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Source code for Half-Life 2 leaked

post #1 of 18
10/2/03 at 7:47pm
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<a href="http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/28619" target="_blank">link</a>

This sucks. I can't remember a time where the whole damn source code was leaked, let alone from a game of this magnitude.

Hope it doesn't fuck up the online play with hacks & cheats ala CounterStrike.
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post #2 of 18
10/2/03 at 7:51pm
Ouch. Sucks to be them.
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post #3 of 18
10/2/03 at 8:48pm
An even scarier thought only relates to Valve. Right now, all the of blood, sweat, and tears that they have put into creating that engine from scratch is now freely available to their competitors.

Not to mention that hackers now have full access to Steam's authentication/network protocols.

This is a hard and fast lesson that security through obscurity is no kind of protection at all.
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post #4 of 18
10/2/03 at 10:03pm
While it's not good by any stretch of the imagination, as far as practical applications go, any software company that releases anything even slightly Havok-y is taking its life in its hands legally. So i don't think wholesale theft of the engine is likely. Nevertheless, there are undoubtedly trade secrets in it that they don't want out. Bad week for Valve.
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post #5 of 18
10/3/03 at 3:26pm
Who knows? Maybe the HL2 source code leak is a cynical marketing ploy designed to stir up even more interest and buy a couple more months for bug fixing
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post #6 of 18
10/3/03 at 8:52pm
Ok for a tecnical basket case here, what does that mean...exactly? Competetitors can see what they programmed and hackers can mess with online stuff or does it go beyond just that?
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post #7 of 18
10/7/03 at 4:21pm
HALF-LIFE 2 is being delayed until April 2004.

<a href="http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/07/technology/vivendi_code.reut/index.htm" target="_blank">http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/07/technology/vivendi_code.reut/index.htm</a>
<a href="http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/07/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/" target="_blank">http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/07/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/</a>
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It's the latest in a series of frustrations for Vivendi Universal Games (V: Research, Estimates) and developer Valve. Earlier today, Christophe Ramboz, VU Games president of international operations, told Reuters the source code theft would result in a four month delay, pushing Half-Life 2 back to April 2004.

Valve, though, has not confirmed that delay. (Calls to the developer were not returned.) That's an important thing to note. Large independent game developers such as Valve and id Software typically decide when their games are released – not the publishers.
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post #8 of 18
10/7/03 at 4:35pm
Un-fucking-believable. So that's in stone now?
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post #9 of 18
10/7/03 at 4:39pm
more time to save up for the killer pc.

Normally I'd be miffed at this news but really who cares. So we have to wait, mheh, there are other things to do in the world between now and then.
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post #10 of 18
10/7/03 at 4:40pm
April is SIX months away, not four, and that's not counting the chunk of October we still have left. September 30th was supposed to be the original ship date, which is always overly optimistic. I wouldn't be surprised if Valve is using this source code theft to deflect criticism for a game they knew was going to be delayed for months anyway.
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post #11 of 18
10/7/03 at 4:48pm
That blows.

But if id cranks, we'll see Doom 3 before then.

At least I'll have Max Payne 2 soon, which should tide me over.

For about a weekend.

And then I'll have Call of Duty...
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post #12 of 18
10/7/03 at 5:08pm
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Dave Davis:
And then I'll have Call of Duty...
[Duff Man]OH YEA![/Duff Man]
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post #13 of 18
10/7/03 at 5:15pm
The delay is still in question. This officially now has the worst history of communication to press and fans of any game yet. Hype through confusion, I guess.
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post #14 of 18
10/7/03 at 5:15pm
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bob:
Ok for a tecnical basket case here, what does that mean...exactly? Competetitors can see what they programmed and hackers can mess with online stuff or does it go beyond just that?
The source code is the nuts and bolts, the nervous system, the very foundation of a program.

To expand on what you mentioned, competitors can basically copy any innovations or features for their own use. Not only can they see what was programmed, but also HOW it was done. I would also imagine that they'll be unable to license the game engine to other developers, since all that proprietary info has been publically released. The potential revenue loss of that alone is staggering.
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post #15 of 18
10/7/03 at 6:35pm
Blame the French.
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post #16 of 18
10/7/03 at 6:57pm
I'm calling bullshit on this one. When the first rumors of a delay surfaced they said the game was delayed until Spring 2004, and this was before any of this code leak thing came out. Valve saw their opportunity now to blame the delay on something other than themselves and they took it. Kudos to them. Anyway, I'm not a HL fan that much, so this news really doesn't affect me much.
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post #17 of 18
10/7/03 at 6:57pm
I'm not gonna say who, but I know someone who knows someone who is downloading this right now.

What a joke.
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post #18 of 18
10/7/03 at 11:20pm
Too bad for ATi and the people who were going to get a Radeon 9800 XT or 9600 XT. I wonder if there will be some kind of rebate style coupon where you can pick it up when it is finally released.
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