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post #51 of 802

Fuck I had a blast with this. The best MCU film since Iron Man 3, and possibly my favourite overall. Yeah, the stakes didn't feel particularly high but the film is actually better off for it - trying to pretend that stakes even matter in this universe (see Civil War, the most boring MCU film next to Ultron and IM2) just highlights how empty these films and characters really are. The plots are still by-the-numbers, but if they keep hiring guys like Waititi to inject a bit of personality, then I'm all in. I want an entire film with sulky teenager Hulk.

 

Another nice touch - they brought back Patrick Doyle's badass Thor theme after ditching it in The Dark World.

post #52 of 802
I caught the early morning showing today with my brother so here are some random thoughts about it:

- There is only 1 2D showing per day of this movie in the cinema that i regularly go to. Not that it isn't gorgeous in 3D, it is. It's not just this movie though and i confess it pisses me off. I want to have enough options to see it in 2D if i desire to do so.

- Playing the "Immigrant song" twice. To what do we owe this pleasure if i may ask?

- Definitely better than the 2nd installment. But i get the criticisms of goofy serious Thor. How far can you uphold the serious Shakepearean Thor with the comicbook goofiness? Trying to bridge the 2 is a Herculean task that Taika admirably undertakes but not always succeeds.

- Chris Hemsworth needs to play in more comedies that utilises his comedic sensibilities more properly.

- Loki & Thor still work as a comedic duo.

- Jeff Goldblum's Grandmaster is like if Goldblum's character from Independence Day crashlanded with that alien space ship and he got very high on that the aliens of Sakaar see him as a deity than the uptight nerd he really is.

- Cate Blancett's Hela is delightful and unfortunately underserved. Basically the critisism of most villains in superhero movies today.

- I didn't feel anything when Odin was checking out. He was like: Well, there's this apocalypse upon us...oh yeah you have a sister...okay see ya.

- Grandmaster's "pussy wagon/ship" needed a Goldblum dancing & gargling on 80s synth music ala Oscar Isaac.
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- Korg and Miek ( Am i spelling this right?) were a highlight. Just delightful.

- While i chuckled quite a bit i somehow expected to be funnier. Maybe i still was a bit sleepy, it was early in the morning after all, but not every joke landed. Or maybe i didn't get some of the Kiwi humor. Full disclosure: there were like 9 other people besides myself and my brother in this showing.
And the biggest laugh of my showing were the "Get help" scene and Thor throwing that bouncy ball that backfires.

-Tessa Thompson looks like a lovable boozedrinking Walkure badass. Yeah, i said it.

- I'm not sure but would Tony Stark ever don a Duran Duran t-shirt?

- Banner & Thor should go "on the road".

- Speaking of Banner...he's afraid that if he changes in Hulk again it would be permanent and disastrous. Yet, i can't see what he has going at the moment. He might as well go all the way.

Anyway, as an early morning before breakfast it was a pleasant enough time to be waking up to.
post #53 of 802
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Another nice touch - they brought back Patrick Doyle's badass Thor theme after ditching it in The Dark World.

was really happy to hear it on the score album!

post #54 of 802

I haven't seen this movie yet but I thought this review seemed fair while also offering a sort of ambivalent critique of the larger MCU formula and the context of this movie in that, and how Ragnarok might be slightly "better" than the MCU average but still has the same kind of end effect:

 

http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2017/11/thor-ragnarok.html#more

post #55 of 802
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I haven't seen this movie yet but I thought this review seemed fair while also offering a sort of ambivalent critique of the larger MCU formula and the context of this movie in that, and how Ragnarok might be slightly "better" than the MCU average but still has the same kind of end effect:

 

http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2017/11/thor-ragnarok.html#more

 

Pretty fair review. I especially agreed with:

 

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the jokes feel grafted onto it the way you would stick a tongue-moistened Cheerio to someone's forehead just because both the Cheerio and the forehead were there. Not much of the humour has anything to do with situation or character. 
post #56 of 802

It definitely sounds like a fun movie, I would watch it for Waititi, Goldblum, and Blanchett alone. but I will probably wait for video.

post #57 of 802
post #58 of 802
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Yeah, the stakes didn't feel particularly high but the film is actually better off for it - trying to pretend that stakes even matter in this universe (see Civil War, the most boring MCU film next to Ultron and IM2) just highlights how empty these films and characters really are.

