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post #51 of 61
I liked this. It was paced like a 10-part miniseries (how long was the first edit??), but still good on the hole.*

*anal joke

Can we petition the Supreme Court to outlaw any future licensing of "Country Roads"? Vaughn's needle drops have always strained me, going back to 'Gimme Shelter' in Layer Cake.

It seems like part of Vaughn still aspires to be the slightly less annoying version of Guy Ritchie. I guess I can't really fault him for that, since this was good, and King Arthur was cinematic pancreatitis. His method gets results.

The worst aspect was definitely the baby-boomer/geriatric targeted cameo highjinks of Sir Elton. I guess the test audiences must have laughed every one of the 20 times he said the f-word?

Bitching aside, it was a fun slice of wackiness. Bring a thermos of coffee in with you to perk up before the 5th act climax.
post #52 of 61
I enjoyed the heck out of this. If there's a just god we'd get 5 of them or so, in which case this would feel like a delightfully comfortable 2nd chapter. Tatum wasn't wasted, he was teased for a clearly much larger role in Chapter 3. Moore was wonderful. Merlin's farewell was heartbreaking but well done. Firth as action hero is still so ridiculous it works, and I liked that he didn't just come back fully intact from the get-go.

Having Tilde not be a throw-away Bond girl the hero gets to bang from the first film but instead be his partner and then wife, was exactly the kind of trope inversion that works in a movie like this. The "you've got to place the tracker on a mucus membrane" was...icky, which was kind of the point. The Statesmen were a hoot. Needed more Bridges. Needed less Elton. Fuck that little one-armed rich boy. Losing Roxy was shitty and unnecessary - but if you can bring Harry back, this series can do anything. Hope to see her again, especially now that we've lost Merlin.

Consider for a moment the landscape of films we're getting, and Kingsman 2 is a fun action film with some genuine laughs, an earned R-rating, and 3+ leads who ooze charisma. I'd watch Eggsy in anything he wants to do going forward.

All in all, I loved it.


ETA: What didn't I love? The "legalizing drugs is something an evil villain proposes" plot. When the first film was "Humans are ruining the environment, so I guess WE ALL NEED TO DIE right liberals?" It makes for 2 films whose politics are inscrutable, and more than a little uncomfortable. When any plot McGuffin would do for these films, these are 2 very specific choices that are curious to say the least. At least to my eyes.
post #53 of 61

 This movie is a lot of fun, however it does drag in the middle. The movie lost me a bit when they went to The Statesmen HQ and found Harry. The subplot about getting Harry to be his old self slowed the movie down and it didn't pick up again till Italy. For as much as I like Firth in the role, I think its possible the movie could have been just as good, maybe even better, if Roxy played that role. It would have at least removed the scenes that I thought slowed the movie down.

 

  Moore was fun in this movie. I enjoyed her chipper demeanor as she did horrible things. Her plan did have a sense of logic to it; the drug war has failed, so why not admit you loss and make a ton of tax revenue.

 

   The action scenes in this are outstanding. Whiskey single taking out all the henchman in Italy was great. Framing part of it in the background while Harry and Eggsy argue in the foreground was clever. The opening car chase was wild. Scoring the fight inside the cab to Lets Go Crazy was a nice touch. While I do think its possible the movie could have been better if Roxy had played the role that Harry did, seeing Harry and Eggsy team up during the climax was a blast.

 

  I did like that Whiskey's heel turn had a legit reason. Its easy to see how from his point of view that he was doing the right thing.

 

   Elton John's cameo never failed to crack me up. "Fuck you Poppy!"

 

   I thought the eyes on Poppy's robot dogs looking like a Cylon's was a nice touch.

 

  Like I said its not as good as the first and its a bit of a bore, but its still a lot of fun.

post #54 of 61
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Originally Posted by Kyle Reese View Post

The worst aspect was definitely the baby-boomer/geriatric targeted cameo highjinks of Sir Elton. I guess the test audiences must have laughed every one of the 20 times he said the f-word?

I dunno, my crowd was eating him up, and it looked like mostly people around my age (20 - 40). The biggest pop was when he saved Harry and "Rocket Man" blared. People loved it.
post #55 of 61

mcnooj, that is just about exactly how I felt about the movie as well.

 

I felt like I had to see this on the big screen. I don't think anything in this really matched the church scene from the first movie, but that's ok I guess. This is also the second movie of the year that a Brit has had the best action sequence in the beginning of the movie (Baby Driver). And gosh did I love this movie's opening sequence. I loved the way it was filmed -- Vaughn has really perfected his camera movements for that close-up, kinetic stuff. If the movie didn't open with that this would have been a tough one to watch. It got me so pumped, it nearly took the whole movie to deflate that.

post #56 of 61
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Originally Posted by CD Underbelly View Post


I dunno, my crowd was eating him up, and it looked like mostly people around my age (20 - 40). The biggest pop was when he saved Harry and "Rocket Man" blared. People loved it.


That work for me as well.

post #57 of 61

Elton John was absolutely the MVP of the movie.  His slow mo flying kick (while all decked out in full glam outfit) absolutely brought down the house.  Him saving Harry (because the dogs wouldn't kill him) was also a great moment.

post #58 of 61

His offering Harry anal sex if he saved the world was funny, I'll admit.

 

Everything pertaining to John worked. It was just... everything else that turned me off.

post #59 of 61

So this is the second movie with Channing Tatum in 2017 that prominently features "Take Me Home, Country Roads."

 

Never saw the first movie, but saw this yesterday. Silly fun. That's about all I've got.

post #60 of 61

I wanted to love the hell out of this but I was not feeling it at all.  I think bringing back Harry was the ultimate problem, he was the best part of the original so it makes sense to get him back if possible.  But bringing him back left less room for newcomers like Whiskey or even some Jeff Bridges action.  Especially galling was Roxy getting taken out right off the bat, she was kind of sidelined at the end of Kingsman so I think Vaughn really missed a chance to give her something to do here besides helping Eggsy cheat his way through dinner with the in-laws.

 

Liked the Elton John reveal at first but they really let the joke go on way too long.  I could have done without his fight scene.  It's kind of sad but all that I really liked about the movie was Pascal, Moore, and the country cover of "Word-Up".

post #61 of 61
The R rating was mostly because of all the F bombs, but there was some good violence too. They'd have to remove some things for a PG-13.
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