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Ever been mugged?

post #1 of 51
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Just thinking about this right now. Yesterday I had a funny conversation with a friend, who despite living in Harlem, has never gotten mugged in his neighborhood. He's gotten jumped 3 seperate times in the Upper East Side though, so go figure. (That's funny if you know NYC)

Anyways, I've never been mugged before. I go through a lot of shitty areas and take the 6 train everywhere at all hours of the night, but i've been left alone for the most part. Two times i've almost been mugged though.

The first was on a day I skipped class back in high school. I was outside in Fordham waiting for the bus, when 3 hispanic kids came up to me and asked if I had a bus pass. I said I did and showed it to them when they asked (what can I say, I was a naive kid). One of them grabbed it and started walking away. I ran after him and grabbed it right back...which he didn't like. He threw off his bag, starting shouting about how he was gonna fuck me up, and the girl with him was saying the same. I just kept saying "You ain't getting it, sorry" and stood there. I figured he would've attacked me already if that was what he had in mind, but I was shook up anyway, cause it was 3 against 1.

It didn't get that far anyway, because this kind old black lady starting screaming "YOU LEAVE THAT BOY ALONE!" and the kids ran away. I went over and thanked her, and got into a huge conversation about why kids are mean to each other. Ended up taking the bus with her...that lady felt like my guardian angel.

The other time occured right outside the Virgin Megastore in Times Square. I was standing there, talking to a friend, waiting for a couple others to show up. We were going to a show at roseland...forgot what band, but something heavy with a good pit. So while we were waiting we were approched by this big black dude who asked if we wanted weed. We said, nah, we're good, and he left. A couple minutes later, I feel something pressed against my back, and go to turn, when I hear "Don't fucking turn around. Gimmie your money".

I was completely freaked out inside, but somhow didn't show it. I told the guy "I don't have any money man" and just kept denying it. I had 40 bucks on me. He pressed the barrel more and more into my back and getting angrier, and I just kept denying having money, while suggesting he go mug someone else. Finally...after some thought (it's in daylight, he wouldn't do shit in the middle of times square) I bit the bullet (so to speak) and whirled around to see him- I looked down and saw...a water pistol. The dude gave me a look and ran down the street. I was shaked to shit after that. My friend wasn't able to get a word out through the whole thing, and I couldn't get out out after it ended. At the concert that night I got out a LOT of aggression.

Anyways, I'm afraid to get mugged again. I don't know if it's pride, or honor, or what, but there's just no way I'm going to let someone get the best of me in something like that.

Anyone else been mugged before?
post #2 of 51
I've never been mugged. In his one visit to NYC, my uncle was mugged right in front of my grandparents and they never knew, that's how smooth the operation was.

I think I would have been so pissed at the Water Pistol Bandit I would have chased him and given him a beatdown.
post #3 of 51
I glanced at the title of this thread and thought it said, "Ever been buggered?"

Heh...sorry.
post #4 of 51
Kronos must be spending some interesting quality time with the BEST PICTURE lady.
post #5 of 51
Never mugged, as my hometown is about as peaceful as they get, but in regards to NY - my mother, step-father, sister and I used to go to NY several times a year to go shopping and they picked up real Chinese ingredients, etc, in China Town, blah blah blah. Well it's amazing to me that anyone living in NY for a few months or more hasn't had some kind of incident, because even on these few trips, during which we only really spent about 6 hours in NY, my family went through most of the possible traumas, excepting the more severe ones. Someone pulled the watch off my step-father's hand, our car got seriously broken into - everything was taken - wallets were lifted, etc. Unfortunately, it really biased me against New York as a kid, and I've always been a bit hesitant about going down there, but I'm slowly getting over it. Just bad coincidences, but as a kid that stuff scares the shit out of you.