I saw the same thing, but from a different angle. The stakes were apocalyptic, but the cast of beautiful muscle people had things well in hand. The power fantasies of the swords and sorcery movies of the 80's are part of the movie's DNA. It's a childish approach to the action movie, but hell if it isn't fun to indulge in from time to time.

Also, it makes a little more sense now that Marvel didn't bother putting out that Infinity War sizzle reel from San Diego Comic Con.

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That footage wasn't from the movie, it was made for the convention. Thor still has both eyes in it, to avoid spoiling parts of Ragnarok.

Edited by Reasor - 11/2/17 at 7:31pm
post #59 of 802
Just got back. Loved this, can't believe they had the balls to make it an outright comedy.
post #60 of 802

Best Marvel movie since Winter Soldier. So much to love here: Mark Mothersbaugh's score. Cate Blanchett taking the time she has on-screen and Nic Cage-ing into hyperspace as Hela, the vampiest comic book performance since Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman, Tessa Thompson owning it as Valkyrie, the best use of the Hulk in the MCU and the best depiction of the character on film, and fucking Jeff Goldblum. All that, and it has the tone of something like Yor or MegaForce. They should have gone full hog with the 80's fantasy gimmick and called it Thor: The Hunter from the Future.

 

Anyone who has ever met or seen a picture of me will attest that despite him getting Stark's clothes, Bruce Banner takes fashion tips from me: sport coat, skinny jeans, deep cut T-shirt.

post #61 of 802

This is so much fun ... and so very inconsequential.  It feels like two movies shoved together so that neither gets any room to really breather.  The Hela/Ragnarok angle suffers the most from it, but Sakaar could have used more time as well.

 

But it's too much goddamn fun for me to be super critical.  It's a Jack Kirby fever dream fill-in issue, where maybe the plot isn't the strongest, and maybe it's just there to fill space between arcs, but if you're gonna kill time, do it with style.

post #62 of 802

 I expected this movie to make me smile ear to ear and it did!  I would call this the best MCU flick of the year; yes even better than Spider-Man: Homecoming.

 

 Its just as funny as it was hyped to be, but that never lesson the stakes for me. While it was clear that Hemsworth was having fun playing the character, that never lessened Thor's desire to get back to Asgard to save his people.

 

  Both uses of the Immigrant Song worked great, but second time was even better because it was also used to show Valkyrie  reclaiming her role as defender of Asgard. She was great by the way. Actually the whole cast was. It wasn't a shock how much fun Goldblum is in this. His post credit scene was his best moment. I hoped he talked his way out of it.

 

  Nothing against the supporting cast of the previous Thor movies, but I didn't miss them. It was weird that the warriors three where so quickly killed, but like I just said, I didn't miss them for the rest of movie.

 

  Loki was great as always. His best moment was yelling," Now you know how it feels."

 

  As soon as I saw Skurge's look of uneasy about being Hela's henchman, I knew how his arc would play out. That said, I still enjoyed watching it play out.

 

  Hela doesn't do much, but she looked great doing it.

 

  I wouldn't call this the best use of the Hulk, that still goes to the third act of the Avengers, but he is great in this. Thor trying to use the lullaby was clever.

 

  In closing, in Movie Bob's Really That Bad for BvS he said that comic book movies can be inspiration. One could make a case that this is. For as funny as this movie is, it still about someone who wants to help. In the case of Valkyrie and Skurge, people can change their ways for the better. I wouldn't say this movie has subtext but it isn't mindless fun either.

post #63 of 802
hey that was really fun

it establishes that it's going to be a comedy from the very beginning, so I didn't really have a major problem with the consistently predictable undercutting humor

it's light, but in the most favorable way considering it's a THOR movie

that said, I didn't find it completely inconsequential even though the movie really does toss away several story beats that could've been grand drama

but y'know what this movie just reminded me of? a movie that was originally intended to be a grand epic and got retooled to be a wacky comedy? also featuring a king getting back his kingdom from a hammy vamp with a dumb but well meaning sidekick?

