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It's almost time, y'all!

 

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Who are your guys this year? My passionate rooting interests are still ROX + Clips, but N.O. is intriguing.

 

My Top 5 Favorites:

 

1. Rockets - I never waste my time watching preseason, you can't gage how things are going to play out for most part. I still have hopes of CP3 and Beardforce blending like Clyde and Black Jesus

 

2. Clips - I was down in the dumps that Lob City era was over, but I'm hyped for this European vet they got - Miloš Teodosić. He looks like what Rubio was supposed to be.  I'm going to miss my guy J Crossover, but I think Sweet Lou is going to be more effective than he and J.J.

 

3. Pelicans - I'm an old school believer in the Twin Tower concept. I'm super curious how this mix plays. Word is Boogie is in monster shape for contract year.

 

4./5 - Bucks/ T-Wolves - will these 2 teams take a big step up?

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LaMarcus Aldridge has agreed to underperform for three additional seasons with the Spurs.

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Who are your guys this year? My passionate rooting interests are still ROX + Clips, but N.O. is intriguing.

 

My Top 5 Favorites:

 

1. Rockets - I never waste my time watching preseason, you can't gage how things are going to play out for most part. I still have hopes of CP3 and Beardforce blending like Clyde and Black Jesus

 

2. Clips - I was down in the dumps that Lob City era was over, but I'm hyped for this European vet they got - Miloš Teodosić. He looks like what Rubio was supposed to be.  I'm going to miss my guy J Crossover, but I think Sweet Lou is going to be more effective than he and J.J.

 

3. Pelicans - I'm an old school believer in the Twin Tower concept. I'm super curious how this mix plays. Word is Boogie is in monster shape for contract year.

 

4./5 - Bucks/ T-Wolves - will these 2 teams take a big step up?

I always get a chuckle when I think about how much we both love hoops, and how it seems we view players and teams from polar opposite positions. 

 

Here's to another fun season, I would say good luck, but I am rooting against your top 2 teams. I am really hopeful to see the Pelicans work though, be nice to have a completely different approach be a threat. 

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Wow. That might've been the worst basketball injury I ever watched live. What a shame. The reaction of the players was actually moving.

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Absolutely horrific.
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I'm reminded of as a kid hearing about Bernard King took the wind out of my sails. You hate this kind of thing so much.

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God. DAMN.
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ugh, that was nasty. 

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Left to right, The 5 kinds of fan reactions:

 

1) Holy shit!

 

2) I gotta call my bookie.

 

3) I can't look!

 

4) I can't look either! (Well, maybe just a peek)

 

5) I wonder if that girl tied up in my basement is doing ok?

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Your avatar is also a valid reaction!
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Yeah, I had intended it only as a quick joke, but it's creating some great synergy with my posts!

 

Of course, most of my posts are in the Trumpocalypse thread, so it's pretty perfect for reactions there...

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Nick Young. Oh hell yes.
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Nick Young. Oh hell yes.

Lol, his defense is hilarious, only reason Rockets are within 20. Just wait til his shot is not on.

 

Chris Paul a negative 22 in the first half. This is a terrible fit. 

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Nick Young is the kind of super flakey player that's fun on a great team.

 

Rough and rocky first half for my guys, but with new mix things sometimes take time.

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Love seeing the Warriors lose-especially like that.

Why did I have to see that break. Ugly.

Also weird to see so many Bulls/former Bulls trending. Rose, Wade, Portis, the team itself. Not bad for a 15
Win team on opening night.

Can the Cavs get any luckier? The one team that can possible beat them in the East loses one of its top 3 players for the season.
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Oh well. Warriors dropped opener last year to the Spurs. Turned out fine by season's end.

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Skip Bayless continues to be the biggest douche in sports 'journalism'.

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This is going to turn into an absolutely nightmare season for the Cs if Kyrie misses any significant time with injury.  I think they are still competitive for the 2nd spot in the east if they don't suffer any other significant injuries.  I was impressed with how they battled back in the game.  The silver lining to this injury is that the young guys have a chance to step and both Brown and Tatum looked good last night. 

 

I did think it was pretty telling that the Rockets went on their big run at the end of the game last night without Chris Paul on the floor.

