Stan Lee and DC???

I don't think anyone's talked about it yet-but it probably won't amount to much. As far as Stan working with DC-Lee has been cut out of a great deal of Marvel's operations for a long time-he's not much more than a figurehead-and one of the only talents of the Silver Age that wasn't shat on by Marvel Comics. Marvel lets him do what he pleases out of (very rare for Marvel) respect-and the knowledge that anything he does won't truly ruin things...

As a creative entity-He was one of the greats, but he tries to remain vital and fails-either because he doesn't have the ideas for it, or because he doesn't have the heart.

As proof, I offer up his 2099 line from years ago-the only book in the line that wasn't a bland, quasi-futuristic take on a current character was the utterly grey, totally boring, Ravage 2099. His scripting on that book was not very sharp, and his attempts at contemporary dialogue were "stilted" to put it politely.

Then again-if he chose to take the DC characters retro-back to their hokey (yet wonderful) stories, melodramatic set-ups, grandiose dialogue, and simple yet striking art-it may be something good-maybe even classic. Hmm...I've managed to pique my own interest...

[This message has been edited by Hot Animal Machine (edited 04-29-2000).]

h.a.m.'s pretty much dead on right about "the man"'s direct involvement with marvel's operations in recent history. a few decades ago, they put him "in charge" of developing hollywood projects, i.e. movies and tv. he was supposed to help push projects like bringing the punisher to the big screen and stuff like the spiderman cartoon on tv. let's just leave it that his track record was hit and miss in this context. i don't know whether it was lack of support on marvel's part (which even at the heights of comic book glory, was always run like a backwater business) or insufficient skill by stan. still and all, it's great to see a legend at work, and hope remains that something unique will come of his upcoming writing shot. but i think both stan and fans will miss the talents of a ditko or kirby on the project.

the king is dead. long live the king.

/willko.

Wasn't Stan Lee the one who sold the film rights to Cannon all those years ago?

And I dug the Doom 2099 comic...

Yes. "The Man" did indeed help to broker the deals that sent the rights to Cap'n America and Spider-Man to Menahem Golan-who later produced the hideous Cap film directed by the crappiest director alive-Albert Pyun. Pyun was later tapped to helm 21st Century Film Corporation's (Golan's 2nd production company-it rose from the ashes of the defunct Cannon) Spidey film. I distinctly remember the ad for the film in Comics Scene back in about '89-'90. It was a mall-costume Spidey, swinging through SPACE, with the Earth in the background. Kathy Ireland was cast as Mary Jane. She had worked for Cannon and Big Al P on Alien from L.A.

Upon rehashing these events in my mind, I recant my earlier statement regarding Lee's inability to RUIN things. All is clear to me now...

HAM, that was my point all along.



[This message has been edited by Quatermass76 (edited 04-30-2000).]

Doom 2099 was EXCELLENT. I loved it way more than any other comic at that time. A bad guy with his own comic was not yet a common thing, and Doom did it better than anybody. Wizard (and this is just one more reason I love givin lovin to that hot, sassy mama named Wizard) gave Dr. Doom the number 1 all-time villan slot. He's got his own friggin country, fer cryin out loud. He's got the means to attempt world domination every Sunday after football. He's badass, and there's a reason.

Dr. Doom was the best thing Stan Lee ever did for us (and if Stan Lee didn't create him, I'm really friggin embarrassed).

I heard about this, and was tempted to decry it because the quote that I heard was that the heroes you thought you knew you don't know, or some such shit. The statement was that Stan Lee is going to write completely new back-stories for all of the JLA heavies: Supe, Bats, GL, Flash, Wonder Woman, and worst of all, J'onn J'onzz.

This sucks. I will have to buy them. ALL.

I have all the 2099 books and LOVED X-Men 2099. There were som egreat characters and I grew to appreciate the art of Ron Lim.

So there! Though I credit Stan the Man very little.

I'd forgotten all about X-Men 2099. That art was beauty. Some cool lookin people. Who was the really old cowboy-lookin guy? Was he Cable or Cannonball or what? He had a red eye, I think...