EMPEROR'S NEW GROOVE

and as with Emperor's New Groove, I'm pretty pleased with what we got instead

(which isn't to say that Thor Ragnarok was originally envisioned as some grand epic drama from the outset)


(and oh GOD!!! ruffalo's stark wardrobe IS huntertarantino!!!)
Edited by mcnooj82 - 11/2/17 at 9:52pm
post #64 of 802

Thought this was perfectly OK!

 

Wanted the version of Thor Ragnarok that's actually just Planet Hulk w/ Valkyrie as the POV character. Tessa Thompson deserved way more screentime. Jeff Goldblum deserved 1000% more screentime. Korg deserved his own movie.

 

Also, Karl Urban kinda has the best (or at least most complete) arc in this movie.

post #65 of 802
it's too bad that Hela's storyline is so compromised for the Sakaar stuff

there's a really promising story there that an actual drama could've mined such subtext... but the movie just glazes right past it

but I really liked her exposition scene with the art on the palace ceiling about Odin's pattern of denying his cruel past
post #66 of 802

Hela's a pretty damn thin character on paper. But it works when you cast Cate Fucking Blanchett to just vamp it up and have a ton of fun. 

 

 

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Also, Karl Urban kinda has the best (or at least most complete) arc in this movie.

 

I'd agree with this. Although I think it's a damn fine end to Thor's arc over three movies. 

post #67 of 802
Blanchett is WONDERFUL

she's pretty much the reason the character works at all
post #68 of 802
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it's too bad that Hela's storyline is so compromised for the Sakaar stuff

there's a really promising story there that an actual drama could've mined such subtext... but the movie just glazes right past it


Yeah. That stuff really did deserve to be a full-blown Walt Simonson Thor epic. Blanchett was having fun, but if Cate Blanchett as Hela is not the most interesting character in the movie (even with a bench this deep), you've done something wrong.

 

Also, it felt like they wrote and shot Odin's death scene over the course of a long lunchbreak.

post #69 of 802
HAHAHAHA I KNOW!!!

it feels like a cheap reshoot with rushed compositing!


I actually did find Hela to be the most interesting character

the movie just doesn't do much with that potential
post #70 of 802

I dunno. Certainly she was the character with the most potential, but a lot of it came down to "I was wronged by Dad and now I'm ANGRY". Maybe it was being separated from most of the cast, and that Skurge is doing most of the reacting/evolving over their scenes. They could've leaned into the "Hela/Death as a force of nature" thing more, I think, since this was the direction they took.

 

It definitely felt to me like Taika's heart was really in the Sakaar storyline rather than the Asgard storyline. And why not? You've got Valkyrie swaggering around, Hulk/Banner shenanigans, and Peak Goldblum. Plus Korg. All hail Korg.

post #71 of 802

When I say 'interesting' I'm really talking about how compelling I found Blanchett's delivery of every line.  She made "I'm really mad about my dad!" interesting.  She's fantastic at exposition.

 

That and the potential such a character could've had if the movie gave her something more to do.

 

 Let's just say that I never minded when the movie cut away from Sakaar on this first viewing.  I didn't feel the runtime at all.  It all moved along very nicely.  I may feel differently on a rewatch... now that I know the movie doesn't do much with Hela as a character.

 

 

that's certainly how rogue one ended up falling so hard on a mere second viewing

 

what a shoddy temp movie!!

 

 

 

ALSO...

 

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did I skip a beat and miss what happened to Sif in some other movie or Agents of SHIELD?
post #72 of 802
Korg is indeed the best:

"I wanted to start a revolution. But I didn't print enough flyers, so only two people showed up. My mom, and my step-dad...who I HATE."
post #73 of 802

Yeah it's interesting because Blanchett knocks Hela out of the park, but the entire Asgard storyline feels somewhat superfluous partly because it still looks like a big CG city that has maybe 3 people living in it. I would've been perfectly fine if the entire film had taken place on Sakaar.

