CHUD.com Community › Forums › POLITICS & RELIGION › Political Discourse › Get Your Face Out of My Cigarette!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Get Your Face Out of My Cigarette!

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
An Open Letter from the Intransigent Smoker to the Anti-Cigarette Crusaders

"Do you smell that? Someone must be smoking in here. IS SOMEONE SMOKING IN HERE?”

Yeah, someone IS smoking in here. It's ME. I'm smoking tenaciously and unapologetically. And the next fool who asks that question within earshot of me, I'm gonna spill his yogurt into his sneakers and scatter his lecithin granules.

I know I’m expected to be contrite about my cigarette habit and that the unrepentant attitude I’m displaying is a source of consternation to you. You wonder how I justify it. Could I somehow remain ignorant of the jeopardy my cigarette puts you in?

Well, I could remind you that studies from which you draw your ammunition--studies by the National Cancer Institute and the World Health Organization--have been shown to be less than reliable. I could point out that one of these studies was, in fact, deemed fraudulent by a federal court, and that the only certain instance of a smoker killing a nonsmoker was the stabbing of a California waiter who demanded that a restaurant customer extinguish his cigarette. I could get into this. But the possibility that the danger I represent to you has been exaggerated, or that it may even be bogus, has nothing to do with my position. Even if I were thoroughly persuaded that side-stream smoke is a genuine threat to you, your face in my cigarette would still provoke my ire.

So where am I coming from? Why am I holding on? Am I helplessly nicotine-dependent? The prisoner of a compulsive oral fixation? One of those combination suicidal/homicidal maniacs who wants to take you out along with himself? Worse, am I some kind of First Amendment freak?

No. It's none of the above. What it is, friends, is something we have in common, something we share. Like you I'm dealing with an outsized fear of dying.

Just like you (whether you conceptualize it in this manner or not). I live too intimately with the knowledge that I was born under a death sentence that can't be pardoned and that might be invoked at any time and in any of myriad ways. And just as it does with you, my hyperawareness of my ultimate dissolution--of the hideous fate that nature has in store for me--forces me to live not only with too much consciousness of my vulnerability but also with a crippling burden of guilt.

I must have done some serious shit to be in so much trouble.

So, like you, and in order to fully partake of the world, I need to feel less vulnerable, less guilty and less afraid. Like you I need to believe that I have some control over my destiny and that I'm doing what I can to perpetuate myself for as long as possible. Where we part company is in how we're pursuing our internal equilibrium, in what we've discovered can work for us in this regard.

What you’ve been handed with the certification of tobacco as the “number one cause of preventable death” is a winnable battle to wage with mortality--a project which, by every measure, is a terrific way to address and alleviate dread and diminish guilt. Indeed, it can be an intoxicating thing. You can float around believing that you're securing an extension of your life by ridding the air of a lethal pollutant. At the same time, you can feel that by protecting other lives—by the absolute righteousness of this work--you’re acquitting yourself of any and all transgressions in past lives or in this one. If you become sufficiently obsessive about it you can even get to feel sometimes that EVERYTHING that's wrong has been reduced to a single locus and that you’re engaging--and wounding--evil itself. Not only can you move with less trepidation in the world, but you’re positioning yourself for an ultimate promotion to heaven, an infinite perpetuation of yourself.

That's a very good deal.

But if the "bad news" about cigarettes has been a boon for you it's also presented me with an opportunity to address my problem with mortality. I'm referring, specifically, to the denouement of cancer that cigarettes propose. Cancer, at once the most insidious and RETRIBUTIVE of diseases and a disease which ordinarily takes decades to develop.

My emotional circumstances inclining me to assume the worst as a given, it was automatic for me to interpret the authoritative conclusion that I risked the most hideous of consequences when I smoked as a certainty. I immediately took it for granted that I would die of cancer if I smoked. If, for you, a similar reaction was reason to demonize cigarettes, for me the opposite was true. My attraction to cigarettes, already strong but not yet compulsive, took the leap into addiction. I recognized that there was an inherent blessing in the certainty of a cigarette-induced death, and that it was a considerable one.

When, and not so long ago, smoking was perceived as a minor vice or a vaguely unhealthy practice, the best you could do with a cigarette was to use it as a surrogate tit to suck on in moments of tension or as an aid in the fabrication of a social posture designed to mask insecurity and self-doubt. Cigarettes were a wonderful anodyne and piece of business, but those functions constituted the limits of their utility. Now, however, I could derive that much and more from cigarettes.

By smoking cigarettes, by implicitly taking on the most terrible of deaths, I could affect an arrangement with nature that served to ease my anxieties at their very root. By embracing the ultimate punishment, I could, that is, own a sense of being insulated against all other causes of death. And armored in this way by my cigarette habit I could feel not only less susceptible to croaking by accident, violence or germs, but significantly free of the constraints guilt imposed on my ability to experience pleasure.

Moreover, with my sense of immunity to such eventualities, I could feel something like confident of thirty to forty years of survival on the planet--many more years, certainly, than I could otherwise feel confident of. Finally, I could feel that cigarettes might ultimately assure my salvation itself, that I could arrive at the moment of judgment having fully atoned for my felonies as well as my misdemeanors and with at least a balanced rap sheet.

