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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
Interesting study. Sorry I don't have a link; this was emailed to me.

Religious 12th graders hold more positive
attitudes about life, new UNC study shows

By DAVID WILLIAMSON
UNC News Services

(Embargoed) CHAPEL HILL -- High school seniors who consider themselves
religious have significantly higher self-esteem and hold more positive
attitudes about life than do their less religious peers, a new University of
North Carolina at Chapel Hill study shows.
The research, part of the larger UNC-based National Study of Youth
and Religion, revealed a statistical association between religion and higher
self-esteem among 12th-graders who went to religious services at least once
a week or who professed deeply held spiritual views, said study director Dr.
Christian Smith.
"We found that of the 13 variables we examined about attitudes, only one was
not significantly related to some dimension of religion in a positive way
after controlling for the effects of age, race, sex, family structure,
region of the country and other characteristics," said Smith, professor of
sociology at UNC. "This was contrary to the belief held by some people that
religion is associated with psychological neurosis or dysfunction. These
findings seem to suggest the opposite -- that religion is associated with a
constructive outlook."
Conducted with doctoral student Robert Faris, the UNC study relied
on data gathered through
Monitoring the Future, a nationally representative University of Michigan
survey of 2,478 high school seniors, he said. The new analysis, being
released in a report today (Dec. 4), is among the most comprehensive looks
yet on the link between religion and positive attitudes among teens.
"The factors most commonly related to the outcomes we saw were
religious service attendance and the stated importance of religion, although
religious affiliation and youth group participation also
were important in many cases," said Smith, associate chair of sociology.
Researchers found that the 31 percent of all 12th-graders who
attended services weekly and the
additional 30 percent who said religion was very important to them were
significantly more likely than
non-religious students to

*enjoy life as much as anyone
*think their lives were useful
*feel hopeful about their futures
*be satisfied with their lives and
*enjoy being in school

Smith said he and Faris could not say for certain what caused the link
between religion and positive attitudes because their study was not designed
to answer that question.
"We always like to say that correlation is not causality," he said. "Just
because things are statistically associated doesn't mean one necessarily
causes the other. It could be that people who are more positive about life
are more interested in going to church. It might be that the more you go to
church, the more you develop positive attitudes about life."
Other possibilities, Smith said, are that at least for some adolescents,
religious involvement gives them greater sense of their place in the world
and their destiny in life and that there may be a God who cares about them.
Another possibility is that social involvement in religious institutions
such as youth groups provides teens with more exposure to caring adults and
resources that can help them cope with difficulties or uncertainties.
Despite the good news about religious participation, between 10 percent and
20 percent of such adolescents still struggle with feelings of hopelessness
and meaninglessness, and so religion is not a cure-all for every young
person, he said.
An earlier report from the study showed that religious youth were less
likely to smoke, drink and use drugs and more likely to start later and use
less if they started at all, he said. They went to bars less often, received
fewer traffic tickets, wore seat belts more, took fewer risks and fought
less frequently. Shoplifting, other thefts, trespassing and arson also were
more rare.
"Religious 12th-graders argued with parents less, skipped school less,
exercised more, participated more in student government and faced fewer
detentions, suspensions and expulsions," Smith said.
"It could also be that kids who are initially religious and start
getting into trouble drop out of religion because it feels uncomfortable for
them," he said. "Then when someone takes a survey, those teens show up as
being not very religious, and so there is an apparent association."
Lilly Endowment Inc. is funding the four-year UNC project, which
began in 2001. Among goals are to identify effective practices in the
religious, moral and social formation in young people's lives and to foster
informed national discussions about the influence of religion on
adolescents.

- 30 -

Note: To reach Smith or for copies of the report, call Roxann Miller,
director of communications for the National Study of Youth and Religion, at
(919) 966-1559. More information is available at <a href="http://www.youthandreligion.org." target="_blank">www.youthandreligion.org.</a>

News Services Contact: David Williamson, (919) 962-8596

post #2 of 26
That's because religious people are delusional.

(please notice the winky)
post #3 of 26
Well duh. They still beleive God loves them. Kids that know there is no omnipotant being watching out for their safety, obviously are less likely to be happy about it. There is a big difference between thinking you will be taken care of & knowing you are on your own.
post #4 of 26
Which begs the oft-asked question...