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This is going to turn into an absolutely nightmare season for the Cs if Kyrie misses any significant time with injury.  I think they are still competitive for the 2nd spot in the east if they don't suffer any other significant injuries.  I was impressed with how they battled back in the game.  The silver lining to this injury is that the young guys have a chance to step and both Brown and Tatum looked good last night. 

 

I did think it was pretty telling that the Rockets went on their big run at the end of the game last night without Chris Paul on the floor.

yep, I have been saying since Dwight Howard was in Houston that Harden plus 4 guys who can shoot the 3, defend and run the floor is the best version of this team. Last night: Ariza, Mbamoute, Gordon and Anderson filled those roles to perfection. Of course GS was without their two best defenders, so I still think the Warriors handle the Rox when healthy. Worth watching if Chris Paul being a -13 for the night becomes a trend.

 

The Celtics are loaded with young talent. This is a great opportunity for Brown and Tatum to develop. My son and I both enjoy watching the way that team plays.......if they were not wearing green, we would be fans. 

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Molt: Watching Rockets vs Kings on League Pass

 

The Boogie trade was a disaster, but since then looks like Vlade has assembled a nice mix. They'll be bad, but watchable. And I love bringing in vets to mentor young kids. Fox could be niice.

 

What the heck is the Black Bear Diner? Is that a Northern California chain? They had a cool commercial.

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They're all over. Up and down the west coast. A quality purveyor of savory comfort food.

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Kobe:

 

 

 

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In other news, the Suns are to Basketball what Batman vs Superman was to filmmaking.
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Yeah, that is genuinely upsetting. Nets were gonna be lowkey fun to watch.

 

Embiid is an absolute beast, and if he can stay healthy, he will be the most dominant player since Shaq.

 

John Wall begins the stealth MVP campaign.

DSJ becomes the youngest player to ever debut with a PT-AST double-double. Still shoulda beat the Hawks tho, who the hell is even on that team?

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I've been thinking about this lately: this is the 10th anniversary of the C's KG era championship. I put them up with Wilt's '67 Sixers and the Dr. J/ Moses '83 Sixers as greatest single championship team. I feel like late 70's Blazers, only injuries prevented a repeat/ possible 3 Peat. Doc had them rolling before KG went down in '09, and Perk missing game 7 in '10 was the difference maker. So anyway, I was wondering who y'all think are the best champions over the last 10 years. Am I crazy to think that '08 C's are the only team that could've beat last year's Warriors? Or am I overrating them? I kind of geek out imagining the shoot out between Truth and Ray and the Splash bros... And the intensity of D of both teams would make for a battle. Green vs peak KG - how cool would that be?

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Draymond woulda got rolled up, lol.

 

2014 Spurs would  have dismantled whoever, doesn't matter. That was probably the most dialed-in Championship team of all time.

 

I always hate that the 2011 Mavs get dumped towards the bottom of the list, considering they navigated the single most difficult roster of teams out of anyone. I feel like people want to assign astericks to each team they took out, but guess what, you can do that to damn near ever matchup, in every round.

No Draymond, No KLove, Heat were immature, Heat were old, Curry was hurt, etc. etc.

 

I do think the 08 BOS-LAL matchup was the purest, in those terms. Unless I am forgetting something. I remember both those squads being at full strength, and can't think of any meaningful mitigating factors.

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Draymond woulda got rolled up, lol.

 

2014 Spurs would  have dismantled whoever, doesn't matter. That was probably the most dialed-in Championship team of all time.

 

I always hate that the 2011 Mavs get dumped towards the bottom of the list, considering they navigated the single most difficult roster of teams out of anyone. I feel like people want to assign astericks to each team they took out, but guess what, you can do that to damn near ever matchup, in every round.

No Draymond, No KLove, Heat were immature, Heat were old, Curry was hurt, etc. etc.

 

I do think the 08 BOS-LAL matchup was the purest, in those terms. Unless I am forgetting something. I remember both those squads being at full strength, and can't think of any meaningful mitigating factors.

Bynum was hurt in that series, did not play most of it or any of it if I remember right. 

