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post #1 of 76
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I've noticed this thing about myself and I'm wondering if anyone else has it:

 

Sometimes here on Chud, and some other discussion forums, people will start dragging a movie that I liked and I get this sort of compulsion to watch it again. And I'm not talking about guilty pleasures that I throw on in a junk food kind of way, but movies that I genuinely think are good to great pieces of work, but that either a majority or very vocal minority of people seem to think are bad to outright terrible. And when discussion turns to them when reading the criticisms I feel that the criticisms are valid and I wonder if I'm crazy, so I have to re-watch and see how I feel. And I watch them again and I'm like "no. Everybody else is wrong. This movie is awesome"

 

Some examples: Tron Legacy, Godzilla (2014), Rogue One (the current discussion in that thread is what's lead me to starting this thread), Chronicles of Riddick, Pacific Rim.

 

So does anybody else have movies like this? What are they?

post #2 of 76
ROBIN HOOD (Russell Crowe)

God help me, I really enjoy this film. It’s not a classic that I love or anything but I end up watching it whenever it’s on and enjoying it.
post #3 of 76

TRON LEGACY AND PACIFIC RIM WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SMOKING?

 

Rogue One was OK, I guess.

post #4 of 76
Pretty much the entire slate of DC movies bar Suicide Squad.
post #5 of 76

THE COUNSELOR

 

I actually do get why so many hate it. Still oddly compelling on my end.

post #6 of 76
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Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post

Some examples: Tron Legacy, Godzilla (2014), Rogue One (the current discussion in that thread is what's lead me to starting this thread), Chronicles of Riddick, Pacific Rim.

So does anybody else have movies like this? What are they?

All of those movies are fine. Your friends are bad friends and they should feel bad.

As far as actual bad movies goes, Plan 9 From Outer Space is endlessly rewatchable to me. If my ship ever comes in, I'd like to own a bar themed around the movie.
post #7 of 76
I’ve watched the Schumacher Bat-films a tragic number of times. Same goes for JAWS 3 and THE REVENGE.

Also, all the lesser Bonds.
post #8 of 76

There was a period in my teens where Hulk Hogan's Suburban Commando always seemed to be on daytime tv during the holidays, I've seen it at least twice.

 

No regrets.

post #9 of 76
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THE COUNSELOR

I actually do get why so many hate it. Still oddly compelling on my end.

My frustration cannot be more frustrating.

There’s likely a hundred examples I can give, but I literally cannot go a single holiday season without the first two Silent Night, Deadly Night movies on tap.

The Problem Child movies and Clifford are two from my childhood that I can’t hang up my love of.

Recently, I’ve become enamored with Boxing Helena. It’s the closest thing to The Room in terms of earnest drama tripping into unintentional comedy.

But my problem is that I cannot feel shame or guilt for most movies I enjoy. You can’t tie yourself to all good movies. You need to know that mistakes can be made.
post #10 of 76
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... I get this sort of compulsion to watch it again ... Rogue One (the current discussion in that thread is what's lead me to starting this thread) ...

Do eeeeeeeet. Do eet naaaoowww.

Clueless buffoons claim it only gets good once they hit Scarif but legit killers like us recognize the opening scene is near perfect and then after grinding its gears through a very small handful of very short post-titles character establishment scenes it's actually quite splendid indeed from Yavin 4 onward (i.e., for the last 90 odd minutes).
post #11 of 76
Fucking DEATH SPA..
post #12 of 76
Starts with Star, ends in Darkness.
post #13 of 76

Kung Pow: Enter the Fist and Pootie Tang come to mind.

Wait, Pootie Tang was directed by Louis CK? Guess that takes it of the list.

 

 

"I love it, despite its shortcomings" is pretty much the definition of this thread.

post #14 of 76
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Fucking DEATH SPA..

 

I just watched the trailer for this the other day (it's on Prime) and it looked like a hoot!

post #15 of 76
TRUST ME on Death Spa. This was my reaction about 3 1/2 years back:
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Rarely does a horror film come along with the insanity to live up to a novelty title. This movie, which is about the ghost of a high-tech gym owner's wife using the technology to kill people, actually does! A needlessly incoherent plot, check. Tongue in cheek, check. Gratuitous T&A, check. Copious gore, body melting and explosion effects, check. Ken Foree, check. A climax like the paranormal panic at the end of Ghostbusters II if KNB did the effects, yep.

