Nice shooting, Tex

And two of those four Americans were from Illinois. What's your point, exactly?

Seriously, Devin, do you ever come up for air?

I am a bit curious about this. Aren't Patriot missiles used exclusively to shoot down other missiles? They aren't anti-aircrafts missiles, as far as my limited knowledge of them goes. Why were they shooting at a jet?

No the Patriot missiles are also used for anti aircraft.

Devin,
Did you enjoy your snide comments about the men who died to let you post your wit on a fucking message board.

TWELVE actual men died because of this, and you use it to further a fucking point in an internet argument. No respect for the administration is fine. No respect for the uniform is sad.

Chuck

Wonder how much outcry this will get, as opposed to the approaching 100 estimated civilian Iraqi deaths.

DOHA, Qatar (CNN) -- A British military spokesman has confirmed that a Tornado GR4 aircraft returning from an operational mission was shot down by a Patriot missile near the Kuwait border.

The crew are listed are as missing, and an investigation is under way, the spokesman said Sunday.

The loss of the aircraft comes after two deadly accidents involving helicopters belonging to U.S. and British forces.

Six British crew members and one American were killed Saturday in a midair collision between two British Navy Sea King helicopters over the Persian Gulf, according to the UK Central Command in Qatar and the Pentagon.

On Friday, a U.S. Marine CH-46 helicopter crashed in Kuwait, killing all 12 people aboard.

The eight British and four American dead were the first coalition casualties of the war against Iraq.[/QUOTE]

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Quoted by Avalon:

And two of those four Americans were from Illinois. What's your point, exactly?

Seriously, Devin, do you ever come up for air?

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Quoted by Devin:

My point is that we shot down a British plane. Here on the East Coast we call it a "news story."

My commentary is that this will get more media attention than the deaths of innocents.

This doesn't seem so complicated.
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Okay. The reason why I asked you what your point was exactly, is because you mentioned the downing of the CH-46 helicopter in the same thread that you were trying to draw attention to an incident involving friendly fire.

Were you aware at the time of your initial post that the downed CH-46 helicopter was caused by a malfunction in the aircraft? And if so, were you just trying to add to your tally of lives lost from the get-go to enhance your argument? That is why I asked you to clarify.

And I apologize for the come up for air comment. It was not meant as a personal attack, as it appeared.

Uh, okay. Sorry. I read it wrong. I thought you had mixed in some of your own comments (besides the first line) within that post.

I just realized that in quoting you in my last post, that I had also included the quote twice. D'oh! I'll go back to my corner now.

Is it possible that the Iraqis have Patriot missles? (stupid question, but I was just thinking black market)

I don't really get a chance to watch the news very often, nor do I want to.

What does Britain think about this?

It seems like the coalition forces are inflicting more casualties to themselves than the Iraqis are.

Devin,
At least you are honest. I can put the remainder of your posts in context rather easily now.

"I have no respect for the uniform, that's true. I don't know why I should. I have empathy for the people, but I think joining the military is a bad idea."

Of course you don't know why you should. You haven't had to earn any of the rights you so freely use. You can fathom actually having to come down from the "moral high ground" to fight for what you believe in. People have already done that for you.

If you don't think you should respect the men and women who protect you, nothing I can say will ever change your mind.

But please, don't pity them. That's even ruder than ignoring them. They know what they are doing. They believe in certain principles. Having known so many of them myself, your pathetic "empathy", likely done to feed a sense of self-righteousness, is the final joke.

And I'll sign every post I make. Courtesy. But thanks for your input and guidance.

Chuck

You don't know anything, and I mean anything, about any of those "poor bastards".

Don't presume to.

Take care,
Chuck