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Marvel's FANTASTIC FOUR (Noah Hawley, 20XX)

post #1 of 30
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http://variety.com/2017/film/news/doctor-doom-1202502084/

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/06/21st-century-fox-has-been-holding-talks-to-sell-most-of-company-to-disney-sources.html

 

This is the place to discuss the inevitable MCU reboot of the FANTASTIC FOUR. Noah Hawley was already working on a DOCTOR DOOM flick, but if the Disney-Fox deal goes through, why not bring him over for the whole shebang?

post #2 of 30
I read that today too.

It's very interesting that's it's reported Fox is interested in selling their entire movie studio, which would not only be Fantastic Four but also the X-Men.

The talks have stopped, possibly because Fox wants to retain some of that X-Men cash somehow.
post #3 of 30
The earth of that franchise has been salted. Nothing will ever grow from it again.
post #4 of 30
I really don't need to see another take on Dark Phoenix on screen, just so that Disney can have its own, either. At this point Fox should just keep what it has.
post #5 of 30

If they're gonna do a F4 movie in the currently running Marvel EU, I'd like to see it implemented in this manner:

 

- They're all older actors, maybe in their 50s.  George Clooney as Mr. Fantastic, for example.  

- The team has 'been around for a while.'  Maybe they were big 20 years ago (long before the events of IRON MAN) and went into retirement for a few years.

- Something brings them back out of retirement to help The Avengers/Iron Man/Whoever, giving them a good 'in' into the Marvel EU.

 

We've had plenty of the new guard lately, especially with Spider Man.  Let's have something classy with some established A-List actors who want to have some fun.

- George Clooney as Mr. Fantastic

- Michelle Pfeiffer as Invisible Woman

- Brad Pitt as Human Torch

- John Goodman as The Thing

post #6 of 30

The only thing that drew me to this thread was Hawley's name, otherwise I would ignore F4 movies forever. 

post #7 of 30

Seems a little premature to start a thread on a movie that will never happen.  The talks are dead.

post #8 of 30

It's so easy even dumb fuck me knows how to do Fantastic Four properly within the MCU - admittedly it's a tough property to adapt. Pretty "out there" even by comic-book standards.

 

Set it in 1961 (incidentally that was Peyton Reed's take from 2003) thus their being "the First Family" and do it as a limited-run series. Boom.

post #9 of 30

As long as Captain America has a scene with Human Torch where he looks at him and says something like, "You remind me of someone..."

 

CUE roaring audience applause

 

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Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie View Post

 

Set it in 1961 (incidentally that was Peyton Reed's take from 2003) thus their being "the First Family" and do it as a limited-run series. Boom.

 

 

And you just lost them. 

post #10 of 30
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Originally Posted by User_32 View Post

As long as Captain America has a scene with Human Torch where he looks at him and says something like, "You remind me of someone..."

CUE roaring audience applause

Seems more like a cue to a general murmur created by people explaining to other people what the reference is.
post #11 of 30
The Fantastic Four of the comics were always unique in that all of their identities were disclosed to the public on day one. If Marvel Studios' cinematic universe hadn't already played it so loosey-goosey with the secret identities, it might have been fun to see a Fantastic Four comedy about being a modern celebrity family.
post #12 of 30
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Seems a little premature to start a thread on a movie that will never happen.  The talks are dead.

 

It'll never happen like Spider-Man will never be in the MCU. Talks are not dead. Misleading choice of words. On again, off again. If Fox is determined to sell off their non-sports'n'news assets, which by all accounts they still are, you better believe Disney will redouble their efforts to keep X-MEN, FANTASTIC FOUR and A NEW HOPE out of the grubby mitts of Amazon or Netflix. Beyond that, they want that sweet library of film and television for their upcoming streaming service.

post #13 of 30
Thread Starter 

BTW, Ambler's Dark Horizons link cites The Playlist which cites the Wall Street Journal which just so happens to be owned by the Murdochs who own you-know-what. Probably a negotiating tactic. In the end, I can't imagine this deal not happening in some form.


Edited by Barry Woodward - 11/28/17 at 8:50pm
post #14 of 30
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

If they're gonna do a F4 movie in the currently running Marvel EU, I'd like to see it implemented in this manner:

 

- They're all older actors, maybe in their 50s.  George Clooney as Mr. Fantastic, for example.  

- The team has 'been around for a while.'  Maybe they were big 20 years ago (long before the events of IRON MAN) and went into retirement for a few years.

 

 

No, no, NO. Fuck all of this, Booth. We're going to do this MY way and we're gonna put this vehicle into reverse. 

 

Chosen Brown (IT) is...

REED RICHARDS (aka MR FANTASTIC)

 

Ekaterina Samsonov (Wonderstruck) is....

SUE STORM (aka THE INVISIBLE GIRL)

 

Finn Wolfhard (IT and Stranger Things) is.... 

JOHNNY STORM (aka THE HUMAN TORCH)

 

Jeremy Ray Taylor (IT) is.... 

BENJAMIN GRIMM (aka THE THING)

 

 

As proven by IT and Stranger Things, kids may be our future but they're also big buck$. PLUS, these pint-sized heroes will be good for many years of MCUing before they get too old and have to be replaced. Well, we can probably replace Ray Taylor once he becomes CGI and is voiced by Lance Reddick or whatever. 

post #15 of 30
And Boss Baby as Doctor Doom

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post #16 of 30

This thread is hell. 