 

And I know Bynum ended up being a punchline, but that kid was a force to be reckoned with in the 3 finals years. 

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Bynum was hurt in that series, did not play most of it or any of it if I remember right. 

 

And I know Bynum ended up being a punchline, but that kid was a force to be reckoned with in the 3 finals years. 

 

Hey 3, curious about your LA fan perspective: did you believe that Kobe team was better? I know Kobe talks that he shouldn't have lost in '08, but that's Kobe - and although you guys rolled Dwight's squad in '09- '10 is my clearest memory and I felt like the C's were going to win; they looked way more dominate in their wins. Even in game 7, where I believe Kobe was really struggling, but it somehow slipped away. Not as much of a stunner as Spurs losing on a Ray Allen shot, yet it still hurt. I want to say questionable calls were involved - League loves LA!- but that just may be old bitterness.

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Hey 3, curious about your LA fan perspective: did you believe that Kobe team was better? I know Kobe talks that he shouldn't have lost in '08, but that's Kobe - and although you guys rolled Dwight's squad in '09- '10 is my clearest memory and I felt like the C's were going to win; they looked way more dominate in their wins. Even in game 7, where I believe Kobe was really struggling, but it somehow slipped away. Not as much of a stunner as Spurs losing on a Ray Allen shot, yet it still hurt. I want to say questionable calls were involved - League loves LA!- but that just may be old bitterness.

I think the Celtics outplayed the Lakers in that series. I think a big part of it was something that the league has gotten rid of since then. The double foul. Back during that series and the playoff runs before, Boston became known for fouling and then commiting a second hard foul after the whistle (which was never called as a foul had already been called) to make sure that the opposing player did not get an and 1. It also delivered extra punishment on anyone who tried to score. When they tried to continue to do it against Miami is when I believe it was outlawed. 

 

The Celtics would only really do this in big games in the playoffs, and it was brilliant strategy, it took players out of their game and brought the game on their terms. The Lakers should have walked through the Celtics in that series talent wise. Bynum was a beast, Odom a matchup nightmare, Gasol a surgeon and Kobe had not yet begun his clear decline. The Celtics were at their last gasp, but fought valiantly. I did not see the Lakers getting the benefit of the calls in that series, but then I was not looking for it. It would be awesome to rewatch that entire series with an unbiased ref and see if they thought either team was given an unfair advantage. 

 

In regards to calls, I have seen games where the Lakers benefitted. The famous sacramento series comes to mind. But as a Laker fan who watches them night in and night out for decades. I truly believe Kobe got the raw end of the deal from the officials post Colorado. I see the kind of calls that guys like Harden get and it turns my stomach. I watched Kobe get butchered for years, everything from Bowen stepping under him on every jumper (now a flagrant) to Bell wrestling him to the ground at every opportunity. And Kobe just sucked it up and kept going. Basketball is a physical game, and all that stuff inlcuding Kobe's leg kick is part of the game if the refs don't stay on it. 

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Thunder look for real, game looks so much easier for Anthony and Westbrook. George still sorting through his place in the mix, but this is a deep and potent team. 

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This Clips team is SUPER fun.

 

My man BG lookin' good.

 

And yeah Pat Bev is my favorite player.

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that hurt my soul

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Never like seeing the Clippers win, but if we can knock off the whole fallacy of the "Upstart Lakers!" then that's an acceptable silver lining.

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I didn't watch a lot of the game last night, but I did enjoy Chris Webber going after Brook Lopez about his lack of rebounding.  I think he's exactly right.  I don't know how you can be 7+ feet tall, 250 lbs and get like 5 rebounds/game.  DeAndre just destroyed him last night.

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And we're about 3 weeks away from hearing the narrative about how CHRIS PAUL WAS ACTUALLY HOLDING THE CLIPPERS BACK THE ENTIRE TIME!

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PG needs to focus on being an elite wing defender who rolls to the basket from the weak side whenever Westbrook the Werewolf is slashing to the rim. If he can make that role work then I got money on OKC.

 

I don't think Chris Paul was holding LAC back, necessarily, but he was running the offense, without question. I very much doubt Doc had too much input on that side of the ball at a certain point, and that can hurt team cohesion. 

