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post #8501 of 8554

So I guess Johnnie To's Three is basically his version of the finale of Hard Boiled. That gunfight was incredible.

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I've been dying to watch it!
post #8503 of 8554

In this sad depressing world, its heartening to know this exists.

 

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I picked up a DVD of Johnny To's THREE in Chinatown recently but it was a really bad boot with no subs. I think Well-Go just put it out, didn't they?
post #8505 of 8554

Derek Yee's Sword Master is a pretty faithful re-do of the Shaw Bros. classic Death Duel. It's certainly visually imaginative, if nothing else.

post #8506 of 8554

Yesterday I re watched Yimou Zhang's House of Flying Daggers. Certainly a masterpiece.

post #8507 of 8554

I watched the first Lone Wolf and Cub film the other day, it was awesome. There was more going on than I expected. The backstory and the odd adventure in the 2nd half were all great.

 

Needless to say, I did not expect the dilemma with the prostitute threatened by the gang to go the way that it did. You don't see that in your average US film.

 

I might spring for the Criterion box set of all six movies around Christmas time.

post #8508 of 8554

Good to see this thread is (somewhat) still alive.  I guess I'll add my own:

 

The Villainess

 

 

 

I was looking forward to this because all I've heard about the movie is that the action sequences were fucking bonkers. And they are! The first scene is nearly 10 minutes of the main protagonist fucking dudes up, all in first person. Than later on, engaging in a swordfight with two guys--all while on a motorcycle. There's some crazy stuff here; the problem, I think, is that it's the sort of thing that doesn't really sustain itself as a full-fledge movie. And that's largely because the actual drama is so needlessly complicated that I stopped caring. It's not enough that the protagonist wants revenge on the guys who killed her father, but eventually she wants revenge on the guys who killed her husband. Oh, and also she's employed by some secrete organization as a sleeper cell, and might be carrying on a relationship with a man who may have been one of her handlers. It's one of the cases where it should kept it simple (stupid).

 

Basically you can probably get all you need from the film just by youtubing The Villainess' sequence. Which is a shame because I really, really wanted to love this.

post #8509 of 8554

I forgot about this thread as well, but wanted to recommend a movie I saw during the horror challenge: Under the Blossoming Cherry Trees, an incredible film featuring a ton of severed heads.

post #8510 of 8554

Just did The Chaser, Korean film from 2008.

 

It was pretty good, but I wasn't wild about it. It reminded me of the style of I Saw The Devil. The balance of drawn out comic absurdity combined with drawn out suspense isn't one of my favorite tones, but they did it very well.

 

In the film's version of the South Korean justice system, it's impossible for criminals to be charged with murder, no matter what kind of psychopath they are. This is very frustrating for the protagonist.

post #8511 of 8554
Yeah. South Korean cinema is all about how either incompetent or outright corrupt the law is.
post #8512 of 8554

It so burns me that American DVD releasers have basically thrown up their hands at the films of TAKASHI MIIKE.  My favorite still-working Japanese director has made something like a dozen movies in the last few years that still don't have Region 1 representation.  Sure, we got releases of 13 ASSASSINS and HARA-KIRI.  And BLADE OF THE IMMORTAL is in theaters.  But there's so many that could be out here and aren't.  Lame.  

 

Seems if I want to add physical copies of these to my collection, my only recourse is 35-dollar imports or 12-dollar bootlegs.  

post #8513 of 8554

I dove in head first with Miike recently. I've really been missing out. This guy gets it.

 

The first one I watched was Yakuza Apocalypse. What a blast! I've been wondering if it's a one-off, or if there was any previous Miike Cinematic Universe stuff it built off of.

 

Then I went through Audition, Visitor Q (perfect double feature for a first date), and The Happiness of the Yamadas.

 

So I guess I've only got about 96 more to go?

post #8514 of 8554
I'd recommend FULL METAL YAKUZA and GRAVEYARD OF HONOR. Maybe IZO, though that's more of a repetitive exercise and GOZU for something a little David Lynchian. And the granddaddy of the Yakuza Miike experience, ICHI THE KILLER.

Then again if someone were to ask me which Miike films I'd recommend most, I'd probably just say ALL OF THEM.
post #8515 of 8554

Walked into my base's store and randomly came across Takashi Miike's Dead Or Alive trilogy on blu-ray. I have no idea what it was doing there...