It's way too fun and just the right stupid, and then right at the end the female detective on the case of the murders yells "Fuck this computer shit!" while busting circuits. Death Spa, ladies and gentlemen.
post #16 of 76

"The Black Hole" (1979)

 

It is not good by any objective standard.  The acting ranges from passable to flat out weird.  The action is staged badly, and edited even worse.  The tone can't be charted by any device known to mankind.

 

I watch it at least three times a year.

post #17 of 76

The John Barry soundtrack is god level though.

post #18 of 76
The only movie I laughed at harder than Death Spa (and it's pretty much funnier than most comedies AND has a GORGEOUS blu ray that's worth every penny)...is Rock &Roll Nightmare. Me and my buddy laughed till we were doubled over at that crazy thing..
post #19 of 76
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The John Barry soundtrack is god level though.

See also: The Specialist. The film itself is enjoyably trashy, a Bond movie on coke, but you could put that Barry score into one of the Brosnan-era movies and it would sync up without issue.
post #20 of 76
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The John Barry soundtrack is god level though.

Oh indeed. The score had my five year old brain convinced this was the grandest space opera epic of all time.
post #21 of 76
The Specialist is fucking wacky....not only does it have the Helm's Deep of shower sex scenes....it makes literally no sense. I mean, how old is Sharon Stone's character supposed to be? She's like six in the flashback but Eric Roberts looks the same. It's crazy..
post #22 of 76

Always loved the unapologetic weirdness of Howard the Duck. I can see why it was so utterly rejected in the summer of '86. But (pardon the pun) it isn't the turkey everyone labeled it either. I mean even by mid-80's standards, I am shocked this got a PG rating and few-to-little batted an eye. 

 

 

 

 

As much as Marvel/Disney get so much props for being "different" (ahem... not gonna go there), there is no way in Hell they would ever contemplated doing this. Also dawned on me how much Willard Huyck and Gloria Katz were the Elseworlds version of Zemeckis and Gale. What they could have been without Back to the Future (and to a lesser-degree Romancing the Stone).

post #23 of 76
A Chewer friend and I watched a kill count of that movie last month. The deaths in that movie are ZAZ levels of hilariously elaborate.

And yes, I maintain that it has the single worst sex scene of all time.
post #24 of 76

I love the ever-loving shit out of Pacific Rim.

 

I'd say the worst movie I've seen multiple times is Blades of Glory. Any movie which describes Will Ferrell as "ice skating's back door lover" is aces in my book.

post #25 of 76
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Some examples: Tron Legacy, Godzilla (2014), Rogue One (the current discussion in that thread is what's lead me to starting this thread), Chronicles of Riddick, Pacific Rim.

 

 

Also, I legitimately like 4 out of 5 of those movies listed (never saw Chronicles of Riddick)

 

I'll report to nooj for my banishment into the phantom zone.

post #26 of 76
I'm batting 5-0 then. Oh well. If you liked those other ones I feel like you'd like Chronicles of Riddick. I mean......I do!
post #27 of 76
Wait, who the hell gave Nooj the Phantom Zone Device?
post #28 of 76
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"The Black Hole" (1979)

 

It is not good by any objective standard.  The acting ranges from passable to flat out weird.  The action is staged badly, and edited even worse.  The tone can't be charted by any device known to mankind.

 

I watch it at least three times a year.

Its worth watching for Maximillian alone:

 

post #29 of 76

Only thing I remember about The Black Hole was Disney Channel airing it alongside the likes of Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Dune (!?!) at midnight, circa late '90s/early '00s.

post #30 of 76
For me it's gotta be Gods of Egypt.
post #31 of 76
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For me it's gotta be Gods of Egypt.

Lets just go ahead and rename this the Gerard Butler thread.

post #32 of 76
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"I love it, despite its shortcomings" is pretty much the definition of this thread.

I was going for less 'love it despite its shortcomings' than 'looks like somebody said [movie] sucks. Time to watch it again.'

 

There are plenty of movies that I love despite their shortcomings, but never feel a compulsive need to re-watch (like Hellboy and Hellboy II), but others that'll come up in conversation and then somebody will shit on them and I have to watch it.

post #33 of 76

These aren't widely disliked, I don't think.  But lately I have caught a few people giving the side eye to The Martian and Contagion and every time that happens I bung them on again.

post #34 of 76
The Martian ain't that good to be honest. And that's not even touching on it's unrewatchability. It's like Ridley Scott desperately wanted to make a Ron Howard movie..
post #35 of 76
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Fucking DEATH SPA..

I watched this for the first time about a month ago. I'd do it again.

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I’ve watched the Schumacher Bat-films a tragic number of times. Same goes for JAWS 3 and THE REVENGE.

Also, all the lesser Bonds.

