Bush aides discuss 'punishment' for France

Oh god. I may have to consider moving out of the country after this debacle.

So we're mad and aren't going to talk to them anymore. silly

Wow. It keeps getting dumber, don't it?

P.S. Blunt, you know we still loves ya.

Bush needs a new cabinet position created - Secretary of Get Fucking Real.

We just can't talk to you for a while. It would be un-American.

I am really dumbfounded here.
It just seriously keeps getting scarier and scarier. I feel like I'm in some bizarro world.

I mean HUH?

Disagree with us and you get a spanking for being a bad boy.

Jeez. How immature can you get?

This makes me sad. Unbelivable fucking stupid.

I wonder if Russia and China will be "sidelined" as well? Didn't see them in the "Coalition of the Willing". Or would that get in the way of the whole Anti-French bandwagon?

This reminds me, bizarrely, of that scene in Army of Darkness when Ash - full of obnoxious bravado, having realised he's the only guy around with a shotgun - scans the crowd for someone else to challenge him. Spotting the puniest guy he can, and purposefully ignoring anyone who might actually fight back, he waves the gun in his face and screams "Do you want some?"

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Screw the French...................

I'm beginning to resent having welcomed Grifter to the CHUD boards...

Why? You don't like having people around that post easy, braindead jokes that even Leno would veto?

Oh, come on!! LOL

Try to interject a wee bit of humor, and look what happens....................

These "Senior Bush aides" who refuse to be indentified need to get backslapped. This is unbelieveably childish.

Perhaps Bush needs to step in and have them focus on the business of this country instead of trying to figure out ways to "keep little Johny out of the sandbox".

Despite this disgreement, France is still an ally. That won't change.

Wait, maybe Leno wouldn't veto those jokes.

Sidelining the French in NATO, come on. The French sidelined themselves in that alliance back in 56, when De Gaulle took them out of the integrated military council.
As far as what is being floated, it's pretty ridiculous, considering the French are actually proposing to drop UN sanctions as opposed to the Russian position of holding off. We need to move back toward France now that they are making moves towards us. That doesn't necessarily mean giving TotalFinaElf any contracts in Iraq, but let's give up on these boycotts and jingoism and meet for a little kissy-face.

How does "punishing" France, or any other country for that matter, simply for not obeying our demands become in our interests? What good does that do America?

Why, it shows that America take no shit of fools, of course. What else could that be?

Seriously, let them make their threats. We'll see whose action history judges right. I'm fairly confident it won't be those of Bush's administration.

Oh, and because of that other country's lack of cooperation, we all must eat ham for Thanksgiving. Bush says.

Actually, America takes plenty of shit from plenty of fools. They're just very good at choosing which ones to ignore and which ones to make a big deal about.

I don't see Chirac walking out of this unscathed. Who knows what will come out of the millions of documents the coalition forces have recovered? My guess is that Chirac's legacy, due to his Iraqi connections, will be less than sterling.

Oh, believe me, Chirac's legacy is already well tarnished by all the affairs that have been unearthed here, dating back to the time he was mayor of Paris. It's not exactly that I was talking about.

Let me put it this way. I think history will be kinder to Bush than it will be to Chirac.

I personally wish they both end up judged as the cons they are.

Maybe in the US. Not in other parts of the world.

History is usually written by those that "win". There is a LONG way to go in this whole US / France thing, I fear.

We'll see in years how this is written about.

Which will also cease to allow them to aid the US in Europe-centric matters.

Another day, another diplomatic bridge burned, courtesy of this administration.

We're the bad guy because we can't be the bigger nation and let it go.

You have got to be kidding. I think a very small but very vocal minority would be much more accurate.

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That's simply not true. Despite the brou-haha over the Dixie Chicks and their vocal detractors, they remain the top-selling country group with the top-selling country album AND DVD as of this week's Billboard charts, not to mention their near soldout tour coming up.

These dittoheads and the "Freedom Toast/Freedom Fries" brigade are a very vocal MINORITY.

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Again, untrue. They've joined in the effort to lift UN sanctions, and they've said it's time to move on. How is that against us...NOW?

The fight's over. To be petty enough to want to get the last slap in - even after they're being friendly to us - is nothing but juvenile.

I thought Ash got in that guy's face because he was the one who was whipping him while they treked back to the castle.

[quote]Papa Trouter:
Simple answer is one guy yelling "Fuck the French" is better TV than a hundred people saying that the anti-French crap is silly.

