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post #1 of 75
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Tomorrow Nite. Gosling. Yay?

 

This is a sad tale:

 

Losing the part

How Darrell Hammond, SNL’s best impressionist ever, found life after Trump

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/style/2017/09/27/darrell-hammond-was-snls-best-donald-trump-and-its-best-impressionist-ever-so-what-went-wrong/?utm_term=.212d19ab071a

 

"Just as Michaels had found magic in Kate McKinnon’s Hillary Clinton, he wanted to capture the new Trump — the nasty-tweeting, “Access Hollywood” bully. Former SNL head writer Tina Fey suggested Baldwin, her old “30 Rock” co-star.

 

 

“I needed another force, on an acting level, to have the power that Trump was embodying then,” Michaels says. “The Darrell Trump . . . it wasn’t the Trump that had gotten darker. It was the Trump from ‘The Apprentice.’ ”

Hammond did not take the news well. It was all his girlfriend could do to get him back to his apartment.

 
“I just started crying,” he says. “In front of everyone. I couldn’t believe it. I was in shock, and I stayed in shock for a long time. Everything wiped out. The brand, me, what I do. Corporate appearances canceled. It was a hell of a shock, and all of it was apparent to me in one breath. That ends me.”
 
I get Lorne's thinking, but I think the Baldwin impression has been a bust.  Still fails to capture darkness. And shies away from getting mean.
post #2 of 75

I'm not a fan of Baldwin's Trump, but Darrell Hammond is a fuckin' lunatic.

post #3 of 75
I like the guy on The President Show.
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post #5 of 75
Actually a good episode overall. But was it me or did it seem like they were breaking character and laughing a lot more than usual? Usually it’s only this bad when Fallon is there.
post #6 of 75

Lots of breaking, and lots of prop malfunctions.

post #7 of 75

Gosling broke a lot last time too.  It's... sort of endearing?  Guest stars can get away with it with me, I guess.

 

Solid episode.  The Avatar sketch was good, the alien abduction callback was funnier the first time but still fine and the chicken romance was just weird enough to work.

post #8 of 75

The Avatar sketch is such a weird premise that seems like it shouldn't work, but it does - partially because Gosling totally commits.

 

"I KNOW WHAT YOU DID!!!!"

post #9 of 75

That Avatar sketch is quite frankly, one of the funniest things I've ever seen on SNL. The closing "Papyrus" in Comic Sans was PERFECT.

 

And of course, Gosling. Totally sells it. 

post #10 of 75
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Gosling broke a lot last time too.  It's... sort of endearing?  Guest stars can get away with it with me, I guess.

I may have laughed more during the Alien abduction sketch because he was laughing. I mean he was laughing so hard he was shaking. It was great
post #11 of 75

This is probably the closest thread I could post this in, but I found a copy of the original broadcast of the Tim Robbins episode, complete with Sinead O'Connor tearing up the Pope photo.

 

Not only is that moment transcendent in terms of provocation, the performance is utterly stunning.

 

I was even more pleasantly surprised to learn how the episode is consistently balls-out hilarious: one skit has Robbins as Sweet Jimmy, the World's Nicest Pimp, and another as a Mister Rogers sweater-wearing, overzealous reverend who hosts a Christian music video show called Sunday Morning Videos that ends in him casually knocking Rob Schneider out of his chair. Another has Dana Carvey as Dennis Miller hosting a cooking show. There's a Quantum Leap parody where the Founding Fathers have to answer questions about their misgivings when they travel to the future.

 

But the best skit in the episode is Kevin Nealon's Larry King interviewing Robbins as a bloated, drugged-out Brian Wilson who cringes if a caller talks too loud.

 

It's a shame that controversy, 25 years later, overshadows what is a prime example of what made the show so good in the 90's.

post #12 of 75

So tall!

post #13 of 75

The Blind Date sketch actually caught me by surprise. Part of that may be that Kenan's impressions are so weak you don't know who he's playing until they say the name, but it worked to the skit's advantage.

post #14 of 75

Yeah, it seemed like the gist would be Gadot's character being out of touch with current pop culture.  You could hear the gasps of surprise when she called him OJ.

post #15 of 75
That and the desert mirage sketch were the only ones I liked. Although the cold open was great. The rest of the show was meh. Even Ginsburg during update felt flat.
post #16 of 75
The Kellyanne Conway/IT short was pretty good...great actually. And I liked McKinnon’s reactions in the nursing home sketch but the rest...meh. Even the Baldwin/Trump stuff seems to be wearing thin.
post #17 of 75

Kumail deserved better material.  I'd say he's just not a great sketch performer, but several of the regular cast were stumbling over lines too, and he has done the customer service thing to hilarious effect on Portlandia multiple times, more so than either the hotel or call center bits.

post #18 of 75

The Hep A and Gonorrhea skits were both painfully bad.

post #19 of 75

"Would you be happier if I told you the answer is 'no'?"