 

I also would've preferred, oddly enough, if Hulk just stayed Hulked out for the majority of the film, with Banner only showing up at the tail-end once the battle has been won. And I actually like Ruffallo but the Thor and Hulk interactions were fantastic and making the arc about a sulky angry Hulk having to calm the fuck down and turn back into Banner would've been better than the umpteenth iteration of Bruce is scared of Hulk, Bruce embraces inner-Hulk to save people.

post #74 of 802
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did I skip a beat and miss what happened to Sif in some other movie or Agents of SHIELD?

No, that actress was just busy with another project.
post #75 of 802

*SPOILER SPACE*

 

*SPOILER SPACE*

 

*SPOILER SPACE*

 

Maybe they were going to do to her character what they did to the Warriors Three, and she saw how Thor didn't even comment on their demise, so she got the Hela out of there. 

post #76 of 802

*CAN'T READ MY, CAN'T READ MY*

 

*CAN'T READ MY SPOILER SPACE*

 

I think my favorite thing about this movie is how disconnected it is from the rest of the MCU. It is an intimately personal Thor story, the stakes really wrapped up in his world and only tangentially related to what's going on in the rest of the universe. It's almost like a second origin story.

post #77 of 802
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No, that actress was just busy with another project.

the official word is that the character was exiled from Asgard before the events of the movie, due to being close to finding the truth about Odin
post #78 of 802

I'm pretty much in keeping with everyone else here, and I'm having some very conflicting feelings about this movie.

 

On one hand, the jokes almost entirely landed for me.  It's a tremendously funny movie and I was thoroughly entertained.

 

On the other, I feel like it skews just a bit too much towards being an outright comedy.  Guardians Vol. 2 seems like a tear-jerker oscar-bait drama by comparison to this thing.  If you're one of those people that complains about the Marvel Cinematic Universe being "weightless" then this movie should drive you up the wall, because almost every single moment that should have some emotional heft or gravitas to it gets undercut by a joke or gag.  It's like if Yondu finished his "I know you boy, because you're me!" speech to Rocket in Guardians 2 and after a second Kraglin let out an audible fart to break the tension. 

 

Thor feels like he's regressed as a character in every way except his relationship with Loki.  It almost feels like losing Mjolnir makes him revert back to "arrogant ass" mode and the opening sequence has Thor basically doing the very same thing he did that got him exiled in The Mighty Thor all over again, even if it's for "better" reasons.  It doesn't help that he is almost continually portrayed as a man-child (particularly in his argument with the Hulk).  I do honestly believe that injecting some levity into the character for the big screen is the right idea, as Thor can be pretty dour in the books, but this felt like a bit too much.  Thor's not really supposed to be a buffoon, and here "lovable buffoon" is almost his entire characterization.

 

And my poor fanboy heart was saddened to see the unceremonious offing of the Warriors Three (But Heimdall's role was welcome), and above all the fact that they did a half-assed homage to the Death of Skurge, which IMO is one of the finest and most epic moments in comicdom, after having made Skurge into mostly comic-relief.  I do get the impression that the love of Simonson was there (There's another "Simonson Moment" near the beginning of the film that's just about perfect while still being altered for the big screen), but I think I would have rather have seen Skurge cut altogether rather than rush to get what amounts to a purely visual homage to arguably the most famous and beloved sequence in any Thor comic, ever.

 

I was also a little bit disappointed with the Grandmaster, who's a pretty formidable (and "serious") villain in the comics but here is basically comic relief yet again.  Goldblum is fantastic in the role and for the context of the movie itself it works like gangbusters, but it was still a tiny bit disappointing.

 

And Thor doesn't feel quite right without a Mjolnir.  Was really surprised it didn't get restored somehow by the end (along with the Warriors Three somehow getting resurrected).

 

All that said:

 

Tom Hiddleston wears Loki like a second skin by now, and as with the last two films the relationship between Thor and Loki remains a high point, and Hiddleston seems like he's every bit as enthusiastic about the role as he's ever been.

