about protecting kids, protecting families, freedom from exploitation, and the future of entertainment in this country.

People are more powerful than they think. While we are stepping up to act in Hawaii, we have also been in discussions with our counterparts in a number of other states who are also considering how to address this issue. Change is difficult at the federal level, but states can and are taking action.

Even so, elected officials can't do it alone. They need your support and you can compel action wherever you live by calling and emailing your own state legislators and asking them to act. But don't stop there. Call your allies. Call your pastors and teachers and community leaders. Ask them to call your state legislators as well. Their voices are politically powerful.

I believe this fight can be won because all the key bases of political support across the country are on the same side. The religious community, the medical community, the education community, consumer advocates, parents, even many business leaders and local chambers of commerce. This is a fight that unites everyone, even the most polarized conservatives and progressives. Doing something is a political win for Democrats and Republicans alike. And frankly, we don't need to change the laws in every state - we just need to change a few and it will be enough to draw the line and compel change.

These kinds of lootboxes and microtransactions are explicitly designed to prey upon and exploit human psychology in the same way casino games are so designed. This is especially true for young adults who child psychologists and other experts explain are particularly vulnerable. These exploitive mechanisms and the deceptive marketing promoting them have no place in games being marketed to minors, and perhaps no place in games at all.

Your future is whatever you make it, so make it a good one. You have the power to get involved and decide this and the choice is clear: stand up now, or let this be the new normal from this point forward.

post #272 of 293
Ohhhh boy, if this catches on it's gonna be capital-F Fun watching the sleazy underbelly of the AAA gaming industry lose their shit.
post #273 of 293

and basically the entire mobile gaming industry as we know it

post #274 of 293

Fuck EA.  Teaching kids to gamble (SW) and grinding people into the ground (FIFA)

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-11-21-fifa-18-players-speak-out-over-futs-gruelling-weekend-league 

post #275 of 293
Wow, seems 2017 is the year of predators getting outed.
post #276 of 293
Good.

More than the Hawaii rep (but great on him for saying that), it's the Belgium reactionwhich may have the best outcome. If the EU bans lootboxes, that system is fucking done. Not microtransactions themselves but this form of gambling at least.
post #277 of 293

Yeah, interesting moves. Straight up putting an 18+ restriction on the games will murder them, they wouldn't dare ship a title like this under that banner, though it won't stop the practice happening in things like CoD and Red Dead. Any game with a lootbox mechanic (Destiny, Diablo) in it will be outright stopped from having any mechanism where you can buy currency.

 

It's likely microtransactions will shift to straight purchases, which are still annoying, but at least you know what you are getting and how much it will cost. I for one will not mourn the loss of the lootbox.

post #278 of 293

Between BF3 and BF4 for PS3, 360, PS4 and PC, with all the map DLCs and the air vehicle short-cuts, that's easily $400 / $500 on two games.  I guess that makes me a "whale" - I played about 1000 hours of BF3 and BF4 over five years or so at 50 cents an hour I have no regrets.

 

Technically I spent $100 on SWBF1 because I bought a launch copy, sent it to a friend after a few months, then bought copies for me and a kid's friend when the complete game was like $20.

 

I've spent zero dollars on SWBF2.  If they're smart they'll abandon game-boost lootboxes, and I'll buy the game when it's $30 or so.  We'll see.

post #279 of 293

I have totally reached my breaking point with the following:

 

1.)Exclusive editions (I snapped when I saw Injustice 2 wanted 40 dollars to add, like, three characters ... I would have bought this on day one)

2.)Season's passes, particularly ones that basically complete the story (The Division) or add maps that should have been in the game originally and fracture the community (Battlefield 1, every other FPS)

3.)Anything that gates progression behind a payable lootbox mechanic.

 

 

I'm just not buying these games.  Either ever, or not for a year or two.  I just beat Division.  Well worth the 12 bucks I paid.  Would have bought it on day one if it didn't feel like they were just trying to bleed me dry every way possible.  

 

Plenty of other options out there.

 

On another note:  I'm still in the first town, but Divinity Original Sin 2 is shaping up to far and away be the greatest multiplayer CRPG of all time, maybe the greatest all time, period.  

post #280 of 293
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1.)Exclusive editions (I snapped when I saw Injustice 2 wanted 40 dollars to add, like, three characters ... I would have bought this on day one)

 

My Overlord, the Injustice 2 Ultimate Pass nets you all 9 DLC characters (12 if the Ninja Turtles count as 4), and 4 extra shaders, It also included 3 premium skins to turn The Flash into Reverse Flash, Cheetah into Vixen, and Captain Cold into Mr. Freeze, complete with unique voice work and fight banter.  Considering each Fighter Pack is $20 (each with 3 characters and a premium skin), or buying the extra characters individually is $7, $40 seems like a good deal.

post #281 of 293
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My Overlord, the Injustice 2 Ultimate Pass nets you all 9 DLC characters (12 if the Ninja Turtles count as 4), and 4 extra shaders, It also included 3 premium skins to turn The Flash into Reverse Flash, Cheetah into Vixen, and Captain Cold into Mr. Freeze, complete with unique voice work and fight banter.  Considering each Fighter Pack is $20 (each with 3 characters and a premium skin), or buying the extra characters individually is $7, $40 seems like a good deal.

post #282 of 293
Well, you made it sound like all you get for 40 extra dollars was 3 extra characters, when its a down payment for a lot more than that.

