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post #151 of 242

Kyrie doing Kyrie things.

post #152 of 242
Kyrie ballin. Mavs losing. Embiid taunting his vanquished foes.

All is well in the lands of the NBA.
post #153 of 242

Does Carlisle stick around for this rebuild?

post #154 of 242

He's not really the guy to lead a rebuild effort. I predicted before the start of the season he moves on by the end of this go. He's clashed with too many of the Mavs major pickups, from DeAndre to Rondo to Noel now. He's had success here when Dirk was the unquestioned leader - hard to maintain in the twilight of his career. And he had the most success when he had a floor general who was seasoned enough to be able to tell him to go fuck himself and get away with it (Jason Kidd). 


When he has unquestioned authority of all things, he micromanages and clashes with anyone who doesn't slot into his expectations without complaint. You're gonna have a hard time getting enough players who will both go along with that who are also talented enough to win games.


Tactically, strategically, he's every bit as good as Pop. Managing matchups, he might be even better. But his players don't love him. I guess JJ loves him. But damn near everyone who has ever played for Popovich has a deep abiding admiration for him, and that's really the difference. Between getting guys to buy in and browbeating them into it.

Also, there's a picture floating around of the Carlisle Thanksgiving dinner and its fucking pitiful. If you can't put together an acceptable meal for the best holiday on the calendar your priorities are all fucked up. 

post #155 of 242

I feel Carlisle has a job forever with the Mavs because of the championship he won for Cuban.  The only way he's not on the team next year is if he walks away.  


The Mavs are going to lose a lot this year, and probably end up with a top 5 pick...which is what needs to happen.  Too long have they been spinning their wheels in mediocrity in a silly effort to be the 8th seed in the west.  And now they are old and bad.  They need other young pieces to go with Dennis Smith.  I think Smith is the only guy currently on the team who will be there 3 years from now.  They dodged a bullet with Noel, I think he just flat out sucks.  Dirk is done.  Barnes is a 5th option on a good team.


I would be surprised if Carlisle would want to stick around for a 3 or 4 year rebuild, but maybe he's comfortable.  I would think if he left after this year he's still got enough cache to get a top job, whatever that is.  

post #156 of 242
Carlisle to the Pelicans would be fun. I certainly appreciate and respect what he's done here but these gigs have a lifespan. I just dont see how you rebuild with a guy who historically struggles with younger players.

People blame the Mavs strategy of focusing on aging vets on the FO but dude has been here long enough to earn equal credit for the failure to develop *any* young players (shout out Jae, exception to the rule).

So who to bring in? Impossible to say. But if they started talking about Avery Johnsons return, I wouldnt be mad. He developed the best youth movement in the teams history, with JHo, Devin, Marquis, JJ. He would be great for DSJ. His tenure is marred by two historic choke jobs, which makes people remember him as faaaar worse than he was. Dude could coach. He absolutely deserves another shot, if he wants it.
post #157 of 242

Jae wasn't Jae until he got to the Brad Stevens Center for Lost Toys and Reclamation Projects (TM) in Boston, so you can't even give him that one.

post #158 of 242
I mean, youre not wrong. The big complaint here before the Rondo trade was why the hell isnt Jae playing more. We had an historic offense and a fatally flawed defense, but we were leaving our best net wing defender on the bench during crunch time.
post #159 of 242

I do feel there is a Nerlens Noel to Boston trade on the horizon.

post #160 of 242
Oh good maybe we can get two second rounders for him.
post #161 of 242

The Celtics don't really have a rim protector.  Supposedly that's the one thing Noel can do although I have yet to really see it.  But Stevens gets the absolute best out of his players, so don't feel bad when Noel is putting up 10 boards and 2.5 blocks a night in Boston while catching oops from Kyrie.

post #162 of 242

Tee-hee, Cousins trying to sell this as accidental:


post #163 of 242

Maybe its a Marcus Smart 4 Noel trade.  Smart is a gritty player, but he's single-handedly keeping the opposing teams in games with his outside shooting.  3 for 15 (and 2 for 11! from 3) vs the Mavs.

post #164 of 242
I wouldnt feel bad at all. I liked the move when it happened. Stevens is exactly the kind of coach who can get the most out of the kid. To such a degree that Boston would be well within rights to vastly overpay for him.