 

There's a cameo near the beginning of the film that's hilarious on about ten different levels, and very much gave me a deeper appreciation of Waititi as a director.  The other cameos that surround it are great too, but easy to miss because of the first cameo.

 

The callbacks to the previous films (of both the Avenger and Thor variety) are all pretty great.

 

Again, despite feeling like the humor undercuts any drama and reflection a little too much, the humor IS still very, very funny.  I'm conflicted that the Director seem to give himself all the best lines (as Korg), though.  Maybe I'm a fuddy-duddy but that almost feels a little too on-the-nose.

 

Hela turns out to be one of the best Marvel villains, but more due to Cate Blanchett's blazing charisma and obvious glee at playing the vampy badass villainess than deep writing.  I do REALLY hope they make her Thanos' object of desire because it would be a shame if she were a one-off and I feel like she would make for a lot of fun playing off of Thanos (and others).

 

The Dr. Strange cameo was great, and does really kind of make me wish we somehow get a full on Dr. Strange vs. Loki battle in one of the Infinity Wars.

 

Valkyrie was awesome.  But now I want a Sif/Valkyrie buddy film where they can trash-talk Thor while they kick ass across the Nine Realms. 

 

Hulk was great as well.  Very much the old "savage child" Hulk come to (digital) life.

 

All in all despite my fanboy quibbles I'd still highly recommend it.  It's tons of fun.  I wouldn't be at all opposed to Waititi doing more in the MCU or with Thor specifically, but I hope he'd rebalance the humor vs. drama just a bit.


Edited by Jmacq1 - 11/3/17 at 6:33am
post #79 of 802

Seeing this tonight.  The comparison to EMPEROR'S NEW GROOVE makes me giddy with delight.

post #80 of 802
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almost every single moment that should have some emotional heft or gravitas to it gets undercut by a joke or gag.  It's like if Yondu finished his "I know you boy, because you're me!" speech to Rocket in Guardians 2 and after a second Kraglin let out an audible fart to break the tension. 

 

 

post #81 of 802

Ok, regarding Skurge:

 

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I can live with his arc being adapted that way in the movie, if only because the Karl Urban appearance in the credits is pure Simonson, which I loved.

Seeing the Special thanks to Simonson and Pak in the credits made me swoon like a nerdy fanboy. Loved that.

 

As for the Grandmaster, he is confirmed to be the brother of the Collector, and Im betting Marvel will not waste the chance to have Goldblum and Del Toro camp it up together onscreen; hell, just make a Contest of Champions movie with both of them recruiting their champions from the sidelines of the Marvel U.

 

Also, I think the casting of Blanchett as Hela was partially decided because only Blanchett could sell the continuity joke about the Infinity Gauntlet in Odin's Vault.

 

My one fanboy gripe with the film is that they didnt have Mojolnir's remains land in an alien planet and being picked by an orange alien...well, there is also the chance they will show a frog picking a shard of it?*

 

as for the post credits scene...

 

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Im assuming that ship was Thanos, there because Loki took the Tesseract before leaving Asgard?

*So, what are the odds they will bring the Jane Foster Thor post Infinity War? And will they lure Portman back or recast? 

post #82 of 802
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*So, what are the odds they will bring the Jane Foster Thor post Infinity War? And will they lure Portman back or recast? 

 

About as likely as bringing back the Red Skull ie. not a chance. Marvel seem to be quite unsentimental about dumping characters when they don't work. I'd be up for a female Thor though.

post #83 of 802
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About as likely as bringing back the Red Skull ie. not a chance. Marvel seem to be quite unsentimental about dumping characters when they don't work. I'd be up for a female Thor though.

I think they might, if they recast the role.

post #84 of 802
I don't think recasting is worth it for the Jane Foster character
post #85 of 802
There's a Jane Foster character?
post #86 of 802

WHO???

post #87 of 802

I'm so glad she wasn't in this. Just the thought of having Jane Foster in Ragnarok makes me want to fall asleep.

post #88 of 802
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I'm so glad she wasn't in this. Just the thought of having Jane Foster in Ragnarok makes me want to fall asleep.

it probably puts Portman to sleep too

post #89 of 802
At least Thor doesn't need to worry anymore of being slapped in the face again.

