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post #1 of 21
8/9/03 at 1:04pm
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Okay. All this week I've been playing the hell out of a preview copy of NHL 2004 for the PS2. It's a fucking great game, and fixes some of the problems I had with NHL 2003. In any case, I was at home today, and having withdrawal symptoms. So I decide to throw my copy of 2003 in, which I have for the Gamecube. And I couldn't play it.

Bear in mind, it's been about four months since I'd even touched my GC, but I was so used to the controls of the PS2 version that I just couldn't get into it, and turned it off after five minutes in frustration.

Anyone else ever experience this?
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post #2 of 21
8/9/03 at 1:12pm
sooner or later Slater's gonna appear and trash the ackward button shapes of the cube's controller. Which is true. I could not ever play any of the Tony Hawks on the cube after being treated to the dreamcast/x-box incarnations.

Hell, I don't even know how people manage to play the GTA's on the ps2 when the keyboard/mouse setup on the pc is infinitely better.

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post #3 of 21
8/9/03 at 1:16pm
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I love the GC controller on its own. It feels great, it's comfortable, and for me, the buttons are fine. It's just so different to the PS2, and it totally threw me off.

Or maybe I'm just an idiot.
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post #4 of 21
8/9/03 at 1:17pm
I played both versions of GTA3, and I think that for gun aiming, the mouse works better, but the keyboard driving cannot hold a candle to the PS2 controller.
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post #5 of 21
8/9/03 at 1:20pm
I certainly felt like one after not being able to nollie, grind, or do any of the kick-flips when renting Hawk 4 after playing Hawk 3 for so long.

The cube controller is nice, for games like Metroid and Zelda...but for me the button shapes are awful. As well, I wish the developers wouldn't use the z-button at all. It's just painful to reach after awhile (I use the z button for the sail in zelda, as I seldom use it, but lately have been a lot)

damnit. if only I could adapt.
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post #6 of 21
8/9/03 at 1:34pm
I never really had a problem switching from system to system, on most days I go from PS2 to Xbox to Dreamcast to Gamecube, so I guess I got used to all the controllers. The only problem I have had was when I tried to play Soul Caliber 2 for Cube, controls just didn't feel right. I want Link in my SC 2 but I won't sacrifice bad controls for him.
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post #7 of 21
8/9/03 at 1:57pm
I played SC2 at a friend's house on the Cube and found the controls to be unbearable as well. But he had an adaptator which allowed you to use a PS2 controller on the Cube, so you might wanna look into that if you want to play with Link badly.

No problem going from system to system for me, more going from game to game. When I played one game for a long time then I switch to another one, I'm so used to the control scheme for the first game that it usually takes me a little while to adapt.
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post #8 of 21
8/9/03 at 8:38pm
Switching from system to system and controler to contoler is no problem to me since I play all three of the systems all the time. When I first used the X-Box controler though it was messed up for me since I was so used to the PS2 controler which is still the best one of course. I agree with Blunt on the switching from game to game thing though. I played Morrowind for such a long time and played nothing else then I played Smash Brothers and it was like I never played the game before.
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post #9 of 21
8/9/03 at 9:27pm
Tell you what, I've given up on the PS2.

I've gone through two of them, and both times it's mangled games, DVDs, and CDs.

And X-Box, flat out, has given me more joy and fun than any other system out there. When I play multiplayer Halo I'm as happy as a clam, and this week I'm getting KOTOR.

Bye-bye, PS2.
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post #10 of 21
8/11/03 at 3:24pm
Quote:
mongycore:
I could not ever play any of the Tony Hawks on the cube after being treated to the dreamcast/x-box incarnations.
I don't like playing on the Cube or the X-Box after the PS2 versions.
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post #11 of 21
8/11/03 at 3:45pm
Quote:
mongycore:
sooner or later Slater's gonna appear and trash the ackward button shapes of the cube's controller.
I'm so predictable.