You expect me to give this up?

I know what you're going to say. You're going to say that what I've come up with is insane, stupid, grotesque and awful and, in this case, you'll be right. But inasmuch as your cause is fueled by what, just perhaps, is less than solid fact, and since you’ve placed yourself on the side of angels who after all may not exist, I would think you’d appreciate that certain existential horrors are impervious to rational responses. Insanity and stupidity, I'd think you would agree, are often best understood, not as handicaps or pathological conditions, but as marvels of human resourcefulness.

So are we straight with this now? What we have here is a collision of self-perpetuation projects and given the urgency of our needs and the diametric opposition of our methods, a situation without an equitable resolution. I mean, I don't want to hurt anybody but, much as I'd prefer it otherwise, I can't demonstrate any more consideration for your need to stay afloat in a creation, than you can for mine.

Of course in this respect we're alike still again. We both mimic nature herself.
post #2 of 25
Wicked cut and paste.
post #3 of 25
Yeah, and tiresome after the first paragraph. Then I made a little wager with myself: How much would I bet that this is one of perhaps only five posts at maximum?

Needless to say I'd have won big.
post #4 of 25
An excellent response to the fascist anti smokers brigade! One that I most heartily agree with.
post #5 of 25
Well according to the barrage of recent news flashes...we're all dead in a few weeks anyway.

*fires one up*
post #6 of 25
Quote:
Avalon:
Well according to the barrage of recent news flashes...we're all dead in a few weeks anyway.

*fires one up*
Avalon, you rock.

*lights one up, too*
post #7 of 25
This gets my vote for MOST DEPRESSING THREAD OF THE DAY!!!
post #8 of 25
Quote:
Kiteless:
This gets my vote for MOST DEPRESSING THREAD OF THE DAY!!!
Aww...Chris, don't be sad.

Me and my sister here (throws a wink to kitty)choose our weed..er..poisons carefully. At least I gave up pot! Give me some credit. One vice at a time, my friend. One at a time.
post #9 of 25
There is barely a thread -short of learning of the death of a Chewer- that could depress me.

A pro-smoker is on a roll pasting this rant at every MB they can find.

Have a drink and a smile.
post #10 of 25
Is this shit from The Onion?
post #11 of 25
You know, even if smoking caused penile elongation and smelled like a field of daisies after a spring shower, it would still be RUDE to puff away and blow smoke in other folks' faces.

I like the old Steve Martin routine:

"Mind if I smoke?"

"No, mind if I fart?"
post #12 of 25
Thread Starter 
Folks:

My post is not intended to condone or promote cigarette smoking, but to suggest where people who continue to smoke might be coming from. I wanted to say something about the causes of addiction--and in the voice of the beleagured smoker.

Yes, I've posted this statement in a number of places because it's my conceit that my point is a good one and worthy of the widest possible circulation.
post #13 of 25
Of all the rights to fight for, the right to poison yourself and others is probably the strangest.
post #14 of 25
Indeed. Studies, mortality, and cancer aside, it's simply rude and uncouth to blow or otherwise allow smoke you're generating to trouble other people.

You wanna smoke? Fine. Keep it to yourself.
post #15 of 25
Okay. I'll bite. I, too, refrain from smoking when around non-smokers. It is real easy for me to go hours at a stretch without one. One of the things that I find most funny is that I worked at this one office for two years and my co-workers didn't even KNOW I smoked, which tells me one thing. I'm what you might call a self-aware smoker in that I don't just sit with a cig in my hand. I can't stand when smokers barely exhale and they sit in a cloud with it hanging all over their clothes and hair. I try to make it a point to always hold the cig away from me and when I exhale as to make sure it is blown away from me. I also don't allow smoking in my home, albeit for my own office down in the basement (during the winter) with two open windows to my left.

Jesus, how anal retentive is that? Think I should quit? LOL

I've been a pack a day smoker since my senior year in high school. I've stopped twice. The first time was when I became pregnant and stayed away until I was done nursing. The second time was because I really wanted to try for good. I failed. I think I lasted 6 months. When they say it's harder to quit than heroin, I believe 'em. Maybe it IS just will power and I have to overcome by my own choosing. Hard to say.

But one thing I refuse to buy into is the hype that second hand smoke causes cancer. Pull out all the reports you want. I've yet to see a documented case where it's been proven.

My mother-in-law died a month before our wedding of cancer. She was a 2-3 pack a day smoker for 40 years. The doctor told us that her lungs were clear when she died. I'm not saying that lung cancer is not brought about cigarettes, just that it is not always the culprit, even if you are a smoker.
post #16 of 25
I've developed allergies I never had due to nasal sensitivity brought on by smoking. I'm trying to quit, I have cut down, and I'm doing my part. The fact that you can buy them on any street corner doesn't help. It's wicked hard to quit these bastards. I wouldn't mind at all if they became illegal. People might be able to quit a lot easier if they were.