I admire you, Connigit, for the way you handled your near-muggings. We are so sheltered from crime here that after our car was broken into, I vividly remember my mother just weeping, my step-father stunned, and my sister and I terrified of everything all of a sudden. Our world had been turned upside-down, yet to most people this is almost everyday stuff. Everything's relative, I guess. Since then I've vastly increased in street smarts, but thankfully haven't had them tested very much. Interesting thread. Curious to hear how regular (or irregular) this situation is with others.
post #6 of 51
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Kronos must be spending some interesting quality time with the BEST PICTURE lady.
Heh...

post #7 of 51
Never been mugged, but I have been carjacked.
post #8 of 51
Car's been vandalized several times. Never been mugged though.
post #9 of 51
I was mugged once in NYC. 11st Street between Ave A and 1st Ave. (Near the Raven and Bar on A for you familiar). Lost my front teeth, and my bag. And then I moved back to dc.
post #10 of 51
Was shot one time.

Took a knife another -wait, that was by my ex-wife. Does that count?
post #11 of 51
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ClearKronos Communications:
Was shot one time.

Took a knife another -wait, that was by my ex-wife. Does that count?
Now I want details!
post #12 of 51
Never been mugged. As for NY being dangerous, it is if you are:

a) a tourist (they are easy to spot and easy to mug)
b) alone (it's easier for them to overpower you)
c) in a neighborhood you are not familiar with
d) out in the twilight hours (12-4 a.m. mean drunken people trying to make their way home and who may not be fully alert)

Obviously, there are just some crazy people who will attack anyone, but most muggers admit that they target people who seem distracted or unaware of their surroundings, who are alone, and who seem vulnerable and won't fight back. They want it to be quick and easy.

So to avoid muggings, one should be alert, loud, and ready to rumble! It's served me well for over 20 years of being in NY.

A friend of mine, who is always whistling to himself and always looks like he is day dreaming, has been mugged 4 times (only once in NYC). One time, he woke up on the ground outside of a bar in Buffalo with a transvestite sitting on top of him trying to steal his wallet out of his pants!
post #13 of 51
All good points Deev, and yes, I was schnitty, unaware and out by myself.
post #14 of 51
I lived in NYC most of my life and thankfully have never been mugged - and this is me riding the Subway at 2AM on weekend while in High School.

Never make eye contact with people, that alone could set off some freak. I had a friend who got out of two muggings by acting insane.

The story goes two guys were hassling him for his wallet, then he just got into a fit and started screaming "Worship Me!!, Worship Me" at the top of his lungs. The would be muggers left him alone....

I thought that was a unique way to get out of a mugging...heck I'd recommend it...
post #15 of 51
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prala:
I was mugged once in NYC. 11st Street between Ave A and 1st Ave. (Near the Raven and Bar on A for you familiar). Lost my front teeth, and my bag. And then I moved back to dc.
Was that Stuy Town or Alphabet City, Prala? Just curious as my high school football team used to practice at East River Park...
post #16 of 51
I believe its generally considered verging on Alphabet City, 'cept everyone I know now (as well as my then-real estate agent) referred to it as "The East East Village"
post #17 of 51
11th & A - That's my old stomping ground, and location of one of my favorite restaurants, La Ceiba.

I lived in NYC for 4.5 years and never had a bad encounter like that. Not once. And I have to agree with Diva, a lot of it has to do with how you carry yourself, and your awareness.

In fact, I even lived in a Dominican neighborhood south of Houston and still never got mugged. This was the area where the Smashing Pumpkins guy supposedly copped the "redrum" that killed him.

Go figure.
post #18 of 51
Isn't it The Lower East Side? I think you are out of the East Village once you are south of 8th Street. But in any case, once you hit the lettered avenues, you are in Alphabet City.
post #19 of 51
Yeah, well, I'm pretty sure it wasn't The East Village, but the Lower East Side when I took the apartment, but believe you me, the real estate agents/brokers will try and call it the EV.

post #20 of 51
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So to avoid muggings, one should be alert, loud, and ready to rumble!
-best quote ever. That's also the reason why it's easy to tell apart the true new yorkers from the tourists.