I think Ainge has been stingy with his assets because hes waiting to swoop on Boogie tho. Thats the real missing piece there. Kyrie can distract him with Youtube videos about the lizardmen Royal Family and theres enough talent at all positions to demand accountability from Boogie.

Leaving NO barren and adrift. We assemble a package of Devin Harris' embalmed body, Noel, Doe Doe, and RICO CARLITO. Plus $100 million cash. All we ask for in exchange is AD. Not like theyre doing anything useful with him anyway.

The brightest timeline.
post #165 of 242
I'm assuming Rick doesnt have a no trade clause in this scenario.
post #166 of 242

Blake out two months for the Clippers. Jordan probably shipped out by time he returns.

post #167 of 242
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"LeBron James says he's already visualized how Isaiah Thomas will fit in with the Cavs by playing with him on NBA 2K: "It’s the most realistic basketball game you could ever play. I mix and match a lot of lineup changes to see how we can be really good. I’ve done that."

post #168 of 242
That's awesome. Live 2018 has a fantastic and informative single player mode, btw.

This is me.

post #169 of 242

Does NBA Live make everyone look like a cross-eyed eastern european serial killer?

post #170 of 242

I was thinking Chemo Louis CK, but WHATEVER.


Max Kleiber is Dirk 2.0

post #171 of 242

LAL-PHI was ridiculously entertaining.


One thing I really like about younger teams is that they treat national broadcast games like they're the playoffs.


Pop just sits everybody you want to see.

post #172 of 242

Longtime DIPO stan, so that's nice to see.


I said at the time I would be somewhat hesitant about that trade, simply because I have a feeling that SABONIS will end up being a really, really good player one day not too far off.


Even though I always picked up Vic on my fantasy teams, I didn't really see him breaking out like this.

post #173 of 242

G-League on Twitch is a pretty solid move, and further cements the NBA as the LEAGUE OF THE FUTURE.


Even tho none of ya'll be watching!

post #174 of 242

It's just been a ho-hum season so far. Not good when the league's biggest star is LaVar Ball.

post #175 of 242
Porzingis is best star
post #176 of 242

That's worse news!

post #177 of 242
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We haven't really talked about how disappointing the Thunder have been so far, and how Westbrook especially has made no effort to blend his game with fresh superstar talent.


The other week Dubs bench were laughing at him still being in an already decided game with a minute to go blatantly chasing triple double. Anthony Bowie rolling over in his grave..

post #178 of 242
Yeah. The look on Westbrook thru all this is undeniably terrible. I wanted to see him attain true werewolf status but as we all know the most effective werewolves hunt in packs.
post #179 of 242
Counterpoint: Westbrook triple dubs still mean his team has an overwhelming chance to win. It doesnt seem healthy, but theyre right there in the playoff picture.
post #180 of 242
ROX tho
post #181 of 242

For a second I thought the Warriors were actually gonna allow all those Laker fans to go home happy on King Diva Kobe Night. Thank you David West for showing Lonzo what the true meaning of a blocked shot is. God that was great. 

post #182 of 242

Lol, you can see the end of the Warriors coming. They have maybe two more chips in em, but more likely one. But it must seem like a lot to you. 

post #183 of 242

NBA TV has a one-on-one interview tonight between Isiah Thomas and Magic Johnson. Looks like it'll focus mainly on their up-and-down friendship over their years. Don't think Isiah will spend much time asking Magic about how the Lakers are a shell of their former selves and will never rise to prominence for the foreseeable future.

post #184 of 242

Don't try too hard buddy. I know trolling the Clippers no longer holds any joy, but it would take a decade with GS on top and the Lakers at the bottom before you could have any impact. 