 

I have to believe it materialized itself in front of me so I could buy it.

 

Which I did.

post #8516 of 8554

Miike's Happiness of the Katakuris is pretty damn amazing. Weirdest musical ever?

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Originally Posted by Ska Oreo View Post
 

Good to see this thread is (somewhat) still alive.  I guess I'll add my own:

 

The Villainess

 

I was looking forward to this because all I've heard about the movie is that the action sequences were fucking bonkers. And they are! The first scene is nearly 10 minutes of the main protagonist fucking dudes up, all in first person. Than later on, engaging in a swordfight with two guys--all while on a motorcycle. There's some crazy stuff here; the problem, I think, is that it's the sort of thing that doesn't really sustain itself as a full-fledge movie. And that's largely because the actual drama is so needlessly complicated that I stopped caring. It's not enough that the protagonist wants revenge on the guys who killed her father, but eventually she wants revenge on the guys who killed her husband. Oh, and also she's employed by some secrete organization as a sleeper cell, and might be carrying on a relationship with a man who may have been one of her handlers. It's one of the cases where it should kept it simple (stupid).

 

Basically you can probably get all you need from the film just by youtubing The Villainess' sequence. Which is a shame because I really, really wanted to love this.

I agree with you here. I picked this up on a blind buy. I wanted to like it more, but it was overly complicated.

 

The wackiness of the action scenes was there, but as you said, too nutty to really get behind.

 

I was hoping for something better.

post #8518 of 8554
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I'd recommend FULL METAL YAKUZA and GRAVEYARD OF HONOR. Maybe IZO, though that's more of a repetitive exercise and GOZU for something a little David Lynchian. And the granddaddy of the Yakuza Miike experience, ICHI THE KILLER.

Then again if someone were to ask me which Miike films I'd recommend most, I'd probably just say ALL OF THEM.

His films are so varied in term of tone that it is hard to recommend the right one to people, as you have to know what they like.

 

Stuff like 13 Assassins and Audition are his most mainstream, but shit like Visitor Q will send people in the opposite direction.

 

I also wish they would release more of his titles in the US, as I used to have to always import them, but I don't have a region free player anymore.

post #8519 of 8554
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Originally Posted by Kyle Reese View Post
 

Just did The Chaser, Korean film from 2008.

 

It was pretty good, but I wasn't wild about it. It reminded me of the style of I Saw The Devil. The balance of drawn out comic absurdity combined with drawn out suspense isn't one of my favorite tones, but they did it very well.

 

In the film's version of the South Korean justice system, it's impossible for criminals to be charged with murder, no matter what kind of psychopath they are. This is very frustrating for the protagonist.

I dug The Chaser. I really enjoy the South Korean films.

 

You have to watch the "Vengeance trilogy" that Park Chan-wook did to see some of the best, but there were quite a few good films out there.

post #8520 of 8554
Originally Posted by Kyle Reese View Post

So I guess I've only got about 96 more to go?

 

Of the 67 or so Miike films I've seen, I only didn't really dig two, HAPPINESS OF THE KATAKURIS (too wacky for me) and PHOENIX WRIGHT: ACE ATTORNEY (too dull).

Still...   65 out of 67 ain't bad.

 

I'm still hoping all of his films' original scores get released someday.  I have quite a few, but there are so many more to get.

 

post #8521 of 8554
Originally Posted by Electrichead View Post

I also wish they would release more of his titles in the US, as I used to have to always import them, but I don't have a region free player anymore.

 

If you use VLC Media Player on your PC, it can get around region coding!

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Yeah, you guys gave me that tip in the B-movie thread, and it worked great, opening up all the old discs that I have and haven't been able to see in awhile.

 

Sometimes I just like to watch something on my regular TV setup.

post #8523 of 8554
I enjoyed Happiness of the Katakuris thoroughly. The song lyrics cracked me up, and the stylistic flourishes were like Wes Anderson possessed by demons. Maybe he watched this before he made Moonrise Kingdom?