 

Why, Barry? There are so many good films out now. Why do we have to do this? 

post #17 of 30

You're just as much to blame for this as Barry is.

post #18 of 30
Thread Starter 

Turns out 21st Century Fox has other suitors. Could Comcast or Verizon end up with Fantastic Four and X-Men? #BiddingWar

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/16/comcast-has-approached-21st-century-fox-to-express-interest-in-buying-some-major-assets-sources-say.html

post #19 of 30
This seem very weird given it wasn't too long ago they were looking to buy Time Warner.
post #20 of 30

Just give them back to Marvel, you fucking assholes. 

post #21 of 30
Thread Starter 

"I just want to start with a juicy rumor that is fast gaining steam in town today, that Disney is progressing speedily toward that rumored acquisition of Fox. The version I heard has the Murdoch clan keeping possession of sports and news properties, and the rest of TV and the film studio going to Disney. Radio silence right now from both studios, and given how Disney made the Marvel and Lucasfilm deals under the cone of silence, if this happens we’ll probably only know it when it’s announced. It is certainly being talked about today. Not surprisingly, the reaction around town is not enthusiasm, because of the uncertainty that comes with potentially reducing a major studio to content generators under the Disney silo system."

 

https://deadline.com/2017/11/disney-fox-deal-should-shamed-artists-be-stricken-from-history-1202214838/

post #22 of 30
I like my rumors like I like my yoga pants.

Juicy.
post #23 of 30
Thread Starter 

Rumor no more!

 

"The Walt Disney Company to Acquire Twenty-First Century Fox, Inc., After Spinoff of Certain Businesses, for $52.4 Billion in Stock"

 

https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/walt-disney-company-acquire-twenty-first-century-fox-inc-spinoff-certain-businesses-52-4-billion-stock/


Edited by Barry Woodward - 12/14/17 at 10:45am
post #24 of 30

Tell us more Barry!

post #25 of 30
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

If they're gonna do a F4 movie in the currently running Marvel EU, I'd like to see it implemented in this manner:

 

- They're all older actors, maybe in their 50s.  George Clooney as Mr. Fantastic, for example.  

- The team has 'been around for a while.'  Maybe they were big 20 years ago (long before the events of IRON MAN) and went into retirement for a few years.

- Something brings them back out of retirement to help The Avengers/Iron Man/Whoever, giving them a good 'in' into the Marvel EU.

 

We've had plenty of the new guard lately, especially with Spider Man.  Let's have something classy with some established A-List actors who want to have some fun.

- George Clooney as Mr. Fantastic

- Michelle Pfeiffer as Invisible Woman

- Brad Pitt as Human Torch

- John Goodman as The Thing

I think they could go back to Peyton Reed's old '60s set Fantastic Four pitch with some tweaks.

 

Act 1 is them in the 60s prepping for the space mission to test Reed's newly invented faster than light drive. Throw in a de-aged John Slattery Howard Stark cameo.

Act 2 the FTL drive takes them to the Negative Zone. The transition gives them their powers, damages spaceship. Meet Annihilus

Act 3 Fight Annihilus, repair ship, escape Negative Zone. The ship crash lands in the Canyon of Heroes. In the present day. Final reveal that when they crashed they damaged the A on Avengers Tower so now it looks like a 4. Cut to "The Fantastic 4 will Return" text, roll credits.

post #26 of 30

Has Disney bought CHUD yet?

 

Are we all part of the MCU / Star Wars expanded universe now?

post #27 of 30
Yes . . . unfortunately we will be directed by McG.
post #28 of 30

Can I be played by Josh Brolin?

 

EDIT: Come to think of it, have we done a Chewers Casting Draft yet?

post #29 of 30
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Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
 

I think they could go back to Peyton Reed's old '60s set Fantastic Four pitch with some tweaks.

 

Act 1 is them in the 60s prepping for the space mission to test Reed's newly invented faster than light drive. Throw in a de-aged John Slattery Howard Stark cameo.

Act 2 the FTL drive takes them to the Negative Zone. The transition gives them their powers, damages spaceship. Meet Annihilus

Act 3 Fight Annihilus, repair ship, escape Negative Zone. The ship crash lands in the Canyon of Heroes. In the present day. Final reveal that when they crashed they damaged the A on Avengers Tower so now it looks like a 4. Cut to "The Fantastic 4 will Return" text, roll credits.

The fact that Homecoming has Happy packing up Stark Tower after they've moved upstate feels like a perfect synchronicity for it to become the Baxter Building.

 

Unless it gets destroyed in Infinity War.

post #30 of 30
Thread Starter 

Noah Hawley: "I haven't had a single conversation yet about Doom in the context of the merger. On some level, we're still looking at a period of time – probably a year, at the least – for this whole thing to go through. Who knows, corporately, what conversations will be had, but certainly, until it goes through, it's not a legal thing. I don't know. I've been waiting for the phone to ring to see if anyone is gonna have an opinion. Otherwise, it's just business as usual for me."

 

http://collider.com/doctor-doom-movie-update-noah-hawley/#disney-fox-deal

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