 

"Yes, actually!"

 

"...I see."

post #20 of 75

The nursing home sketch was alright, thanks in large part to McKinnon's silent mugging.

post #21 of 75
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Mixed bag of a show, but that's to be expected at this point.

 

Larry David on this teen produced home room access show as the 'gossip expert', who goes from cute, to inappropriate, to luridly out of bounds was so inspired. I was rolling at the 'Christine is taking birth control pills' because 'so and so doesn't like to use condoms'. And then instead of pushing it, sketch just stopped dead.

post #22 of 75
Thread Starter 

OF COURSE people are offended by David's monologue.

 

I thought it was a fascinating tightrope walk between hilarious audacity and outright disaster.

post #23 of 75

Albert Brooks is the only comedian to succeed at making 'anti-comedy' funny to non-comedians.

post #24 of 75

I actually liked David's monologue. 

 

Every Boxer's Girlfriend was a strong newbie showcase for Heidi Gardner.  

post #25 of 75
Yeah, I thought the monologue was fine. The skits were alright. I fucking hate their music videos, though. I can’t think of a good one some Samburg left the show. The Huck Sanders and Baby Steps were both cringe inducing bad. I know that was sort of the point of the Baby Astros one, but still just horrible. Also I think we’re at a point where the supporting cast is funnier than the main cast.
post #26 of 75

Maybe I'll circle back to the rest of the monologue. I fast-forwarded during the Quasimodo bit.

post #27 of 75
The Quasimodo bit was offensive in how hack it was. That's straight-up boat act material.
post #28 of 75
I didn’t watch it last week. Was it just a Halloween clip show or was it a real episode? Should I bother?
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I didn’t watch it last week. Was it just a Halloween clip show or was it a real episode? Should I bother?

 

It was the David S. Pumpkins animated special.  It was... okay.

post #30 of 75

The animated special wasn't any better or worse than a straightfaced holiday special. The song was clever.

 

They also ran a clip show. Best one was the broken theme-park ride featuring Taran Killam's exceptional "animatronic" pantomime.

post #31 of 75
Thread Starter 

Alec Baldwin Will Not Save Us

As faux-POTUS on “Saturday Night Live,” the outspoken actor’s shtick is a far cry from the Trump antidote we need

 

https://www.villagevoice.com/2017/11/06/alec-baldwin-will-not-save-us/

 

"The notorious champion of liberal causes can barely hide his glee at this turn of events, taking every opportunity to center himself in the story of Trump."

 

"The more I watch Baldwin stumble through his imitation of the president, the more I’m convinced that it’s not Trump he’s impersonating; it’s his own, worst self.""

post #32 of 75

Screw the naysayers. I'm a Baldwin apologist all the way.

post #33 of 75

My problem with Baldwin's Trump impression is that it's terrible. Throw in the writing of the current SNL staff, and... no thanks.

post #34 of 75

I was able to live with the Baldwin Trump impression.  It was...okay.  It was a pretty standard, run of the mill, one note SNL President impersonation.

 

 

 

Then he had to go and steal the Best Supporting Actor in a Comedy Emmy from much more deserving actors. Matt Walsh and Tony Hale on Veep.  Louie Anderson on Baskets.  Titus Burgess on Kimmy Schmidt.  Hell, even Ty Burrell on Modern Family was more deserving, and I hate that show!  And what about who was not nominated?  Andre Braugher from Brooklyn 99.  TJ Miller, Martin Starr, or Kumail Nanjiani from Silicon Valley. Desmin Borges on You're the Worst.  Hell, even that kid who plays Big Tasty in The Goldbergs had a more nuanced performance.  That win was nothing more than the voters saying "We hate Trump and like someone making fun of him."  Hey, I hate Trump too, but that win was an insult to every other TV comedy actor out there doing a real performance week in and out.  You voted for a dude who comes in, puckers his lips and phones it in for 8 minutes a week.  And for that I say fuck Baldwin and his Trump impression.

post #35 of 75
It was an insult to every other tv actor, but it was a much more direct insult to Trump, and on that basis I can’t fault it.
post #36 of 75

Anytime Baldwin's impression comes up, we'd be remiss to not mention Anthony Atamanuik: http://www.cc.com/video-clips/yyx9pl/the-president-show-the-president-s-tour 

He's so happy when he sees that fire truck!

post #37 of 75

None of the clips of The President Show I've seen have led me to think that Atamanuik's impression is any more technically impressive than Baldwin's.  But accuracy is not all that important for a comedy impression, really.

post #38 of 75
I prefer Atamanuik's take because in the sketches, he's not vamping like Baldwin and waiting for the applause to die down. He really has the awkward physicality down, too.
post #39 of 75
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None of the clips of The President Show I've seen have led me to think that Atamanuik's impression is any more technically impressive than Baldwin's.  But accuracy is not all that important for a comedy impression, really.