I have seen all of the Vengeance trilogy, too. Mr.Vengeance was interesting, but I felt like there was something about it I didn't quite get. Lady Vengeance was great, though.
post #8524 of 8554
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Originally Posted by Electrichead View Post

 

You have to watch the "Vengeance trilogy" that Park Chan-wook did to see some of the best, but there were quite a few good films out there.

The Vengeance trilogy is great, but The Handmaiden might be his masterpiece (although I love Oldboy and Stoker).

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I consider the Vengeance Trilogy to be like music...

 

Mr. Vengeance - Indie or Punk Rock

Old Boy - Classic or Hard Rock

Lady Vengeance - Orchestral or Opera

 

I like them all but yeah, Mr. Vengeance is the one I've revisited the least.

 

Which reminds me: I still need to see The Handmaiden.

post #8526 of 8554
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Originally Posted by Engineer View Post
 

I consider the Vengeance Trilogy to be like music...

 

Mr. Vengeance - Indie or Punk Rock

Old Boy - Classic or Hard Rock

Lady Vengeance - Orchestral or Opera

 

I like them all but yeah, Mr. Vengeance is the one I've revisited the least.

 

Which reminds me: I still need to see The Handmaiden.

It's funny that you list them that way.

 

Oldboy is the one that I have watched the most, and Classic/Hard rock is my favorite kind of music.

 

I still need to see The Handmaiden myself.

post #8527 of 8554

Did anyone watch Miike's Yakuza Apocalypse?

 

 

It's about bunch of Vampiric Yakuza members taking on demons. Takes a bit to get going but once it does.....Frog Bruce Lee is really all that needs to be said.

 

Also Miike at his most shonen: Crow Zero.

 

post #8528 of 8554
Watching YAKUZA APOCALPYSE right now, actually. I saw CROWS ZERO and thought it was okay but a bit overlong, so I haven't been in a hurry to see CROWS ZERO II. I should give it another look.
post #8529 of 8554

Finally got to see Joint Security Area (2000)

 

 

 

I loved this so much. Park Chan-Wook has to be one of the 10 best directors in the world. The tension, the style, the surprising and overwhelming emotion ... he's a master.

Also, Song Kang-Ho is excellent in this. If he's in it, it's almost a guarantee that the movie will be great. I want to check out A Taxi Driver from last year, solely because he's the star.

post #8530 of 8554

I love JSA so much!

 

EXCEPT for anything in it involving actors that speak english....

 

 

but the main story is just so gripping that everything else just fades away anyway!  I LOVE LOVE LOVE that pan and zoom out from the photo at the end of the movie.

 

Song Kang-Ho is fantastic in A TAXI DRIVER.  The movie itself is more of a crowd-pleaser than JSA for sure.  But I think it really works as a what-if take on a terrible time in Korean history.

post #8531 of 8554
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Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
 

I love JSA so much!

 

EXCEPT for anything in it involving actors that speak english....

 

 

but the main story is just so gripping that everything else just fades away anyway!  I LOVE LOVE LOVE that pan and zoom out from the photo at the end of the movie.

 

Song Kang-Ho is fantastic in A TAXI DRIVER.  The movie itself is more of a crowd-pleaser than JSA for sure.  But I think it really works as a what-if take on a terrible time in Korean history.

It's a little jarring seeing English speaking actors who are obviously overdubbed, by themselves I presume? I noticed the same thing with Scott Adkins during Wolf Warrior. (I also just remembered that Mike Tyson was overdubbed by a different voice in Ip Man 3 . . . maybe people who didn't know him would have laughed at his voice?)

You're so right about that final shot. So skillfully done and crushing at the same time. 

I read a little bit about A Taxi Driver...do you think learning more about Gwangju would help me appreciate the movie more? My knowledge of Korean history is fairly rudimentary (although that didn't detract from the power of JSA one bit for me).

post #8532 of 8554

Mine is really rudimentary as well.  Actually more like non-existent.

 

I think the movie brushes you up fine and it goes for fairly broad strokes anyways.  As I said... it's built much more like a studio crowd-pleaser as opposed to something like JSA.  It's not really going for a history lesson at all (though neither was JSA... ehehe).

 

For me, I thought it was perfectly fine to enjoy the film on its own and then read more about it afterwards for post-viewing enrichment.  I put up several links about the history of the Gwangju incident in the thread I started for the movie, if you're interested.

post #8533 of 8554

Looks like A Taxi Driver will be available on Hulu starting 2/7.