Today I was going to come back here and post that NY really isn't that dangerous, and make pretty much the same points that diva did. But...I was downtown today, and while walking to the 6 train on 23rd to go home, a undercover cop (i hope) chased a homeless guy, tackled him, and sat on him with a gun aimed at his head. Oh well. On a side note- I found it both funny and scary how quickly a crowd grew on the sidewalk...

Kiteless, thanks for the words, and I guess I handled it well, but trust me they scared me too. After the last one I used to pack a knife (and i'm talking a 5 inch buck knife) when I took the subway, or even going to my school which was in fordham- even though fordham isn't that bad. I really am not afraid anymore, people just seem to leave me alone, and i'm not stupid enough to go through really bad areas alone at night.

kittyinjammies- You got carjacked? That's gotta be some scary shit...that's really the last place you'd expect to be in danger. Good thing I don't drive.

As for the rest of my friends-most have never been mugged, except a few exeptions-
-Little japanese friend who chucked a watch at a mugger and ran...which worked, I guess.

-HUGE black dude I used to work roofing with, who got shot twice and mugged on christmas eve. He found god after that and kept bugging me about it.

-Group of friends who were approched outside a bar by some kids- my friend who's a real tough guy/wise-ass takes one look at them and says "What are you, new?" They backed off.
post #21 of 51
Thread Starter 
oh and kronos, you GOTS ta tell us those stories now, can't leave us hanging.

btw...forgive me if i'm wrong, but you divorced your wife right? If so, that's gotta help a lot in court...
post #22 of 51
I think someone tried to mug me on a double-decker bus in London. I was riding it alone one night, and was sitting in the front of the upper-deck. At a stop some guy gets on and sits right next to me, especially odd since I was the only person on the bus. We got to talking, and he kept asking me for money, which I honestly didn't have. The tone of his voice and word selection certainly indicated he wasn't just looking for a handout. He wanted me to take out my wallet and show him I was broke. Failing his mission we just sat and talked, comparing Arsenal to the 49ers until I got to my stop. British hospitality, I suppose.
post #23 of 51
Every city I ever lived in seemed to be really terrible in my area, so now I live in the suburbs where I can walk anywhere without having to act crazy or with a group of friends.

A great place to be mugged is Baltimore. I had two incidents there, one that was successful, although he only got three dollars, and one where the guy wasn't. After I was mugged the first time, I met a guy and he told me that he had lived there for about three months and had been mugged FOUR times.

I just hate that city.
post #24 of 51
She threw a knife at me, I raised my arm to block it. Caught it with my left forearm and the knife stuck like in one of those cartoons. It didn't quite make the boiiiiinngg sound but I had to pull it out. She was angry. Don't recall why, don't care now.

And yes, I'm divorced.
post #25 of 51
Holy shit! And she got custody of your son?!?
post #26 of 51
Zoinks. Thats rough, Kronos. ;/
post #27 of 51
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Diva:
Holy shit! And she got custody of your son?!?
That is fucked up. She throws knives but yet she gets custody.
post #28 of 51
Thread Starter 
That's just insane.

Sorry Kronos.
post #29 of 51
Yep. Sure as shooting, I got mugged.

In Plymouth, Michigan.

Understand: this is like getting mugged in Bedford Falls.

I was going to my car after working the late shift washing dishes in high school and a guy (little, skinny, poorly shaven...) came up behind me and opened his switchblade.

I saw the whole thing in the reflection of the driver side window as I was attempting to unlock the door.

The blade went "Snick."

I turned around and he held the knife to my neck.

Five words were uttered by him during the whole encounter.

"Give me your money," he said.

At the time, (working late at the restaurant during high school, for goodness sake!) I didn't have lint in my wallet, let alone cash.

I told him I was completely broke.

"Shit," he said, and ran away.

Not a particularly violent mugging but a mugging nonetheless.

Peace.
post #30 of 51
I can relate. That's why I'm never worried about muggings -- I have no money to steal. I'm perpetually broke.
post #31 of 51
Never mugged, but my friend got conned outta 40 bucks in front of me. can't remember how it all went, 'cept he was minus 40 bucks.

