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post #1 of 7627
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Okay, I guess I'll kick this off as I have seen the film as of this morning.

 

NO SPOILERS I PROMISE

 

Full disclosure - I am a lifelong Star Wars fan. It came out when I was four and it was the first film I ever saw in the cinema. I adore the original trilogy and tolerate the prequels, despite their numerous (many) flaws. And I really like The Force Awakens with some minor quibbles. Rogue One left me cold.

 

I made a conscious decision to avoid all trailers, tv spots, articles, featurettes - everything for The Last Jedi so I could go in totally spoiler-free.

 

And, I enjoyed (almost) every second of it.

 

First off this is a hell of a ride. A non-stop rollercoaster of action and emotion. And it's damn funny in places, a hell of a lot more than I expected. And it does not go the way you think it will. At all. And that may be a problem for some.

 

It's a hard balance to strike. Go the tried and trusted route or try something audacious and new? And you'll never win no matter which way you go.

 

Is it a great film? Yes.

 

Is it a great Star Wars film? Yes.

 

But...be wary of all-out raves. No film is perfect and this is no exception. There were a couple of clunky moments and one subplot in particular that did nothing for me.

 

I think it's going to be a divisive film, possibly more so than its predecessor. Will your enjoyment depend on how spoiled you are? Possibly. But having looked at the trailer now I'm glad I did what I did. And I will be doing the same for Episode 9.

 

I'm being incredibly wary of spoilers hence the vagueness. But if you have questions - shoot.

 

It's always a very overwhelming experience seeing a Star Wars film for the first time and I'm still processing it. I am really looking forward to seeing it with a paying audience at the midnight screening on Wednesday night as there are a great many crowd-pleasing moments.

 

And I totally see why Lucasfilm / Disney / Kathleen Kennedy have given Rian Johnson the keys to the kingdom. He GETS it. And I can't wait to see what he comes up with without being bound by the characters and elements he has to work with here.

 

So, go and see it on the biggest, loudest screen you can, enjoy it and make up your own mind.

post #2 of 7627

Did you see it in 3D?  if you did, would you say that it was worth it?

post #3 of 7627

Stop stop STOP IT!

 

... I can only be SO erect before something rips.

 

The possibility that I'm about to see a genuinely flat out no reservations good Star Wars movie has me giddy.

post #4 of 7627

Got my tickets for this wednesday at 11:55 PM....and its my birthday that day.

Glad to know I'll enjoy myself.

post #5 of 7627
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post
 

Did you see it in 3D?  if you did, would you say that it was worth it?


Much to my delight it was NOT in 3D.

 

The Force Awakens press screening was but this was not, oddly enough.

post #6 of 7627
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But if you have questions - shoot.

 

What's the deal with the Force tree?

Does Luke survive the film?

 

It might be best if you provide answers in spoiler boxes.

post #7 of 7627

You don't have to spoiler box this one unless you want to, but is Captain Phasma no longer a lame nothing of a character?  Is Poe more than a BARELY there pulp serial character this time?

post #8 of 7627
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You don't have to spoiler box this one unless you want to, but is Captain Phasma no longer a lame nothing of a character?  Is Poe more than a BARELY there pulp serial character this time?


When are you seeing it Do you really want to know? How spoiled are you?

post #9 of 7627

Thursday night OMG DON'T TELL ME ANYTHING FORGET I ASKED!!!

post #10 of 7627
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Originally Posted by doubledown1138 View Post
 

Do you really want to know?

 

I really want to know.

post #11 of 7627
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Originally Posted by Barry Woodward View Post
 

 

What's the deal with the Force tree?

Does Luke survive the film?

 

It might be best if you provide answers in spoiler boxes.


I'll answer but beware of genuine spoilers below

 

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

 

 

What's the deal with the Force tree?

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
It is in a couple of scene but is never talked about at length or explained

 

Does Luke survive the film?

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Are you sure you want to know this???
post #12 of 7627

Don't tell Barry either!!!
 

(Covers Barry's sweet innocent virgin eyes)

post #13 of 7627
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Originally Posted by doubledown1138 View Post
  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Are you sure you want to know this???

 

More than anything.

post #14 of 7627
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Originally Posted by Barry Woodward View Post
 

 

More than anything.

Really? I feel bad posting spoilers even when they're hidden...

post #15 of 7627

Lay it on me and, while your at it, do we find out who Rey's parents are? Who or what Snoke is? How do they leave things with Leia? What becomes of Kylo Ren? Heck, just give me a summary of all the major beats of the film.

post #16 of 7627
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Can I DM you to avoid the wrath of potential accidental clickers?

post #17 of 7627

Yes please get the hardcore stuff out of here at least for a few days.  Out entirely!!!

post #18 of 7627
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Yes please get the hardcore stuff out of here at least for a few days.  Out entirely!!!