Do humans need religion in their lives to feel happy and purposeful?

Obviously, for some the answer is no, but for the majority of homo sapiens the answer is yes.

What does that mean for humanity in general?
post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 
I'm not a religious person, but I feel happy and purposeful. But I have never considered myself normal.

I think religion is a great way to placate people and keep them from revolting. Don't worry about the toil you have in this life, because in the next life you will be rewarded for it. People who buy in are suddenly ok with their station in life, no matter what it is.

But I did find it interesting that the kids in this study had higher self esteem. I wouldn't have expected that.
post #6 of 26
Quote:
Sammy Jankis:
I think religion is a great way to placate people and keep them from revolting. Don't worry about the toil you have in this life, because in the next life you will be rewarded for it. People who buy in are suddenly ok with their station in life, no matter what it is.

But I did find it interesting that the kids in this study had higher self esteem. I wouldn't have expected that.
Funny thing is I don't feel placated and my self esteem gets better every day.
post #7 of 26
Quote:
Sammy Jankis:
I'm not a religious person, but I feel happy and purposeful. But I have never considered myself normal.

I think religion is a great way to placate people and keep them from revolting. Don't worry about the toil you have in this life, because in the next life you will be rewarded for it. People who buy in are suddenly ok with their station in life, no matter what it is.

But I did find it interesting that the kids in this study had higher self esteem. I wouldn't have expected that.
Higher self-esteem can result from a positive outlook overall. You're certainly going to have a more positive outlook if you believe there's a reason for existence and an afterlife.

However, believing in something that makes you feel good doesn't necessarily make it true or more valid.

I would never argue that atheism is the way to happiness... it's simply the position that works for me, belief-wise.
post #8 of 26
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capteucalyptus (Scott Roche):
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Sammy Jankis:
I think religion is a great way to placate people and keep them from revolting. Don't worry about the toil you have in this life, because in the next life you will be rewarded for it. People who buy in are suddenly ok with their station in life, no matter what it is.

But I did find it interesting that the kids in this study had higher self esteem. I wouldn't have expected that.
Funny thing is I don't feel placated and my self esteem gets better every day.
Of course you don't. If you could sense it, you wouldn't follow it.
post #9 of 26
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Guttenberg Fan Club:
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capteucalyptus (Scott Roche):
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Sammy Jankis:
I think religion is a great way to placate people and keep them from revolting. Don't worry about the toil you have in this life, because in the next life you will be rewarded for it. People who buy in are suddenly ok with their station in life, no matter what it is.

But I did find it interesting that the kids in this study had higher self esteem. I wouldn't have expected that.
Funny thing is I don't feel placated and my self esteem gets better every day.
Of course you don't. If you could sense it, you wouldn't follow it.
I sincerely hope that was sarcasm.
post #10 of 26
Which part is supposed to be sarcastic?

post #11 of 26
Quote:
Guttenberg Fan Club:
Which part is supposed to be sarcastic?
So all religious people are deluded?
post #12 of 26
Not nessisarily. I don't know what kind of God there is or isn't, but if you felt you were being placated or deluted, your attitudes towards religion would change. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, I was just pointing out that you can't argue against what Sammy Jankis was saying because 'You don't feel it'. That is all.
post #13 of 26
Quote:
Guttenberg Fan Club:
Not nessisarily. I don't know what kind of God there is or isn't, but if you felt you were being placated or deluted, your attitudes towards religion would change. I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, I was just pointing out that you can't argue against what Sammy Jankis was saying because 'You don't feel it'. That is all.
Some people actually do like being placated so I could make that argument. You can feel placated and know that you are being placated. My religious beliefs challenge me to think and question constantly. And who better to judge my self esteem than me?
post #14 of 26
I'm not saying you don't have self esteem. Quite the opposite. As I said earlier, it is a lot easier to feel good about yourself, & feel confident when you beleive God is supporting you. Of course young religious people are more confident than those who are not. I can't imagine what it would have been like being a teenager (hard enough as it is) and not having the belief that God was with me. It certainly makes growing up easier.
post #15 of 26
I agree. That's not the point Sammy was making if I read him right.
post #16 of 26
Fair enough. Different interpretations of the written word. Not the first or last time.
post #17 of 26
I don't think people need religion to be happy. They need a KIND of religion. Example: people who coast through life not knowing what they want to do or what their purpose is are not too happy. Religious people have a purpose in life (to appease God) and their own personal buddy who looks out for them. Now, as myself as an example, I don't need that. I have a passion in my life: movies. I love watching movies, writing about movies, and making my own movies. I love it. That's my religion. Well, that and CHUD.