 

It's much more nuanced than Baldwin, who is basically impersonating Seth Meyers impersonating Trump. 

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It's much more nuanced than Baldwin, who is basically impersonating Seth Meyers impersonating Trump. 

I don’t think nuance is a necessary component of a good impresssion either. It’s mainly about finding a good hook, and then exaggerating it (arguably the opposite of nuance). Jay Pharaoh was a great technical impressionist, but he seemed to struggle with taking it fully into the realm of caricature that sketch requires. Dana Carver and Ana Gasteyer were masters at this.

Baldwin’s only hook is that it’s Alec Baldwin doing a mean impression of Trump, and that personally and obviously upsets Trump on a level that having Alex Moffat do it simply would not, regardless of how technically flawless the imitation was.
post #41 of 75
Haddish was great in the last sketch of the night. But the rest of the show was just meh...nothing really funny or terrible.
post #42 of 75

Haddish was clearly having a blast, which is always fun.  

 

Kevin Roberts was a really good, original sketch.  The SWAT stakeout may have been the best version of it, even though David Pumpkins got the biggest reception basically any sketch could hope for.  With Boo Boo Jeffries, though, it's really time to put a fork in it.  That premise is especially vulnerable to repetition diminishing the returns, because it highlights how manufactured the absurdist details that are the entire source of the humor are.

 

Conversely, if they want to do an endlessly recurring series of sketches about jerking off dolphins, I'd be fine with that.

post #43 of 75
Thread Starter 

Every now and then you get a host that is such a natural fit for what SNL is supposed to be. She would totally rule the show if a cast member:

 

"History making & hilariously planting her flag, @TiffanyHaddish last night showed @nbcsnl what they've been missing"

 

Tiffany Haddish Makes History On ‘Saturday Night Live’, Saves The Season

by Greg Evans
 

November 12, 2017 5:41am

 

http://deadline.com/2017/11/tiffany-haddish-saturday-night-live-monologue-1202206519/

 

"Tiffany Haddish made Saturday Night Live history last night by becoming the first black female stand-up comic to host the show in its 43 seasons – unpack that statistic for a moment – and she grabbed the chance with the room-working skills and confidence of the star she knows she is. Anyone who didn’t see Girls Trip now knows, too.

 

After a disappointing cold open, Haddish pumped big energy into the show – and the season – that’d been short on it.

She got the introductions out of the way quickly and winningly, mentioning that blockbuster summer hit while wondering where her cut of the profit was. “I googled myself – it said I’m worth $2 million! What do I need to do to get this money? Fake my own death? Tupac this sh*t and move to Tyler Perry Island?”

 

Then she backtracked for some deep bio. “I grew up in foster care,” she said. “So I want to thank anyone who paid taxes between 1990 and 1999.” Living in group homes with mostly black and Hispanic kids wasn’t an easy thing come 11:30 on Saturday nights, she said.

 

“Trying to convince them that Dana Carvey was just as funny as Damon Wayans was a problem. I got stabbed twice, in a bunk bud.”"

 

 

post #44 of 75
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Haddish was clearly having a blast, which is always fun.  

 

Kevin Roberts was a really good, original sketch.  The SWAT stakeout may have been the best version of it, even though David Pumpkins got the biggest reception basically any sketch could hope for.  With Boo Boo Jeffries, though, it's really time to put a fork in it.  That premise is especially vulnerable to repetition diminishing the returns, because it highlights how manufactured the absurdist details that are the entire source of the humor are.

 

Conversely, if they want to do an endlessly recurring series of sketches about jerking off dolphins, I'd be fine with that.

 

Aww man, I laughed so hard at the Boo Boo Jeffries skit.  Her "Rihanna! Rihanna!"  "Beyonce! Beyonce!" killed me.  Like literally.  I'm writing this from the grave.

post #45 of 75

I mean, it's a fine sketch on its own, but having seen it play out 4 times over the last couple seasons really highlights how formulaic the construction is, when the basis for the humor is "LOL so random!".

post #46 of 75
I fail to see how she “saved the season.”

I thought the whole episode was the usual mediocre SNL.

I did like her energy though. And that dress.
post #47 of 75

High point of this week was Cecily Strong as the HR rep.

 

Second place: Cecily Strong as Dianne Feinstein. Who even does a Feinstein?

post #48 of 75

I was really impressed with Chance the Rapper.  I can see him hosting again and again.

 

The Batman sketch was awesome.

post #49 of 75
“Come back Barack” was just great.
post #50 of 75

Yeah, Chance was really impressive.  The hockey commentator sketch was the most impressive to me, when you take into account how infrequently they hang an entire sketch on 1) a host's performance, 2) much less a first time host, 3) much less a musician host, 4) that is not a music-based sketch.  And it was actually really good!

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