He's fine

She's fine

It's fine

He'll be fine

She'll be fine

This is totally fine

WE DUMPED EACHOTHER OKAY!!

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post #90 of 802

Thor will be fine.

 

But didn't the second open with Jane trying to date and no human can match up to Thor. It'll be hard for her, I'm sure.

post #91 of 802
You know, for all the many cool additions to the cast, I stlll think Hiddleston's Loki remains the standout in these movies.

"I've been falling for thirty minutes!"

I'm glad they seem to be going fully anti-hero with him. Be interesting to see how that'll play out in the next Avengers, because you just know he snagged that Cube.

The rest of the characters were great fun too, though-- Thor in particular this time. It's still the classic character, only they've boosted some qualities that were already there and kinda mixed in the cosmic humor of Marvel Hercules as done by Bob Layton, of which I was always a fan.

So the humor level doesn't bother me in the least. I think the knock (on other Marvel movies too) that any kind of drama gets undercut is overblown. Look at how straight they play the death of Odin and Hela's arrival, and that's a fairly long sequence. I think many things, like the Valkyrie and Hulk parts of the story, carried the appropriate weight for this kind of movie.

The Skurge stuff was more of a sketch of his great arc from the comics, but I'm glad it was there. It would have helped if he had somehow been established as a minor antogonist in previous movies, but that's a lot to ask. I really like Urban's working class take, even if he didn't get to show much personality after his first couple of scenes.

RIP the Warriors Three. I'd agree it sucks that they're handled as an afterthought almost. Fandral went out so quick I couldn't even catch whether he'd been recast yet again. Then they give Hogun a pretty good death as if to make up for his disappearance from the last movie. Just weird. Good thing Sif was on vacation during the Twilight of the Gods I guess.

Anyway, had a good time overall. Standard movie bitch that it could've been 20 minutes shorter applies. Also, those mid/post credits scenes didn't have much to offer and were the definition of "obligatory". It may be time to retire those things.
post #92 of 802
I remain about 98% convinced that Loki’s role moving forward will be to stand in for Mephisto during the Infinity Gauntlet adaptation.
post #93 of 802
Just a thought about Thor's personality change: I can rationalize it as a post-relationship-breakup, in-denial, Thor. I think one can be goofy because they are kind of a mess inside about stuff like that. I don't know that this is what the filmmakers are doing outside of just wanting something else with Thor's personality, but it's not like Foster was just a fling, and he really was in denial about who dumped who in this right? So yeah, I can chalk it up to that and just go with it, even if it's not reality under the actual motivations of Waititi et al.
post #94 of 802
post #95 of 802

 It did hit me that Thor in this movie is a lot different from his first two, but I just chalk that up to spending more time on Earth. His tone is more conversional and less Shakespeare and I'm fine with that.

post #96 of 802
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 It did hit me that Thor in this movie is a lot different from his first two, but I just chalk that up to spending more time on Earth. His tone is more conversional and less Shakespeare and I'm fine with that.

He has supposedly been on earth 4 years post Thor 2; and since he was pretty much buddies with Tony Stark, you can see how much of an influence Tony was on Thor.
That and him being in post break up mode.
post #97 of 802

I enjoyed this. I don't own either of the first two, but this will definitely be an own for me. 

 

I know I missed a ton of lines, between audience laughter and the volume on Korg's lines being way way lower than anyone else. Can't wait to watch this with captions.

 

And absolutely, Loki snagged the Tesseract at the end. Like, not even a doubt in my mind.

 

Goldblum's post-credit scene was aces, too.

post #98 of 802
I think that's the fastest I've gone and blocked someone.
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That and him being in post break up mode.

I read this as

 

POINT BREAK UP MODE

post #100 of 802
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I think that's the fastest I've gone and blocked someone.

I inaugurated my block list!
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