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Did you state this in class? Did the professor disagree? Could it be that he wasn't saying that what happened wasn't "wrong," but that there were simply things that led to it other than "wrong-ness?"

I don't know his motivation, obviously, but I'm just sayin.'

<strong> This doesn't seem particularly liberal or conservative. He probably just didn't want things to get unruly, especially if it was off-topic. A stupid comment like that speaks for itself, so he was probably doing the 'asshole' a favor by not letting the conversation continue.

Off topic: Dave, may I ask what your sig is from?

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[quote]Ned Fats:
Good one...hey, I know when I'm "got".

I should have said "radical left".

DePalma's Phantom of the Paradise

Yep, one professor nipping one shouting match in the bud before it starts then carrying on with the lesson is clearly an indicator of the liberal agenda.

Which, considering the massive bend to the left the American government has taken in recent years, is clearly a powerful force in politics. Sheesh.

If more political science professors ran for office, the political leanings of the academic scene might mean something. But it seems to be all businessmen and lawyers in Parliament.

Oh, and the White House too.

Got that in one.

Nice work, Dev. Never mind that the Cultural Revolution was a product of far left thinking, not far right thinking.
I won't comment on the other huge leaps in logic you make here.

You are forgetting what Political Science professors study - Political Science. One of the leaders in the field, Gaventa, hypothesizes that there are different levels of political influence. One is direct pressure (I say vote this way...or else). The second is indirect pressure (you have only this option). The third (and most powerful) is through teaching (you learn only this option). This is a very simplistic dumbing down, but suffice it to say, liberal influence in the schools is these people working to shape the future, not to have short-term electoral gains.

And what of those of us with political opinions and no poli-sci credits?

Not everyone goes to university, and not everyone who goes to university takes political science. I honestly don't think the political science professors are that powerful a force. Just loud sometimes.

They may want to be a powerful force, but they're not.

If they are trying to "shape the future", I imagine they were trying to do the same ten years ago. And there America sits in Republican paradise today. Were political science faculties hardcore conservatives ten years ago? Most likely not.

[quote]Nick Luskmonster:
How about art?

Problem isolated. Sociology is empericist bosh. Academic carrion with enough political decay to attract ignorant do-gooders like little Orwellian flies. And do those flies buzz. Fortunately, it's all wind; one can hold their breath, walk through, and never look back. The flies will won't see you for the shit.

Personally, I found sociology disturbingly dogmatic, left-wing to the point of inanity, and so frustratingly unscientific I wondered if the University had a clue what they were endorsing. There, straight from the mouth of the biggest liberal on CHUD.

Got a 2, huh?

I agree with what you're saying. If they wanted to influence the youth, they should start younger than college. Nevertheless, that's the mindset, and that's why they are where they are rather than in national politics.

"By no means am I saying that this applies to all liberals or schools, but its my example."

What part of this statement was unclear?

Unfortunately they have already started.

California is awash in liberal teachers who stifle the freedom of expression and speech of conservative opinions. College, high school, Jr High, Elementary, it doesn't matter.

Your proof of this would be?

What it's an example of. Doesn't sound like the furthering of an agenda, sounds like he's keeping the peace in his classroom.

Did he do this often? Always picking on the same half of the class? Just curious.

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Oh, he went to school in "California."

Gotcha. Didn't realize there was but one school there and that it had the same name as the state.

I've never had an activist teacher or professor. And with the understaffing in that profession, does anyone really believe schools can afford to discriminate and selectively pick predominantly "liberal" teachers?

My brother has been a teacher for years to high school students. His worldview has never been a part of that other than to present the material as he has been instructed to. About the only thing he helps "fill the blanks" in on is black history, being that he's a black teahcer and teaches a predominantly black class.

For some reason, I suspect even THAT is "liberal" to some people.

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I don't see how ANYONE's comments on the educators of California can be "on the mark" without wide-reaching polling and hard data. Anecdotal evidence is pointless here in a state that big. You're condemning educational experiences at schools you know nothing about. Neither do I.

Well, it's biased by definition, but I'd be interested in reading your personal anecdotes anyway. I don't see why they would be any more representative of "academia" than my experiences at South Carolina and Atlanta, GA universities, but I'd like to read them anyway.

The closest statistical proof I could see to this issue would be that teachers' unions are typically Deomcratic supporters as the Democrats appease their demands more than Republicans do. I think that's a far cry from either outright or subtle indoctrination into liberalism.

Hell, big business are mostly conservative/Republican with where they put their money, but that doesn't affect the workers and white-collar management they employ. People's political tastes appear to be more aligned with geography than anything else - as the electoral Presidential voting bears out.

I would cite plenty of Larry Elder but you seemed fundamentally opposed to him for some reason. If I am off the mark on that assessment of you you can go read his book. Or go here for links to other items

<a href="http://www.larryelder.com" target="_blank">www.larryelder.com</a> Plenty of examples.

You don't live here Micah so unfortunately you can't say my opinion isn't valid or even truthful because you can compare talks from many different high schools (I was involved quite heavily with teachers, staff, and students) and they would say academia is very much liberally biased in California. I've been there enough to know all about it. Take my word or don't but if I can't stand by this in which I have had plenty of personal involvement in then we will never come to terms.

And again this is for California.

If polling data from the last election doesn't show this is another country then the rest of the US nothing does.

[quote]Majin Kronos:
But even the radical left is not always setting parking lots on fire. The truth is that criminals set parking lots on fire, regardless of the reasons, they are the same people that blow up abortion clinics. Radical lefties describe a large percentage of people, many of which would never even think to commit a destructive or violent act.