Downtown Portland in its worst is no where close to other big cities tho.. and I used to roam old town and the park blocks after midnight..

As a teenager I was never scared.. but these days I'm a lot more hesitent to venture alone down there..
post #32 of 51
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Diva:
Holy shit! And she got custody of your son?!?
BUT: I got 40% in court last summer and the next couple of years should prove interesting. He'll be living with me full time soon enough.

None of that was ever brought up in court and she knew for certain I would. That's why the court gave me 40%. That's also why she didn't contest my side. There's a lot more to it. But the bottom line is I received more custody and parental credit than most dads. Other's arrangements are extremely -and unreasonably- restrictive.

The female in the relationship can be violent as all hell and in California they still get the goods in court. Well, representing myself I was still able to really claim a major victory with my judgement. With the help of a really really good document preparer. That and the ex didn't show up for the key hearings! Hell, I might have gotten sole custody if I'd have known that would happen. As it was we thought we were being greedy asking for 40%! Little did I know it would be granted mostly because her side wasn't represented at all. Yet ironically, the court still grants 60% to a no-show. Go figure.
post #33 of 51
Wow. As a small-town Mississippi kid, these stories go a long way towards making me rethink my decision of going to a New York college.

Just so you know you fucked up my education and all. wink
post #34 of 51
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ClearKronos Communications:
BUT: I got 40% in court last summer and the next couple of years should prove interesting. He'll be living with me full time soon enough.
Good to hear. K2 is lucky to have a dad as cool amd loving as you!
post #35 of 51
In 1979, my family moved from Tokyo to NYC. Having lived most of my young life in a safe haven like Japan, I wasn't prepared for the experience that living in Queens would provide:

My first year, in our apartment building a guy was mugged and shot in the head.

Same year I was hit by a car walking to school.

Second year, a couple of guys knocked on our door, asked to use our bathroom in the middle of the afternoon, and my mom, being the trusting (naive) soul, let them in and use it. The bigger guy was taking a shit (with the door open) while the smaller guy was waiting for him in the living room, looking around (scoping the place out? Who knows? I was watching The Smurfs). The big guy finishes, thanked us, and the 2 of them left. A few minutes later, my mom screams at me saying her purse was missing. The Shit Bandit and his accomplice made with about $30 total.

In my fifth year I saw a classmate get mugged not five feet away from me. She was just coldcocked right square in the face and the dude (student from a nearby school) grabbed her necklace and just started dashing, in the middle of the schoolyard surrounded by hundreds of kids. At the time, it was the most absurd, surrealist shit I'd ever seen.
post #36 of 51
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khitcher:
In 1979, my family moved from Tokyo to NYC. Having lived most of my young life in a safe haven like Japan, I wasn't prepared for the experience that living in Queens would provide:

My first year, in our apartment building a guy was mugged and shot in the head.

Same year I was hit by a car walking to school.

Second year, a couple of guys knocked on our door, asked to use our bathroom in the middle of the afternoon, and my mom, being the trusting (naive) soul, let them in and use it. The bigger guy was taking a shit (with the door open) while the smaller guy was waiting for him in the living room, looking around (scoping the place out? Who knows? I was watching The Smurfs). The big guy finishes, thanked us, and the 2 of them left. A few minutes later, my mom screams at me saying her purse was missing. The Shit Bandit and his accomplice made with about $30 total.

In my fifth year I saw a classmate get mugged not five feet away from me. She was just coldcocked right square in the face and the dude (student from a nearby school) grabbed her necklace and just started dashing, in the middle of the schoolyard surrounded by hundreds of kids. At the time, it was the most absurd, surrealist shit I'd ever seen.
wow... i have nothing like that.

my roommate in college hit me with a coffee mug... does that count?
post #37 of 51
Queens sucks. I don't know why anyone chooses to live there.

(Just so it's not taken wrong, I wasn't talking about you, kitch, cuz you were a kid.)
post #38 of 51
I actually miss my old neighborhood. I grew up in Bayside which was a great place to live and go to school. Most of my childhood memories were of the happy kind.