But yeah, the PS2 simply has the best controller on the market. The Xbox's Controller S is decent, but I despise the layout for the white and black buttons, and it seems like Xbox controllers are strangely flimsy (I've replaced two controllers in two years).

The Gamecube has, quite possibly, the worst controller of any major console EVER. It's a fucking ergonomic nightmare. The button layout is unbalanced, the C-stick is flimsy, and the Z-Button is hard to reach, and the shoulder triggers are too difficult to depress. Worst of all, the rotten little grooves on the directional stick give you thumb blisters if you play too long...HATE.

Okay, I'll stop.
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post #12 of 21
8/11/03 at 4:16pm
I don't think you'd go through so many X-Box controllers if you didn't keep one down your pants while playing, Slater.

The biggest problem I have from jumping to different systems is that I always forget button configurations. A lot of the time I have to check the controller layout before I get back into a game. I'd say the Gamecube controller is my least favorite because of the shoulder button set-up.
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post #13 of 21
8/11/03 at 4:21pm
Hey, the rules are simple: If you don't want me shoving a controller up my ass, don't include the rumble feature.
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post #14 of 21
8/11/03 at 6:41pm
I'd have to put my money on the xbox controller. I've noticed it works great for a seasoned player as well as a noob.

The PS2 ranks in second, but too many buttons spells disaster for me.

Gamecube is dead last. Too many buttons, funky thumb controls.
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post #15 of 21
8/18/03 at 11:09am
The X-Box S controller is pretty solid, but if I ever play a game with their monster controller, I can't get anything done.
The PS/PS2 controller is not very ergonomic. The dual shoulder buttons are annoying, although the front button layout isn't bad.
The Gamecube controller is excellent. The layout works well, and it fits in your hands the best of any of the major controllers. My only beef is that lame Z button. They couldn't figure out where else to put it, so they just slapped it next to one of the shoulder buttons.
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post #16 of 21
8/18/03 at 10:19pm
I can't really chime in on the GC controller, because I haven't really spent any time with it. I mean, I don't like it, but I haven't played with it long enough to form an informed opinion on it.

I have an Xbox and a PS2, and I like the standard Xbox controller, but not as much as I like the PS Dual Shock/PS2 controller. Of course, it's entirely possible that this is due to familiarity more than anything else. I've been using that same controller style for nigh on a decade now. Any problems I ever had with it have long since been forgotten. Also, in defense of my liking the Xbox controller, I've got pretty big hands. Once I got used to it, it was no problem.

The cross-system adaptors are lifesavers. I've found that keeping a couple regular controllers, a controller S, and a PS adaptor pretty much covers the needs of anyone in my circle of friends who wants to come over and jump on the Xbox. And by the way, wouldn't the Controller S be perfect if they'd turned the black and white buttons into shoulder buttons, or is it just me?
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post #17 of 21
8/19/03 at 10:53am
Doesn't the S controller already have shoulder buttons? I hate the dual shoulder design. Give me one on each side and slap everything else on the front.
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post #18 of 21
8/19/03 at 3:01pm
It's got the triggers thrown under the shoulders, if I'm not mistaken. Almost where the L2 and R2 buttons are on the PS2 controller. I almost never use mine, so I could be wrong.
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post #19 of 21
8/20/03 at 2:24pm
Quote:
Hellblazer:
And by the way, wouldn't the Controller S be perfect if they'd turned the black and white buttons into shoulder buttons, or is it just me?
Mad Catz came out with an aftermarket with said feature.

But, do you really trust a Mad Catz Controller?
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post #20 of 21
8/20/03 at 5:48pm
I'll trust a Mad Catz controller about as far as I can throw it.

Which, incidentally, if I wrap the cord around it to cut down on drag, is a good 30-35 yards.
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post #21 of 21
8/20/03 at 6:01pm
I'd like to see more buttons moved to the back to completely take advantage of the two-to-three-to sometimes-four fingers back there that are never used. Why should the thumb do most of the work?
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