A while back, I reached a point where I find Batman & Robin more watchable than Batman Forever​. I can't quite explain it, but I think it's that with Forever​, you can see where it has potential and where it goes wrong. With Batman & Robin, you know it's too late from the beginning, and can just sort of go with it.

post #36 of 76
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See also: The Specialist. The film itself is enjoyably trashy, a Bond movie on coke, but you could put that Barry score into one of the Brosnan-era movies and it would sync up without issue.

 

James Woods may have since* gone on to lose his mind but he makes that film. Without him, it would be unwatchable.

 

*or maybe just stopped hiding it so well - that is also possible.

 

Thank you whoever put this video together, you're doing God's Work.

 

 


Edited by Shan - 2/14/18 at 2:18pm
post #37 of 76
I think it's because Batman & Robin is way more committed to giving zero fucks about how bad it is. And as an adult, Jim Carey's performance as the Riddler is nigh unbearable..
post #38 of 76
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James Woods may have since* gone on to lose his mind but he makes that film. Without him, it would be unwatchable.

*or maybe just stopped hiding it so well - that is also possible.

Thank you whoever put this video together, you're doing God's Work.


 

“FUCK YOU, RAY! Ffffffffffffffffuck YOUUUU!”

Ned Trent is one of action cinema’s unsung villains.
post #39 of 76
Joan Collins and Empire of the Ants gets a yearly spin at least.
post #40 of 76

I jokingly put Message from Space and Starcrash on my list of best Star Wars movies. But you know what? As objectively bad as the acting, FX etc are, the cast and crew show so much obvious enthusiasm (with the exception of Christopher Plummer in Starcrash, who just waits for his check to clear) and seem to be having a ball, that I un-ironically love both movies. 

post #41 of 76
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The Martian ain't that good to be honest. And that's not even touching on it's unrewatchability. It's like Ridley Scott desperately wanted to make a Ron Howard movie..

See this is just a sly attempt to get me to watch it again when you know I've got stuff to do.

Anyway, if it was a Ron Howard movie there'd be all sorts of misty fantasies where he has a wife and kids at home and cut aways to his parents who are just delightfully mid-western and whatever else.  This movie lives its philosophy and gets on with the job.  It's more like if Clint Eastwood had style.

post #42 of 76
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The Martian ain't that good to be honest. And that's not even touching on it's unrewatchability. It's like Ridley Scott desperately wanted to make a Ron Howard movie..

 

I found it useful to help me visualise better the rescue and transfer in space as well as show me something I wanted to see, which was a bit of his return to Earth (the book ended in space after the transfer) but the book is much better than the movie. The whole part of his journey where he goes on the trek from the base to the launchpad to get into space is so heavily truncated in the book that it's virtually not there. I guess the movie format also doesn't really lend itself so well to representing internal monologues in films not called Fight Club.

 

Also, it's part of one of the worst cases of category fraud that I've ever seen with the Golden Globes.

post #43 of 76
I kind of love The Martian. It's such a "Fuck Yeah!" triumphant genuine feel-good film.
post #44 of 76

"I am going to have to SCIENCE the shit out of this."

post #45 of 76

The Martian is great. Ridley Scott's best movie since Thelma & Louise and the most upbeat, human film he's ever made.

post #46 of 76

I bought Valerian to watch again.

post #47 of 76

I seen Sister Act 2 a half dozen times or more.

 

I don't really know why.

post #48 of 76
I think that says all about me that you really need know that I've seen Valerian and Jupiter Ascending and both GI Joes and every Transformers more times than The Martian.

...and I just remembered how hard I've avoided the Sister Act movies over the years. I've never seen one at all despite one or both of them playing on one of the movie channels for like....what, the entire 90s?
post #49 of 76

I would guess that maybe as much as 25% of my DVD/Blu-Ray collection would be appropriate for this thread. So, instead of contributing anything of value, I'll just remind everyone that I have shitty taste and I really don't care. I'll rewatch them all several times and never understand why everyone hates on most of them so much.

post #50 of 76
Fatal Beauty is a fairly reviled Whoopi vehicle that I recently discovered is a very fun and surprisingly fucked up Beverly Hills Cop variant. A murderer’s row of character actors, Tom Holland leaving his horror comfort zone, and seriously, Whoopi’s character has a depressing backstory that almost makes Clarice Starling look like she graduated from the Girl Scouts.

But it has great lines like “People like you are the reason abortion is legal!” and Brad Dourif sneering and acting like a Shane Black henchman.

I really do recommend it when it airs on MGM HD three times a month.
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