But thats why I said it seems like a good deal. Sure, I'd like the stuff to cost less, but as it is, you either spend $60 for buying the 3 Fighter packs at $20 each, or $63 for buying the characters individually, sans the the extra shaders and skins. So either way, $40 for the whole thing is the better deal.
post #283 of 293
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Good God. EA have done it AGAIN.

 

EA SPORTS UFC 3 - The Single Most Egregious Implementation of Microtransactions to Date

 

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 Every single technique, ability, fighter, and stat roll, is entirely acquired and upgraded through the loot box system. A brand-new player fresh out of the tutorials, can dump $1,000 into the game, acquire the rarest loot drops and immediately jump into online competition with a beastly custom fighter that has an exceedingly large health pool, vastly improved endurance, and substantially stronger strikes than the average player who simply pays the $60 price of admission. The higher the rarity of the item, the more significant the improvement overall. Pressing the square button to throw a punch at an opponent, quite literally the simplest and most obvious mechanic in an MMA game, perfectly exemplifies the absurdity of the microtransactions in question. A base level jab will do minimal damage to online opponents, however a fighter that purchases a loot box and acquires a five-star rarity level jab, will not only have a more efficient and powerful technique in combat, but will also be treated to a host of stat increases in all regards, making their player undeniably better in every scenario.

 

You can get a better punch out of a loot box?! Imagine if you were playing a Street Fighter arcade machine during the 90's and the guy you're playing against puts twice as money into the box, so his punches now do twice as much damage as yours.

 

That's fucking ridiculous.

post #284 of 293
Hahahahahahahahaha of fucking course.
post #285 of 293

They can't go out of business fast enough.

post #286 of 293
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Originally Posted by MrSaxon View Post


 Imagine if you were playing a Street Fighter arcade machine during the 90's and the guy you're playing against puts twice as money into the box, so his punches now do twice as much damage as yours.

(you want to use hadouken?)

 

(insert $1.00)

post #287 of 293

While we are still in the nascent stages, it would appear that "pay-to-win" is the proverbial straw that broke the gamers' backs.  

post #288 of 293
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Good God. EA have done it AGAIN.

 

EA SPORTS UFC 3 - The Single Most Egregious Implementation of Microtransactions to Date

 

 

You can get a better punch out of a loot box?! Imagine if you were playing a Street Fighter arcade machine during the 90's and the guy you're playing against puts twice as money into the box, so his punches now do twice as much damage as yours.

 

That's fucking ridiculous.

That sorta did happen with Mortal Kombat X where you could pay for one-button fatalities.

post #289 of 293
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That sorta did happen with Mortal Kombat X where you could pay for one-button fatalities.

Thats different, the match is already over by that point. A better comparison would be the ability to perfom an instakill Brutality during the match. You know, like you could do way back in Time Killers, for the price of admission.

"Legless Victory!"
post #290 of 293
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That sorta did happen with Mortal Kombat X where you could pay for one-button fatalities.

 

Which is doubly ridiculous since the Fatalities in 9 and X are incredibly easy to pull off. 

post #291 of 293
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I can't tell you how pissed off I am with the makers of Paladins right now. I actually prefer Paladins to Overwatch and have played it casually on and off since launch and, being a free game, it gets a lot more leeway than a game with a $60 price tag. I don't mind grinding for things in games but I do have a problem with systems like this, which are purely designed to FORCE you into buying lootboxes with real money because the grind is so ridiculous. If I like your game and am given the choice, I'll probably throw some money your way. Don't essentially put a gun to my head and tell me to keep spending otherwise I'm just cannon fodder for everyone else.

 

I'm deleting the game off my system until they've resolved this. There's no way they can let this new system go live as it is, given the outcry from the community. Hell, even the Christian Post is reporting on this. As much as it amuses me to see Paladin's loot boxes mentioned alongside stories involving the Tomb of Christ and declining born again Christians, I think it shows how far the loot box controversy has reached the mainstream. 

 

 

post #292 of 293

yep, that announcement only came about because of the outrage, they will certainly turn the

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I can't tell you how pissed off I am with the makers of Paladins right now. I actually prefer Paladins to Overwatch and have played it casually on and off since launch and, being a free game, it gets a lot more leeway than a game with a $60 price tag. I don't mind grinding for things in games but I do have a problem with systems like this, which are purely designed to FORCE you into buying lootboxes with real money because the grind is so ridiculous. If I like your game and am given the choice, I'll probably throw some money your way. Don't essentially put a gun to my head and tell me to keep spending otherwise I'm just cannon fodder for everyone else.

 

I'm deleting the game off my system until they've resolved this. There's no way they can let this new system go live as it is, given the outcry from the community. Hell, even the Christian Post is reporting on this. As much as it amuses me to see Paladin's loot boxes mentioned alongside stories involving the Tomb of Christ and declining born again Christians, I think it shows how far the loot box controversy has reached the mainstream. 

 

 

sounds like if you play ranked your cards are automatically level 3. But that would certainly turn me off that game. I used to play a f2p shooter called warface where they kept releasing better and better p2w guns til they kiled their own community. 

post #293 of 293
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Yeah, Ranked Play is fine but Casual play is where people go to test out the new characters and, well, as a casual player it was the only part of the game I used. Now, I'm pretty much forced to use Ranked Play for a fair game which is stupid. 

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