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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
So I'm typing this quickly as I have found myself with a brief respite from the shit I call work (this is why I don't come 'round to play so often).

I have a dilemma and I want your opinions.

STORY:

When I was in Junior High, I had two "Very Bestest Friends Ever". We did everything together, we loved all the same things, we were the only girls in a small fairly upscale "preppie" town who liked movies and heavy metal. We were the misfit girls trapped in a sea of Gitano and Z-Cavarici.

One of us had some problems with her home life. She was very angst ridden in that way that only pre-teens can be. She ended up attempting suicide, so myself and my other friend did what we felt was our duty. We told on her. She was subsequently shipped to a psych ward hospital for young people with mental disorders, drug problems, and/pr depression issues. We called it the "Happy Hospital". She was there about a month, she hated us for telling on her, but we both knew she was secretly relieved.

While in the Happy Hospital, she met another girl from MA (at this time in life I lived in NH where this all happened though I'm a born and bred Masshole). She became good friends with this girl, she confided in her, she complained to her about us yadda yadda. Anywho, in an effort to make a long ass story short (too late) and get back to work, this new girl made it out of the hospital 3 months after our friend and we all of course had to meet. And we did, and to say we hit it off is an understatement. We were grand friends.

As time went by my parents divorced and my Mum brought me and sis back to MA. Very close to where this new girl lived so of course we started to hang out more and more often. Both us being from wacked out broken homes we became closer and closer.

We were quintissential best friends for almost 13 years, until two years ago, when I ended a 5 year relationship with a man I was supposed to marry, but who I had been slowly growing away from for 2 years. He was bad mojo, no drive, no will to do anything worthwhile, full of excuses, didn't want to move out of his mother's and on and on. She was there for me through all of it as we had always been there for each other through everything, from age 12 and on. We had both known this ex of mine for equal amounts of time, though she was always my friend more than his, but she was loya to me while still, at the same time, trying to be there for him.

When things started up between Johnny and I, she was there too. The time span between my final break up with this ex and my correspondence with Johnny are pretty close, however, nothing romantic happened between Johnny and I until I went to see him in November of 2001. I asked my friend to come. I was nervous, I needed the support, she even got a frre plane ticket. I said to her that I didn't know what was going to happen, I'd never done anything like this ever in my life and if things went bad I would need someone immediately whether we left immediately or not. And if things went well, then we could share the happiness right? Like we always did.

Well, things obviously went well. During our stay, Johnny and I spent every minute together. We also, the three of us, had dinner, went to a party, played pool etc. However, unbeknownst to my lovestruck self, the entire time, my friend felt as I was completely ignoring her. I will admit we spent an awful lot of time secluded in Johnny's room, but I did not think it was rude and also, I wasn't quite all there, as anyone who's gone head over heels for another person can attest that it's like living in a fog.

On our last day of the trip, she was hanging out with Johnny's roomate and we hung out together. Johnny and I ended up caught in after Thanksgiving traffic and missed the plane back while she did not, so she had to fly back alone.

When I got home I didn't hear from her for days. We finally got on the phone and agreed to meet up and talk. It went badly. I was called selfish and concieted and cruel. She said I treated her like shit and that I probably must have treated my ex like shit as well if I could do it to her so easily. We have not spoken since then.

I am a pretty stubborn and strong willed person so I managed to get along, but I am still to this day very wounded over this entire ordeal. I do not feel that I was a selfish or horrid person to her. And her bringing my break up into our last conversation pissed me off because I could only assume that my ex had spoken with her and fed her the lies he fed everyone else (that I cheated on him with Johnny in Sept. when I first met him, or that we never broke up until after I met Johnny which is all 100% pure bullshit) I certainly did not do anything untoward to my ex other than live with him a year longer than I knew (deep down) I should've.

And I admit that my behavior in that respect was cowardly and I should've broken things off with him sooner or said something instead of hiding my fears. Had I done that I feel my credibility would've been stronger with her (IE: why hide things from your best friend, you sister? When you never did before) and some others who no longer speak to me. I honestly have just begun to adjust to her absence, although I dream about talking to her a lot.

On Christmas day, Johnny and I went to my Mum's. When my Mum woke up, she came downstairs and we started making our meal. She then asked, "oh did ____ call you?"

My initial reply, stubborn bitch that I am, was "why the fuck would she call me?" My mother said she had called the previous day to wish me a Merry Christmas, and of course, being 2 years out of my loop, didn't know that Johnny had moved here for me and we lived in a whole other town. My mother gave her our number, yet she hasn't called.

What do you think? I am asking you all because objective opinions are always helpful. Should I try to call the last # I have with her name on it (girl moves around more than the frikkin gypsies)? She didn't give a number to my mother. Should I email to the last address I have? Should I remove her from my block sender list on email and IM? I am stubborn, yes, but don't take kindly to vicious accusations like the ones she spit at me. Should I grow up and do something?

Thanks for reading the rambling, I appreciate it, it's time for me to get back to work. I will be back soon I hope, to see your advice.
post #2 of 17
I'm afraid if I were her, I'd feel a little angry as well. Seeing you happy and spending most your time with a new friend must've depressed her a bit when you first went to meet Johnny. One just couldn't help feel hurt even if she genuinely felt happy for your new relationship.