 

HOU is an ideal situation because D'Antoni aint really into calling plays or getting into the details. He's got a system, he likes his PG to run it however they see fit, and he's more than happy to just serve as a hype man. I like D'Antoni quite a bit, I'm just saying how it is. Harden clearly got wore the fuck out orchestrating every facet of the gameplan over the course of the year; Chris Paul lives for that stuff.
 

I like the roster moves the Clips made, and I've long maintained that team is way better when everything is running through Griffin. I think they will excel.

 

I think Portland will excel.

 

I think Houston is doing the damn thing.

 

I think OKC is doing the damn thing.

 

I think the Kings will be sneaky good.

 

I think San Antonio will be old, but potentially unstoppable.

 

So who's gonna disappoint, given all that?

NOP is nope, AD forces a trade to .... San Antonio or the Heat? (Are these things not ordained in the night sky?). Boogie gets mad and ends up in Dal.

 

The wheels fall off in Dallas. My insane hot take for this season is: Carlisle doesn't survive the season. Cuban brings in Blatt. Rick mishandled Rondo, by extension he mishandled Monta, and he is badly mishandling Noel. Dirk took himself out of crunch time in their season opener, which is a dark omen. He might be done with basketball. I have a hunch he is done with Carlisle's idiosyncratic coaching style. One plotline that nobody ever really picked up: Dirk and Monta were tight. The whole Parsons Drama Factory pissed the Big German off enough to opt-out and put some demands on it, and I very much doubt he is thrilled about Rick forcing him to play the five because the off-the-court garbage is keeping Nerlens on the bench. Its a fucked up scenario, way more than the national media has caught on to yet.

 

T-Wolves need a playmaker. 

 

GSW underperforms. I think Klay finally gets tired of living in Steph's shadow. China Klay demands allegiance. The Age of Klay approaches.

 

Grit n Grind continues to grit and grind, improbably. But its not enough.

 

Utah is adorable and the Ricky-Rudy connect will be some shit to abuse in 2k. I hope they do better than what I have them penciled in as.

 

 

 

Eastern Conference? Maaan aint no one got time for that.

 

MAGIC are my sleeper squad to be inexplicably competitive. They get a playoff spot.

 

Heat might be dangerous.

 

Celtics will underperform, for various reasons.

 

Wheels fall off in Toronto. 

 

Charlotte might be hype.

 

I feel bad for the Nets, I feel bad for Jeremy Lin, I look forward to them being good.

 

The Wizards emerge from the East.

 

OKC-WAS finals, and our season of torment is made worthwhile. 

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I have a Phoenix Suns garden gnome. It fell down last night and, in an attempt to create the world's most on the nose metaphor, one of my pugs shit on it.

 

I thought you guys might find that amusing.

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Thank you Suns. 

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Haha god Boogie!

 

https://twitter.com/HWHoopsCentral/status/921563824750256130

 

Boogie serving up the smoothie, loool

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Old Head Twitter Truth:

 

https://twitter.com/KGTrashTalk/status/921773412652953602

 

"Michael Jordan had mastered the game by the end of his 10th season in the NBA. The game got boring for him."

 

"There wasn’t anything Michael Jordan couldn’t do on the basketball court by the end of his 8th season. Offensively and defensively."

 

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"James Johnson just dunked Victor Oladipo into another galaxy "

 

https://twitter.com/World_Wide_Wob/status/921894461835239424

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Last Nite:

 

".@JCrossover with 11 of Wolves last 13 points. Keep 'em dancing Jamal! #AllEyesNorth"

 

 

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Yo, Z: Since you roll with Blazers as your second team, you should follow Nate Jones

 

https://twitter.com/JonesOnTheNBA

 

He's their beat writer and a knowledgeable hoops head. In his timeline today he was making case for KD> Kobe, and the bullshit of RINGZZZZ culture.

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So.....there is a little life left in the Grindhouse.

 

I hope NBATV replays the game cuz I really got to see how the Grizz beat 'em. I came in just as Steph was unraveling and throwing a tantrum.

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This made me spill my beverage:

 

 

https://twitter.com/NBALEAD/status/921963401802219521

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