Don't worry. I will not be posting any hardcore spoilers. DMs only if requested

post #19 of 7627

"You have 2 new Private Messages. Click OK to go to your Inbox now."

 

I'm conflicted.

post #20 of 7627
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Originally Posted by Barry Woodward View Post
 

"You have 2 new Private Messages. Click OK to go to your Inbox now."

 

I'm conflicted.

Don't do it. Hold off. Trust me

post #21 of 7627

What are you two Kylo and Rey now?  JUST FUCK ALREADY

post #22 of 7627
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post #23 of 7627

I don't give a shit about spoilers.  I just want the score already.  What happened to the tuesday release date?

post #24 of 7627
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Originally Posted by Barry Woodward View Post
 

"You have 2 new Private Messages. Click OK to go to your Inbox now."

 

I'm conflicted.


It's okay. I didn't send anything spoilery. I just couldn't bring myself to do it...

post #25 of 7627

Whew.

post #26 of 7627
HAHA, Star Wars the only post release thread where people are like “Take that shit to PMs you jackass!”
post #27 of 7627

We dodged a bullet here guys.

post #28 of 7627

Here's a non spoilery question:  Assuming someone didn't care for 'Force Awakens', do you think this one plays better?  I can roll with the occasional clunky scene or plot hole, but does 'The Last Jedi' work better as a whole?

post #29 of 7627

Christ, this thread is the equivalent of having a wank but edging for 4 days.

post #30 of 7627
I’m trying to think of some good questions that aren’t specific enough to really reveal anything but might help make sure expectations are in the right place.

I’m most interested to see if you can tell us more about the subplot that didn’t work for you without messing anything up, or at least whose subplot it is. Is it one of the new characters, Holdo/DJ/Rose/evil BB8 or is it something central/surprising enough that you can’t really say anything without giving it away?

I also keep hearing the whole ‘it doesn’t go where you expect’ refrain in a lot of the reactions so far. Is it more of a ‘what a twist!’ or ‘big reveal’ situation or is the plot just not quite what we think it is from the ground up?

As always, feel free to DM, spoiler tag, no comment, or ignore any request for more info at this point.
post #31 of 7627
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Originally Posted by mondguy View Post
 

Here's a non spoilery question:  Assuming someone didn't care for 'Force Awakens', do you think this one plays better?  I can roll with the occasional clunky scene or plot hole, but does 'The Last Jedi' work better as a whole?


Yes, I think it does. But some of the same problems are also present here. If you really hated The Force Awakens there is still a chance you could like this. Unless it was the new characters you had an issue with.

post #32 of 7627
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I’m trying to think of some good questions that aren’t specific enough to really reveal anything but might help make sure expectations are in the right place.

I’m most interested to see if you can tell us more about the subplot that didn’t work for you without messing anything up, or at least whose subplot it is. Is it one of the new characters, Holdo/DJ/Rose/evil BB8 or is it something central/surprising enough that you can’t really say anything without giving it away?

I also keep hearing the whole ‘it doesn’t go where you expect’ refrain in a lot of the reactions so far. Is it more of a ‘what a twist!’ or ‘big reveal’ situation or is the plot just not quite what we think it is from the ground up?

As always, feel free to DM, spoiler tag, no comment, or ignore any request for more info at this point.


The subplot that felt a bit clunky to me was
 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

Finn and Rose's mission to the casino planet

 

When I say it doesn't go where you expect I mean that in a good way but don't want to say any more

 

Honestly guys, as spoiler-free as possible for this is the only way to go

 

Suffice to say that I really liked it and can't wait to see it again. But it will be divisive. No doubt.

post #33 of 7627

Did you notice the soundtrack at all. Is it generic holding pattern music or did you noticed if it was woven in with the visuals?

post #34 of 7627
Are the spoilers going around Reddit accurate?
post #35 of 7627
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The subplot that felt a bit clunky to me was

  Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Finn and Rose's mission to the casino planet

When I say it doesn't go where you expect I mean that in a good way but don't want to say any more

Honestly guys, as spoiler-free as possible for this is the only way to go

Suffice to say that I really liked it and can't wait to see it again. But it will be divisive. No doubt.
Very cool, and you’re doing the right thing wrong on the side of withholding info. Thanks.
post #36 of 7627

What did you think of John Williams' score? What pieces stood out to you? I realize you don't know the titles, but here's the track list for you to use as a reference:

 