I have a good friend who is a recovered/recovering (take your pick) cocaine addict. Let's call him Rick Tuskmonster. (Not the same guy as my pal who fell off the wagon two weeks ago Thursday.) Rick's been clean a long time. However, the early days were pretty freakin' hard. Thank God he didn't have to be presented with the option to buy some everytime he went into a store. That would have been hell. "I'll take five bucks in gas, some beef jerky, and what the hell, an 8-ball."

Nobody gets anything out of cigarettes. They should just make them illegal. As for smoker's rights, blow it out your ass. I'm going to go take a smoke break.
post #17 of 25
Quote:
Robert Levin:
Folks:

My post is not intended to condone or promote cigarette smoking, but to suggest where people who continue to smoke might be coming from. I wanted to say something about the causes of addiction--and in the voice of the beleagured smoker.

Yes, I've posted this statement in a number of places because it's my conceit that my point is a good one and worthy of the widest possible circulation.
So you just bounce from one messageboard to another with this?
post #18 of 25
Thread Starter 
Why not? I'm not dumping and running. If someone wants to debate what my post is actually about, I'm right here.
post #19 of 25
I have self-inflicted respiratory issues. I'm an idiot, like every other person who smokes.

Where's the debate? Smoking is stupid and legal.
post #20 of 25
Okay, I'm not going to make an argument that smoking is good for you. It's stupid. It's unhealthy. Take your pick. There are enough arguments out there to condemn it.

But guess what? So are a lot of other things!!
You're gonna die regardless of how you live out your lives.

I will always be considerate when there's somebody about with respiratory problems. I don't smoke in people's homes when they object to it.

But I do take offense to people condemning my smoking while they're off every day in their cars to drive a couple of blocks to do their grocery shopping; take their kids to schools and you name it. Then go out and buy the latest in fashion; the newest stereo; sit behind their computers writing on messageboards all day.

It's all fine and dandy we live in a consumer society where we are encouraged to spend as much on stuff we don't really need all the while increasing production output which in turn fucks up the atmosphere even further, increasing the chances for someone to acquire a respiratory related disease. And then they have the gall to point a finger at me for smoking a cigarette. That I'm to blame somehow.

All right, cool! But get your asses out of those damned cars 'cause they annoy the crap out of me and their output smells. Stop all that insane spending money on stuff you don't really need.

But then you can't, can you? You're addicted, no? You gotta have that shit your neighbour has otherwise you no longer fit in.

Hey, no problem! Same here. Yeah, I really don't need to smoke. But it's there and it gives me some peace of mind in a fucked up world filled with lunatics who keep trying to tell other people how to live. Sure, I'll die before you most likely but I can live with that....

So you do your shit and I'll do mine. And everything will be dandy. And when you see me light one up in a bar or a restaurant, you will see a nice sign where I'm sitting that says "Smoking Allowed" and you'll be sitting way over there with a sign "No Smoking". And everybody's happy. But wait. What's that.....you have petitioned, begged and moaned so much that there is not even a designated area where I'm allowed to smoke anymore after a nice dinner and drinking a beer?

You fucking bastard!!!!

(I apologise for my ranting though I stand behind it completely)

(edited for spelling)

post #21 of 25
Quote:
dedalus75:
And when you see me light one up in a bar or a restaurant, you will see a nice sign where I'm sitting that says "Smoking Allowed" and you'll be sitting way over there with a sign "No Smoking". And everybody's happy. But wait. What's that.....you have petitioned, begged and moaned so much that there is not even a designated area where I'm allowed to smoke anymore after a nice dinner and drinking a beer?
Well, if the smoke you breathed out obeyed the signs and just floated around your own head without drifting away, we wouldn't have a problem...
post #22 of 25
I love not having to smell cigarettes in restaurants. I love not being able to smoke in restaurants too, because the less I smoke the better. Putting yourself in circumstances where you can't smoke is one of the best ways not to smoke. If one enjoys a smoke after dinner, one is always free to do so outside. I do. The smell doesn't stick to one's clothes as much when you smoke outside either.

Not being able to smoke in places like train platforms (an issue here) is another matter. It's a pointless rule. I can't smoke on this side of a yellow line? Fine. I'll step over it. Feel better? You're still downwind from me, but if it makes you feel better I'll step over it.
post #23 of 25
And Dedalus means it, people... I've seen him get agitated during a screening of TTT... he definitely needs a break in a flick for some smokes... hehehe.

post #24 of 25
Quote:
Refrozen Seabass:
If one enjoys a smoke after dinner, one is always free to do so outside. I do. The smell doesn't stick to one's clothes as much when you smoke outside either.
Go outside? And be exposed to all the noxious fumes from cars which, unfortunately, will not circle about the heads of the offending parties?Or be exposed to other pollutants generated by big industry? Or get skin cancer because the ozone layer is fucked?

I respectfully decline.
post #25 of 25
Until running automobiles appear inside restaurants, cars are not relevant to any smoking-related discussion.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Political Discourse
CHUD.com Community › Forums › POLITICS & RELIGION › Political Discourse › Get Your Face Out of My Cigarette!