Trout also lives in Iowa. Having also lived there for five years, may I say on his behalf, there probably are a lot of people there saying 'fuck the french'. It's a different world.

I can't believe this diplomatic hissy fit. Should other nations act this way towards the U.S. everytime it used its veto to prevent action in the middle east?

Don't like France's decision? Too bad. They have a UN veto, same as you, and they used it. So sorry it didn't go your way. Cry me a river.

That's no excuse. I mean, I live in Alberta but I turned out okay.

No shit, I'm a conservo from Kansas, lived one house down from Brownback when I was in high school and I still think Trout is wrong.

Really guys, I have a girlfriend, she uhh, lives in Canada though, yeah Canada...

I talk to at least ten people in every Canadian province, but it's for a meteorological study I'm conducting.

Where does Seabass claim to speak for all Canadians? Or is the internet facilitating some bizarre connection between fantasy world and reality, yet again.

A French joke coming from you is like a joke about Jewish people coming from Ernst Zundel. I think that commentary you posted below that picture summarizes your attitude.

I think Trouter missed the point.

Otis got it bang on, though.

Nine people. Wow. I've lived all but two years in Alberta. Nearly everyone I've EVER talked to is an Albertan. I'm not amazed. Sometimes I think people in this province would vote for a fencepost if it wore an Oilers jersey and blamed Ontario.

Albertans. And they sure don't reflect the political stance of all Albertans, you're right about that. That's what "I turned out okay" means.

What's wrong with being twisted as a child? I liked gymnastics!

I don't think you're twisted, I just think you're WRONG. As for growing up...well, you can have my Buttercup Powerpuff shower scrubbie when you pry it from my cold dead hands and that's that.

But I'll go down insisting that the US is just being puerile when it talks about giving France (and Canada to a lesser degree, I might add) the cold shoulder.

A valid opinion.

I think the the commentary I posted below the picture went very well, WITH THE PICTURE.

And since the picture wasn't funny to begin with...

Do you guys think it physically hurts Grifter to be so stupid? Like his head just pounds all the time?

Judging by grifter's new-found 'zany' image, I'd say we've got jabbadonut mark II on our hands.

He's jovially trolling for this sort of abuse, so I'm a little torn as to whether it should continue or not.

He can decide, I suppose.

Here's the thing I don't get. My sisters live in France, I've met plenty of French people. None of them live up to the awful stereotypes.

Why are you free to generalize about the French, alone among nationalities? Why? I don't understand. I mean, it's not like anyone is actually stepping forward to defend the French, they're just pointing out how juvenile the US is being. A while back, "Mallard Filmore" (God, I hate that strip, yet read it constantly) said, "Warning: all this week we'll be making very un-politically correct fun of the French..." And I was left to ask, when has it EVER been politically incorrect to slander the French? I mean, I've never seen even the most left-wing University lobbyist ever say boo about French jokes. It's like one of the few things Americans are united on is their hatred of the French. But WHY? What's so awful about them?!? They seem like any other people to me...

Would that be the same French who helped ensure you wouldn't remain a British colony?

Mikah, on this thread, you are right. I knew I would take flak for that, and I have no problem with that. Always be willing to accept the consequences of your actions, and always think of what those may be.

I've pointed out on more than one occasion that you put up some very well thought out, and logical arguments. I like reading what you have to say.

I often do not agree with you, but that is what makes it interesting.

I simply ran across the pic, and personally found it funny.

I do not agree with Devin's stand on most everything, to him, that makes me stupid. Interesting.

Adam, judging by most of his posts, is perhaps even a bitterer person than I am. Damn.....

Anyway, sure, I know full well I bring this on myself. As others know full well that some of the stuff they post will have repercussions.

I'm a "right wing, conservo, gun nut", to use popular vernacular. First to admit it. In some Chewer's eye's that ranks me right up there with Dahmer. Oh well.

One thing is certain. I am well aware of the fact that I am far on the other side of the spectrum of many on here. I simply also feel that that side of the argument needs to be brought to light as well. I'll be the first to admit, I do not often post things in a palatable way. So what...............

Neither do many others on here.

Choosing the French as the New enemy wouldn't be easy.

This is not a small country,they have allies and political power.They are not villains(view by the rest of the world).

That is why the Bush administration will go to the French.They will show Americans that they are firm with the French.but underneathe(?) they will be good pals.

Russia won't have their oil contract with Iraq.The US(oups!) the Iraquies said that they are terminated. Not a word on the French oil"s contracts.