  1. Main Title And Escape (7:26)
  2. Ahch-To Island (4:23)
  3. Revisiting Snoke (3:29)
  4. The Supremacy (4:01)
  5. Fun With Finn And Rose (2:34)
  6. Old Friends (4:29)
  7. The Rebellion Is Reborn (4:00)
  8. Lesson One (2:10)
  9. Canto Bight (2:38)
  10. Who Are You? (3:04)
  11. The Fathiers (2:42)
  12. The Cave (3:00)
  13. Sacred Jedi Texts (3:33)
  14. A New Alliance (3:13)
  15. "Chrome Dome" (2:03)
  16. The Battle Of Crait (6:48)
  17. The Spark (3:36)
  18. The Last Jedi (3:04)
  19. Peace And Purpose (3:08)
  20. Finale (8:28)

 

A snippet from the soundtrack?

 

 


Edited by Barry Woodward - 12/17/17 at 12:05am
post #37 of 7627
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Originally Posted by Barry Woodward View Post
 

What did you think of John Williams' score? What pieces stood out to you? I realize you don't know the titles, but here's the track list for you to use as a reference:

 

  1. Main Title And Escape (7:26)
  2. Ahch-To Island (4:23)
  3. Revisiting Snoke (3:29)
  4. The Supremacy (4:01)
  5. Fun With Finn And Rose (2:34)
  6. Old Friends (4:29)
  7. The Rebellion Is Reborn (4:00)
  8. Lesson One (2:10)
  9. Canto Bight (2:38)
  10. Who Are You? (3:04)
  11. The Fathiers (2:42)
  12. The Cave (3:00)
  13. Sacred Jedi Texts (3:33)
  14. A New Alliance (3:13)
  15. "Chrome Dome" (2:03)
  16. The Battle Of Crait (6:48)
  17. The Spark (3:36)
  18. The Last Jedi (3:04)
  19. Peace And Purpose (3:08)
  20. Finale (8:28)

 

A snippet from the soundtrack:

 

 


I'll be totally honest - I barely noticed the soundtrack. All the new character themes were there from The Force Awakens but the only new one I noticed was Rose's theme which was great.

 

Plus there were a couple of odd bits of recycled score from the OT

post #38 of 7627
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Are the spoilers going around Reddit accurate?


I avoided Reddit and similar sites like the plague so have no idea

post #39 of 7627
If the movie is so good that I forget to notice the score, I think that would be a win.
post #40 of 7627

I didn't have a problem with the new characters, I just don't think 'Force Awakens' did anything interesting with them. (If that makes any sense)

post #41 of 7627

Are porgs the new ewoks?

http://cdn.chud.com/f/f8/f8d84472_TheTroubleWithPorgs.gif

post #42 of 7627
We’re all missing the obvious most important question...

How many pages should we expect in here of in-depth Porg analysis once everyone’s see the movie? Twenty? Thirty?

Inquiring minds want to know.

EDIT: I just posted essentially the same question as Barry at almost the same time, albeit as a joke. I may need to take a break...
post #43 of 7627
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Are porgs the new ewoks?

http://cdn.chud.com/f/f8/f8d84472_TheTroubleWithPorgs.gif


They're fun andnd barely in it

post #44 of 7627

is it true what people are saying about snoke?

post #45 of 7627

Is Snoke developed into an interesting antagonist? I stumbled across a spoiler that suggested

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
he gets no backstory and is killed off unceremoniously by Kylo. Which sounds seriously disappointing.
post #46 of 7627
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Is Snoke developed into an interesting antagonist? I stumbled across a spoiler that suggested

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
he gets no backstory and is killed off unceremoniously by Kylo. Which sounds seriously disappointing.
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This is what happens but it worked for me
post #47 of 7627
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This is what happens but it worked for me

 

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I suppose I'll have to judge how the character is handled for myself, but I was expecting a bit more depth based on Serkis' comments about Snoke's connection to the past and more personal motivations. It's a bit disappointing that he's apparently a nobody. How much screentime does he have compared to TFA?
post #48 of 7627
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I suppose I'll have to judge how the character is handled for myself, but I was expecting a bit more depth based on Serkis' comments about Snoke's connection to the past and more personal motivations. It's a bit disappointing that he's apparently a nobody. How much screentime does he have compared to TFA?
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

He has loads of screentime and is a brilliant presence. Amazing performance and he looks incredible. The moment took me totally by surprise as I had zero knowledge about it beforehand.
post #49 of 7627

This is like being the third wheel at the party while your friends converse in another language.

post #50 of 7627
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This is like being the third wheel at the party while your friends converse in another language.


When are you seeing it out of curiosity?

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