You should try and contact her. She reached out to you again. You shouldn't throw away a potentially good reunion and just disregard your history with her. You could have her back for the rest of your life. There's too much to gain from this. In my opinion, it sounds like you're both at fault and should reconcile.
post #3 of 17
Try to make contact and open a dialog. Much better to have friends than enemies.
post #4 of 17
One of my biggest regrets is falling out of touch with my "bestest friends" because I thought that they didn't want me around.

Be bold. Make the first move. Give 'er a call.
post #5 of 17
if you had no desire to ever hear from her again you wouldn't be asking us for advice, would you? go ahead and unblock her from your email and IM, and try to contact her at least once.

my own similar experience: i had a best friend from elementary school through middle school. in our freshman year of high school she helped another girl spread a rumor that i was some Jew-hating bible-thumping neo-nazi. i think it died down pretty quickly, but i cut her completely out of my life after that. a year or two later she was visiting my neighbor and they came over to my house- imagine my joy. she seemed to want to be friends again but i still wasn't ready to let somebody like that back into my life. i've seen her once or twice since, but not at all lately, and i'd like to contact her somehow to see how she's doing. the last time i saw her she seemed to have grown up and gained a bit more life experience.

so i guess what i'm trying to say is that people can change and she may regret treating you that way. i'm curious to know the outcome of this, if you do contact her.
post #6 of 17
I gotta agree with the other posts here. I, too, have lost far too many friends over relatively small things (although, at the time, they don't seem small of course), and regret it every time. Start slow, unblock her, maybe send her a short email saying hi and checking to see if it's still her address, etc. See what happens. Honestly, what have you got to lose? You already "lost" her, so the worst case scenario would be that things will stay the same, right? Why not swallow your pride (I know it's easier said than done, I'm stubborn that way, too) and give her the benefit of the doubt? If she went out of her way to call you recently, surely she's come around, at least a little bit? If she still acts the way she did before, that's her loss, but if she doesn't, how great would it be to have her back in your life? Good luck, and this is a universal problem, so never feel alone.

By the way, out of curiosity, what area of MA did you live in? I was born, raised, and currently live in Northampton, near Holyoke and Springfield... Ever been here? Nice to see a fellow Masshole on CHUD.

Chris
post #7 of 17
Make contact.
post #8 of 17
Yep. From your e-mail, you can tell you want to talk with her, so make it happen. Friends are great.
post #9 of 17
Call her. Seriously. If she doesn't respond, call back, what not, than the ball is in her court and that's that. You can always try again later on. But I sincerely believe since she "sorta" made that first step, you can make one too.
post #10 of 17
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prala:
Call her. Seriously. If she doesn't respond, call back, what not, than the ball is in her court and that's that. You can always try again later on. But I sincerely believe since she "sorta" made that first step, you can make one too.
exactly...
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
It's good to hear the positive responses. I know that everything you've all said is exactly what I'm thinking, it's just nice to hear it echoed by other people. I will update and letcha know what happens.

And hi Kiteless, fellow Masshole and more-than-likely-hideous-driver!

I was born and raised in Lawrence, MA. I'm a ghetto girl all the way. Can you imagine, moving from Lawrence to New Hampshire? Arg, I kept wondering where all the Spanish kids and black kids and Asian kids were and why there were no sneakers dangling from the telephone wires wink

I've been to Northampton before, I had a shoot at a prep school out there, very pretty place, I'm back in MA now, in Melrose
post #12 of 17
Quote:
girlcreeture:
I've been to Northampton before, I had a shoot at a prep school out there, very pretty place, I'm back in MA now, in Melrose ) [/QB]
creetch, how close is this to springfield? i was there (and stuck there) over xmas.
post #13 of 17
Wow, prala, you were about 20 minutes away from me. Cool. I don't know if I've been to Lawrence, Creetch (ok to use the nickname?), but I know all about the sneakers-on-phonelines areas. I wonder what school you went to (too many to speculate here)... Either way, nice to meet you. Noho is indeed a nice town, but I've lived here far too long. Good luck!

post #14 of 17
I used to go to NoHo all the time. I ran screaming out of Springfield on Friday to go to new york and have a drunken night with friends.
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
[quote]prala
Quote:
creetch, how close is this to springfield? i was there (and stuck there) over xmas.
Springfield is very far from me, I believe something like 2 hours or so. Melrose is North of Boston. Johnny and I are about 20 minutes away from Boston.

I believe the school was Williston Northampton...big ass campus, many buildings, pretty and ritzy. Junior High through Senior year. I have only been there a couple times, both for work.

You wouldn't want to visit Lawrence. It was the arson capital of the country for a while, their schools are always losing accredidation (sp?). It's basically a fallen city, gangs, drugs, etc. It's one of those places that if you live in it or on a bordering town, your car insurance goes up a lot.

As for updates, I'm home from work, and I can't find her #...
post #16 of 17
Try the e-mail and explain abit about where you are in life now and that you miss her and want her to be a part of that life. Worked for me.
post #17 of 17
You should definitely make the effort, if only for your own peace of mind. Extend the olive branch, and if she doesn't take it then you know that the problem is hers, not you.

And from what you posted, I do think she's over-reacting a twadge. Maybe if you'd met Johnny on a girls vacation, and spent all your time with him instead of her, then she'd have reason to be pissed. But she came with you, knowing that you were going to meet Johnny and that there was some super sexy bubbling chemistry going on. You and Johnny hooking up was the whole reason for the trip, so to wig out when that's exactly what happened seems a bit odd. I obviously don't know all the details, but it seems to me that under the circumstances she should've been happy that you and Johnny hit it off so well.
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