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A Better Tomorrow (2018) Trailer

 

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I'm in.  Looks better than the 2010 remake, anyway.

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In fact, recently The Projection Booth Podcast did a four-hour episode on Woo's A BETTER TOMORROW and other works...

 

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/projectionbooth/2017/12/26/episode-350-a-better-tomorrow-1986

post #8537 of 8554
Rewatched Chawz. Just a really entertaining flick with a great sense of humour, fun characters, and cool monster stuff a la Tremors and Lake Placid. Thinking about how that group of morons can't stop falling down the steep hillside and knocking each other over still has me chuckling.

I see the director also made a film called Ghost Sweepers a couple of years ago. Anyone seen it, and if so is it worth tracking down?
post #8538 of 8554
Thread Starter 
Saw John Woo's MAN HUNT.

It's been years since I've felt such douche chills.

Wow.

It's worse than I could've ever imagined.

Senility is a bitch.

His healthy daughter (dead-ringer for papa) plays a badass killer and still isn't the worst thing in the movie.

Oh man, this was depressing.
post #8539 of 8554

Looks like i made the right decision giving this a miss.

 

Seen any Jackie Chan's latest films, Isao?

post #8540 of 8554
oh no....

say it ain't so!!!
post #8541 of 8554
I didnt even know Woo had a new film out.


I still kind of want to see it.
post #8542 of 8554

 

Wow.

 

The guy slow-mo leaping onto the jetski is like a miniaturized Face/Off scene. The whole thing has a DTV vibe.

post #8543 of 8554
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Originally Posted by Mangy View Post
 

Looks like A Taxi Driver will be available on Hulu starting 2/7.

Just a reminder that this is now available. Look forward to watching it this weekend.

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Woo's never let me down with his HK stuff, so I'm prepared to give MANHUNT a chance.  Plus I haven't even had an opportunity to see THE CROSSING yet.

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I have yet to see the two-movie THE CROSSING either!

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I watched the South Korean political revenge thriller Inside Men last night and it was quite good. I found it interesting how it delved into the nepotism of their political system and how connections played a pivotal role in whether you succeed or not. 

post #8547 of 8554
Choi Min-Sik. Love him for I Saw the Devil, Oldboy, etc. One of those actors you just can't take your eyes off (even when the camera is lingering on him rooting around in his own excrement). A few movies of his that I've never seen are available to watch through various streaming services:

Nameless Gangster
The Mayor
The Tiger

Any opinions on these/any must-sees? From the basic premise The Tiger sounds like it would be right up my alley, but I googled it and the reviews seems to be mixed...
post #8548 of 8554
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Originally Posted by Kyle Reese View Post
 

 

Wow.

 

The guy slow-mo leaping onto the jetski is like a miniaturized Face/Off scene. The whole thing has a DTV vibe.

 

The mere fact Ha Ji-won is in the cast means I'm definitely seeing this. I didn't need to see the cast list, I knew it was her just from the image for the video before I even clicked play.

post #8549 of 8554
Originally Posted by Disciple_72 View Post
Choi Min-Sik. Love him for I Saw the Devil, Oldboy, etc. One of those actors you just can't take your eyes off (even when the camera is lingering on him rooting around in his own excrement). A few movies of his that I've never seen are available to watch through various streaming services:

Nameless Gangster
The Mayor
The Tiger

Any opinions on these/any must-sees? From the basic premise The Tiger sounds like it would be right up my alley, but I googled it and the reviews seems to be mixed...

 

NAMELESS GANGSTER is okay.  Not great but decent.  I just got THE TIGER from the library and watched the trailer last night (looks great to me) but haven't watched it yet.  It's in the to-be-watched pile with THE VILLAINESS, FOR LOVE'S SAKE, LESSON OF THE EVIL, WHY DON'T YOU PLAY IN HELL?, KUNG FU YOGA, RAILROAD TIGERS, SHOCK WAVE, SKY ON FIRE, THE ADVENTURERS and a few others.

 

Choi Min-Sik rules.  I also love CRYING FIST.

 

 

post #8550 of 8554
You haven't seen Why Don't You Play In Hell? yet?

FIX THAT.
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