And oh yeah, my car got broken into twice in the past 10 years, both times in LA.

Like Paul Kersey, trouble just follows me from coast to coast, I guess.
post #39 of 51
Quote:
Diva:
Queens sucks. I don't know why anyone chooses to live there.

(Just so it's not taken wrong, I wasn't talking about you, kitch, cuz you were a kid.)
Hey! Watch your mouth....I grew up there. Queens was a great place to grow up and it still is. Just like the rest of NYC it's more crowded now.
post #40 of 51
conditioner is better. i go on last and leave the hair silky smooth.
post #41 of 51
I was raised in Queens as well. That's how I know it sucks!!!!
post #42 of 51
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...my roommate in college hit me with a coffee mug... does that count?
Only if you didn't deserve it.
post #43 of 51
Thread Starter 
Queens is a lot cooler than Brookyln.

Last weekend I ended up in this really shitty area of Brookyln going to the fango convention. My friend decides to park on some real shady block (24 hour deli with bulletproof glass around the counter, right next to a 24 hour laundromat with kids hanging outside...hmm) because the we couldn't find parking anywhere near the place.

Walking back at night was fun. Uneventful but fun. Got a lot of looks from the people hanging out on the street. My friend would've freaked out if they grabbed his Neckromantic dvd and Halloween poster.

Alain I don't agree with you on the eye contact thing. I make eye contact with everyone I walk by (especially at night), and I would think someone looking away from me would mean they're up to something.
post #44 of 51
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Connigit Will Be Heard:
Queens is a lot cooler than Brookyln.
Wow. You must really want me to hate you. I will resist the urge to smack you upside the head because it is evident you have no idea what you are talking about. Plus, you spelled Brooklyn wrong. Sing it with me:

No... sleep...til Brooklyn!
post #45 of 51
Thread Starter 
Wow. I spelled brooklyn wrong twice. I'm retarded.

Sorry Diva

It's funny though, there's always been beef between the bronx kids and the brooklyn kids around here, and although I never really got involved in it, it always made me laugh. I go there once in a while to L'Amours if there's a good show, that's about it. You guys got a lot of skinheads over there.

Honestly I don't know Brooklyn too well, and every time I go there I end up in a shitty area. I know Queens a lot better, and although it's a weird borough, it's a cool place. Not Bronx-cool, but cool.
post #46 of 51
Thread Starter 
Some guy was shot and killed during a mugging a day or so ago in NYC....he had 12 bucks on him.

That's the main reason i'd be afraid of getting mugged...the guy supposedly was the type of person who wouldn't have given up his money...and he died for 12 dollars. Hope I don't get shot for some stupid shit like that...

post #47 of 51
And if you don't carry any money?

Same fate. The asshole will shoot you just because you don't have anything to give up.
post #48 of 51
I got mugged at gunpoint in the 46th Street station in Astoria. On a Sunday in broad daylight, too (I was at the far end of the station, which is closed on the weekends). Happily, I hadn't gone to the ATM yet, so the guy only got $8.00, but it scared the shit out of me to feel that heavy, cold steel against the side of my head. I still have nightmares about it.

On the plus side, this guy was doing jobs all up and down the N and R line, and was eventually caught (I id'd the fucker on a mug shot, as did several of the other victims). He had just gotten out of jail a month earlier in Florida for armed robbery, and probably went straight back to the hoosgow for his Queens spree.

So, allow me to join Diva in sending out a big "Queens sucks" to my one-time borough of residence. Nothin' but love for Brooklyn, though.

post #49 of 51
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ClearKronos Communications:
Same fate. The asshole will shoot you just because you don't have anything to give up.
That's what scared the hell out of me when I pulled out a measley collection of ones from my wallet.
post #50 of 51
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Connigit Will Be Heard:
Alain I don't agree with you on the eye contact thing. I make eye contact with everyone I walk by (especially at night), and I would think someone looking away from me would mean they're up to something.
It's cool man, that was my experience in NYC. Hated making eye contact with people. It served me well.
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