Simple fact is our group of teenagers has played you guys close in two games, enjoy your reign while it lasts. PS, Klay will look great as a Laker in 2 years. 

post #185 of 242

As a died in the wool Klaytheist:


that would be hilarious.

post #186 of 242

That seems to be the rallying cry for the Lakers these days. "Wait till we sign so and so!" But then the offseason comes and nobody worth a damn goes there. Westbrook isn't going, LeBron? He's not going. Klay? He seems comfy being a #3 guy and remaining eternally stoned so he's not going. Lakers are the Knicks-west. Geography dictates they'll always be in the news but as a legit good basketball team it's a wrap.


Summer League '18 is theirs to lose though. They'll dominate.

post #187 of 242

It will take around 4 years to restore order. The team is too young to compete for a championship any time soon. But the core of Kuzma, Lonzo and Igram has tons of room to grow. Other nice young players include Nance, Clarkson, Randle, Bryant and Hart (not all of these guys will stay if we do the free agent thing) but even if we don't get free agents the future is bright. 


If you think the Lakers far from contention you are kidding yourself, or just trolling. GS has a nice squad, but we will be up in your grill in a few years.

post #188 of 242
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Originally Posted by Moltisanti View Post

NBA TV has a one-on-one interview tonight between Isiah Thomas and Magic Johnson. Looks like it'll focus mainly on their up-and-down friendship over their years.


Pretty enjoyable, if slight, til the very end when Isiah breaking down wrecked me.

post #189 of 242

I'm in love with the idea that the Thunder are put together for the sole and specific purpose of beating the Dubs. Kinda like how the Pacers used to gear their entire roster around stopping LeBron.

post #190 of 242


Did you know that you can't goaltend a shot if it wouldn't count? The refs didn't, the players didn't (I didn't either)... but the Suns coach did, and he won 'em a game with it... pretty cool.

post #191 of 242



A little over a year after his father’s death, Craig Sager II tweeted he and his siblings had been “100% excluded” from Sager Sr.’s will.


“Nothing like getting served, pestered by Sherrifs & taken to court over a Will that myself and my sisters are not only 100% excluded from but do not even have any interest in contesting in the first place. Thanks Dad ,” Sager II tweeted Tuesday.

post #192 of 242

Yeah thats fucked up.


Apparently the gold digger who initiated court proceedings used to be a Bulls backup dancer.


I can't believe Sager used his wildin suits for nefarious ends, but apparently he had a reputation as being definitely not a family man.


Still, youngblood came through with the bone marrow twice. Really ought to warrant a consideration. Most charitable explanation is Sager was all fucked up on chemo and his acquired thot pushed the changes to the will on him in that state.


Which is disgusting and terrible but damn, man. She's just a hoe.


No heroes. Its unfortunate all that is out there.

post #193 of 242

OKC is too big and strong.

post #194 of 242

Intriguing article about Rick Carlisle's rant related to LaVar Ball, and the notion that some coaches want credentials pulled from writers who interview Ball:

post #195 of 242

I think its bullshit, and Rick's holier than thou attitude on it is not helpful.


This is a problem between the Lakers and their player and Lavar Ball. Coaches trying to police who the press talks to is fucking ridiculous.

post #196 of 242
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I'm still laughing about this:


post #197 of 242

Chris Paul leading the Rockets through the secret access tunnel is absolutely hilarious.

post #198 of 242
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RIP Jo Jo. The somewhat forgotten great Celtic.


2x NBA champion 1976 NBA Finals MVP 7x All-Star 2x All-NBA 1968 Olympic Gold Medalist



post #199 of 242

League Pass is on free preview through 1/21.

post #200 of 242

OKC went out and damn near hung 150 on them. That team is built to demolish the playoffs.


Anyway, Wes Matthews for D.Rose and Jae. Whatever assorted crap you gotta throw in to make it work. Lets get this done.

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