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post #1 of 24
2/19/01 at 6:17pm
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Perhaps with the recent DVD box release of the franchise these films have received recent viewings by many of you.

Favorite film?

For me, it's been YEARS since seeing any of them, and I'm not certain I EVER saw the last few.

I remember liking the first one a great deal. I only remember the mutant underground dwellers and the missile in Beneath ... other than that, my memory fails.

Recommendations?
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post #2 of 24
2/19/01 at 7:57pm
Planet of the Apes runs three movies in my book and thats "Planet," "Beneath," and "Escape."

After that it's just in search for the almighty dollar...
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post #3 of 24
2/19/01 at 7:59pm
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I'm just going to have to see these again.
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post #4 of 24
2/20/01 at 1:15am
The first one is great, and the book it's based on is pretty solid too.

The second is absolutely horrible and looks a lot like Flesh Gordon.

The third is more boring than anything and I felt it just never took off. Also the apes were indeed created in the past, but the super intelligent apes are never actually created. This problem also arises with the Terminator movies.

The fourth is pretty good, but i'm still curious how that small group of apes is able to conquer the world.

And the fifth looks more like a cheesy Mad Max rip off than anything and is really quite sappy.

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and a voice was screaming: Holy Jesus! What are these damn animals
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post #5 of 24
9/6/09 at 3:15pm
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Originally Posted by devilf View Post
What was missing from the series was one last connecting film. The series needed to loop back to the first movie, and since the fifth ends with humans and apes living in peace, we need a film that explains to us how things ended up where they were when Taylor showed up. Of course, it is possible to take the ending as a way of saying that the future is not written, but I think that the statue crying is meant to auger poorly for the future of the peace between human and ape. Anyway, this sixth movie is the one that Burton should be making, but I suppose it would be hard to come along and do that now, thirty years later.
Wife got me a blu-ray player for my birthday, so of course the first thing I opted to watch was the making of feature located on the Battle For The Planet of the Apes disc.

Some good info on a little 15 minute doc about Paul Dehn's initial script, which is pretty much what you describe above. Dark, hate-y, nihilistic as shit. Caesar ends up authorizing surgery on humans to take away their power of speech, and getting all kinds of fascist on them.

Also love that this box set has both versions of Conquest and both versions of Battle. (And isolated score tracks for both!) The CGI John Huston Lawgiver intros are a bit much. John Landis is a human in Battle. Going to dive into the first disc later tonight.

And damn, look at pre-Phantom of the Paradised Devin hating on Paul Williams. Damn.
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post #6 of 24
9/7/09 at 4:48am
I finally watched the first film for the first time years after hearing a friend (a Serling nut) sing its praises. I was actually afraid that this film would end up being like The Shining for me, where years of being exposed to parodies (chimpan-A to chimpanzee!) and references would take away most of its power.

I was delighted to find that this was not the case. Sure the ending had been spoiled for me YEARS ago, but what's fantastic about the story is that the reveal was not an afterthought. Watching Heston's performance, the character was set up so well from the beginning that I dreaded the eventual ending.

I was also glad to find that most of the film had never been spoiled for me despite the parodies and references. It took me a bit to get into the film, but once I got it I became fully invested.
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post #7 of 24
9/7/09 at 1:17pm
Paul Dehn's much darker first outline (well, 68 page rough script) of Battle.
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post #8 of 24
9/7/09 at 2:45pm
Cool, thanks Phil.
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post #9 of 24
9/8/09 at 12:39am
It's a much more direct sequel to Conquest, right down to the looting and rioting. Can't believe it's online after hearing about it for years.

And not to be that guy, but the early Forbidden Zone sequences of the original are kind of gorgeous on Blu-Ray.
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post #10 of 24
9/8/09 at 4:34am
No kidding about the "dark". That imposter psychiatrist guy would have been a classic guy-you-love-to-hate role.
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post #11 of 24
9/11/09 at 7:23pm
Linda Harrison was pretty hot in the original, but she's a damn knockout in Beneath. True story.

Want:

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post #12 of 24
9/14/09 at 12:20am
The detail on Ursus' face is frighteningly impressive. Not only have they captured the simian facial features perfectly, they've managed to replicate James Gregory's particular glare.

Also like the slack (bunching) on the pants. A dimension of verisimilitude that goes a long way on a figure like this.
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post #13 of 24
9/14/09 at 12:46am
The Japanese love their detail.

Metal garbage can covered in Charlie's Angels stickers, currently at $4 on Ebay.
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post #14 of 24
9/21/09 at 1:08pm
Phil:

Is the Blu Ray edition definitely worth picking up (the box set)?

How good do they look compared to the latest DVD editions?

And how is that director's cut of Conquest?
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post #15 of 24
9/21/09 at 1:14pm
Recommended for the extended cuts of Conquest and Battle alone.

I like the book that comes with the box set, but if you just want the movies, get the individuals - the disc storage within that box set is for shit.

I never got the previous DVD editions, so I was upgrading from non-anamorphic DVDs. Each movie has a new featurette (except the original, which has the feature length Behind The Planet of the Apes). Definitely worth picking up if you're a fan.
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post #16 of 24
9/21/09 at 2:08pm
Oh, big fan here.

I suppose it's best to just snag this. Sadly, I never purchased ANY of the DVD releases. I still have my VHS boxset. Ha!

Thanks for the input. Trying to line up what my 'priority Blu Ray buys' will be when I upgrade around xmas time.
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post #17 of 24
9/25/09 at 2:32am
Psst-

http://www.amazon.ca/Planet-Apes-40t...3716355&sr=8-1
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post #18 of 24
9/25/09 at 10:49am
Uh oh. It's payday too.
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post #19 of 24
12/29/09 at 2:50pm
I watched three of the four sequels for the first time this weekend, and I was overall pleased with the quality of two in particular, Beneath and Conquest. I know Conquest is a fan-favorite around here, so that wasn't too much of a surprise, but Beneath definately caught me off guard. Considering that Ted Post is behind two of the most boring action films I've seen (Hang Em' High and Magnum Force), I was expecting a two hour bore-fest. Oddly enough, the movie is pretty tight and the introduction of the new astronaut works quite well.

I'm going to be watching Battle for the Planet of the Apes, later today, so I was wondering if anyone knew if the DVD that was released with the Legacy Collection includes the Director's Cut?
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post #20 of 24
12/29/09 at 2:52pm
Whatever the last DVD release was has the extended cut of Battle, I think. Details should be on Amazon's listings.
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post #21 of 24
1/1/10 at 6:07am
I love this franchise from top to bottom, warts and all, with the original and Conquest being my favorites.
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post #22 of 24
7/28/10 at 12:57am
I'm sure fans of this franchise and of Serling have already seen this, but it was news to me.

http://theforbidden-zone.com/media/tzone.shtml

EDIT: Never mind. The whole thing has been taken down.

EDIT2: But you can download a Quicktime mov of it below.
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post #23 of 24
6/20/11 at 3:46pm

Caught this on CinemaRetro today.  The Film Forum in Manhattan's going to be running PLANET for one week, July 8th to the 14th.

 

http://www.filmforum.org/films/planet.html

 

To say I'm stoked for this would be an extreme understatement.

 

 

 

 

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post #24 of 24
10/21/11 at 4:33am

Now that the franchise seems to be revitalized, what direction would you like to see it take in future installments?

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