Breaking news on CNN right now, an attack apparently near a crowded bus. Details still not clear... 6 people dead, plus the bomber herself.
What a fucking planet...
What a fucking planet...
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| Poxy Von Sinister: Fox News was calling it a "homicide bombing." Paging Mr. Orwell.... |
| kronos: About what? Makes me think that the President is dancing with terrorists. Makes me think Powell has no business going there. Makes me think that Isreal is right for retaliating. Makes me think that the first Senator who stands up and says they support Isreal will be our next President. Makes me think the only one who can bring peace truly might be the Antichrist. |
| Poxy Von Sinister: Fox News was calling it a "homicide bombing." Paging Mr. Orwell.... |
| jabbadonut: Well, it makes me think that what we have here is a failure to communicate. I mean, why can't the Israelis and Palestinians just get along? What is SO FUCKING IMPORTANT that one must kill themselves and others to acheive? If I was "God of the World" I would simply send in a million troops into the area, forceably remove every possible weapon (including forks) from everyone there, and then line them up across from each other and make them introduce themselves. "Hi, my name is Saul" . . ."Hi, my name is Fatima" . . . "Hi, my name is Jacob" . . . "Hi, my name is Abdullah" . . . After awhile, once all of these so-called enemies got to know each other on a personal level, I suspect the biggest problem in the Middle East would be the noise coming from the party at the end of the block . . . |
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| Poxy Von Sinister: It's not necessarily understanding the motive -- it's removing the concept that there is a human being involved. "Homicide bombing" is classic Vietnam-era double-speak, and if Bush honestly thinks not referring to them as "suicide bombers" is going to make a damn bit of difference, he's more deluded than I thought. |
| Something is perceived as being so wrong it's worth hundreds of people taking their own lives to protest it. |
| kronos And sematics is half the problem when it comes to political issues here in the United States. What's this enterpretation of the Constitution all about if not sematics? |

| Words have meaning. To change their meaning is to divert the issue. And you have to assign proper definitions to actions otherwise you downplay their significance. |
| jabbadonut: I think suicide bomber is clearly definitive. I don't think we need the term "homocide bomber" as that doesn't clearly define that the perpertrator killed themselves. A homocide bomber is someone who blows up people WITHOUT killing themselves. At least when a suicide bomber goes off, he (or she) will never be able to do it again . . . |
| kronos: How about MASS-MURDERING SELF-DESTRUCTIVE TERRORIST. Oh, but that would be too accurate, wouldn't it? Can't be too on the money otherwise you might not be taking sides. |

| Poxy Von Sinister: But we're not simply going to reason that out of them overnight. They're not going to hear us calling them "homicide bombers" and think, "Wait, you mean they've been killing other people too?" I think we need to understand where this fanaticism comes from in order to erradicate it without simpling erradicating the fanatics. |
| call7001: They simply want to kill us. So why should we waste the energy understanding them and the things they do? |