Now, I will say that I long for a good woman to share my existance with... and until then, I kind of havea hole in my heart... but will religion fill that for me? Nope. I need someone I can talk to... not some book and some guy in a black dress who sits in a temple all day, that's for sure.
post #18 of 26
Quote:
Cheese Biscuits:
Now, I will say that I long for a good woman to share my existance with... and until then, I kind of havea hole in my heart...
Ah, but Cheese... learning to love yourself is the greatest love of all.

post #19 of 26
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capteucalyptus (Scott Roche):
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Guttenberg Fan Club:
Which part is supposed to be sarcastic?
So all religious people are deluded?
Hey why am I always involved in these coversations?

post #20 of 26
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Meet the DaveB-tles:
Quote:
Cheese Biscuits:
Now, I will say that I long for a good woman to share my existance with... and until then, I kind of havea hole in my heart...
Ah, but Cheese... learning to love yourself is the greatest love of all.

Vewy twue.

I think it's easier to get through the rough spots feeling that there is some sort of higher power that is always watching over you. Maybe that's why the kids with high self esteem (in this study), feel more confident in the first place. They don't feel so alone. Hard to say. For some it IS God; some a guardian angel and for others, something else altogether.
post #21 of 26
Yes, CT, your influence is evident on the heart of every religious person. Every Republican too. Everyone who likes Jar Jar. Everyone who thinks liver tastes good. In fact, we'll change the word to CTDeluded. "Hey everyone, Look at me! I'm CTDelusional!"
wink
post #22 of 26
Quote:
Guttenberg Fan Club:
Well duh. They still beleive God loves them. Kids that know there is no omnipotant being watching out for their safety, obviously are less likely to be happy about it. There is a big difference between thinking you will be taken care of & knowing you are on your own.
Quote:
Burke:
Which begs the oft-asked question...

Do humans need religion in their lives to feel happy and purposeful?

Obviously, for some the answer is no, but for the majority of homo sapiens the answer is yes.

What does that mean for humanity in general?
1)Re-read the bit about correlation and causality.

2) Read the post of DaveB.
post #23 of 26
Ignorance is bliss.
post #24 of 26
Here's what I find disturbing about that article: the idea of these students being more "useful". The idea of a "productive member of society" is kind of creepy don't you think? In fact, the same effects on these kids could be caused by brainwashing.

We all need something to believe in, but is religion truly what a person believes in or are they convinced to that point? There's a reason why it's sometimes hard to draw a distinction between a religion and a cult. I think religion sometimes acts as a barrier to stop people from really looking inside themselves and asking what do I believe? Rather, it offers up easy lists of do's and donts.

Of course, I'm always hesitant to comment on religion because reading the bible is still on my to-do list.
post #25 of 26
Matt, the study makes no causal correlation between religion and success. It merely makes a valid sociological observation; students(in America)who are either A) spiritual, B) practicing a religion, or C) both A and B, have a healthier outlook on life. I suspect a similar correlations would be found between positive perspectives and sports, music, or relationships.

In fact, the findings of this study are almost tautological, as the healthy(therefore practicing) spiritualist is happy by definition—spiritual people wouldn't practice if spirituality was a negative. Furthermore, some of the findings ("loving life as much as any other," for instance) are vague.

In sum, this is statistical data, not a study of causal relationships. It could used in support of a study on causal realtionships, however. But such a study could be dismissed as the variables—religion, success, esteem—are reifications; abstracts made into concrete and measureable concepts(IQ tests are dubious in this manner).

post #26 of 26
I didn't say "success", I said "useful". The whole idea of a productive member of society creeps me out. The idea that religion can encourage this creeps me out even more.
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