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post #1 of 20
2/19/01 at 3:31pm
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Both Blofeld and I have a mandate to keep these here forum alive. We need support.

It is called Franchises and not French-asses. So, please no discussions on Gaelic glutes unless of course it's of the female persuasion or on a Wampa.

Help us out and shout out what you guys wanna see here most and we'll do our evil best to get it right.

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post #2 of 20
2/19/01 at 3:51pm
I thought it was French Asses I volunteere for.

Nevermind.
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post #3 of 20
2/19/01 at 3:57pm
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As did I. Hence the reiteration of what it actually is. The trickery.
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post #4 of 20
2/19/01 at 4:00pm
Blofeld has a 12-inch penis.

**this is a post for testing our moderator abilities**

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post #5 of 20
2/19/01 at 4:08pm
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No. Modestly, he has a 2-foot penis which means that his penis has been stomped on by 2 feet leaving only a quarter inch penile flesh left.

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post #6 of 20
2/19/01 at 4:20pm
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While we continue to dick around with our new found abilities, you guys are always welcome to chime in with suggestions with you want from this forum.

Make this forum grow to be the fat bastard child of Jabba.

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post #7 of 20
2/19/01 at 4:39pm
Note to self: don't argue the "Matrix better than Star Wars" issue.
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post #8 of 20
2/19/01 at 4:40pm
However, feel free to argue why Pricilla: Queen of the Dessert was better than The Holy Trilogy.
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post #9 of 20
2/19/01 at 4:43pm
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Nice to see ya, Coyote.

Priscilla is always great for a few acidic quotes.
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post #10 of 20
2/19/01 at 7:51pm
Science Fiction is Forbidden Planet and The Last Starfighter.

Star Wars is a genre onto itself...
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post #11 of 20
2/19/01 at 10:28pm
SW is Space Opera.
Space Opera is a sub-genere of Science Fiction.
Which is a classification of Speculative Fiction.

(I am so dead.)
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post #12 of 20
2/20/01 at 2:57am
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Question: Why can't it be both?
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post #13 of 20
2/20/01 at 5:05am
Because I am Anakin Skywalker and I say so...
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post #14 of 20
2/20/01 at 4:19pm
Ah, so Battlestar Galactica, Babylon 5, Dr. Who, 2001: A Space Oddessy, Frakenstein....these are all fantasy as well?
They're all heavily influenced by myth, which is what I assume you meant. But so is alot of Star Trek (the episodes, at least, although certain elements of The Wrath of Khan just scream Greek mythos, with a healthy dose of Shakespeare...I mean, come on...a captain/king strands a dangerous man, the man later escapes and wreaks vengence on his family and friends?)
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post #15 of 20
2/20/01 at 6:21pm
No, the films you listed are indeed Science Fiction...
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post #16 of 20
2/21/01 at 10:58pm
So then, B5 isn't science fiction, being EXCEEDINGINGLY rooted in myth?
Myth is, essentially, basic truth told through comedy and drama. Blade Runner was heavily rooted in myth, for that matter, from Icarus to the Old Testament. On the SURFACE, it's tech applied to humanity. At its core, it's myth.
Science Fiction is the application of science to relate a tale. Space Opera is playing fast and loose with scientific principles (Alfred Bester wrote science fiction, but The Demolished Man is Space Opera). Hard Science fiction is the exact opposite,
Lois McMaster Bujold unquestionably writes science fiction. Yet, the science props in the books are just a framework to hang the plot on, the stories work just as well if you recast them in the 1700. With afew tweaks).
Star Wars uses the props of science to tell a story. It's loose with it, hence Space Opera, much like Star Blazers or Leather Godesses of Phobos.
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post #17 of 20
2/22/01 at 12:12am
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Hence the title Sci-Fi Fantasy.
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post #18 of 20
2/23/01 at 1:32am
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But isn't this just an exercise of pedantic semantics? The whole trilogy is fantasy driven while it's foundation is grounded Sci-Fi.

Why choose just ONE genre when you have BOTH? Actually, why even bother with genre?
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post #19 of 20
2/23/01 at 6:56pm
Because people get pissy when we use "speculative fiction."

And because "Space Opera" is the traditional term. Shadowrun is science fantasy.
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post #20 of 20
2/24/01 at 1:22am
"Take the sci-fi out of "Star Trek" and you don't have much."

You have a western. "Frontier" is even in the opening monologue. It was sold as a western in space to the networks. Kelly was an established western actor. Mr. Spock is the equivilent of Tonto....alien to the rest of the heroes, but wise. The saucer section of the Enterprise looks like a wagon wheel. (ok, now, I'm just gettin' silly.)
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