Final Fantasy

It won't get many responses because it appears that you were only joking around....

weren't you?

Isn't this in the wrong forum?

Shouldn't we be talking about the 'd20' conversion of 'Everquest' into a pen and paper game?

To stop playing a game midway through is sort've silly, don't you think? At least give it a fair shake by playing through it.

And it's TIDUS, not TITUS.

Final Fantasy isn't a role-playing game. The video game industry stole the term to describe games that allowed you to control a character whose powers could increase over time and in which you used your character to slove puzzles and fight monsters.

Video game RPGs suffer from a lack of imagination, because you are relying on someone else's vision of what your character is like or should act like. You are also in an environment where what you can do with your character is usually very restricted. You know the routine: character X starts in town A and must go to cave B and find item C to get treasure D to slay big boss E etc.

In a pen-and-paper roleplaying game, you have the chance to assume the role of your character in a story. I usually get right into it and make it more like an improvised play that a game when I play most RPGs. You also have complete freedom to try and do whatever you want. The Gamemaster (the person who narrates the story and handles rules descisions, etc.) must come up with a response to what you are trying based on his ideas of where the story is going.

Not that I don't like video RPGs. I am a Fallout and Baldur's Gate WHORE. But I find video game RPG's like reading novels to a limited extent. You can be immersed in a beautiful or imaginative setting, but you are more just along for the ride than really controlling what happens to your character. Honestly, I have yet to play ANY of the Final Fantasy games. I find most Japanese video RPGs very formulaic and stale. I played Dragon Warrior III for the old 8-bit Nintendo, and Parasite Eve for the PSX, but both were esentially the same. One was just WAY prettier than the other.

Well, the term RPG definitely most applies to games like Fallout and Baldur's Gate, since you can create your character.

But other than that, the FF games are very much similar in that you have a party, explore strange new worlds, go to towns and talk to people, and so on. Obviously, though, the FF games and other console RPGs have been inspired by the older RPGs.

Thank you, Ludwig!

Ludwig did: the Fallout and Baldur's Gate series.

Baldur's Gate 2 "didn't last long enough"?!?!

And I'm sorry, calling the developers of those games lazy is one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard.

Ok, holy shit.

First of all, I love the Baldur's Gate and Fallout series'. They are both in my top ten games of all time.

Ok, to say they didn't last long enough is like saying space is not infinite. Baldur's Gate II had 200 HOURS OF GAMEPLAY!! Maybe more if you did EVERY single thing possible. And the Fallout games had incredible depth as well. FF games of the past 5 years or so have had 60-80hrs at BEST.

I'm not gonna say Final Fantasy is better than these games, or vice versa because I consider them all equal, in a way.

And to say the developers are lazy...do you guys read their Designer Diaries?? Do you follow the development of the titles?? I guess not. They work 20 hour days, hell, even more sometimes to put the utmost quality into what they are making. To call them lazy is ridiculous.

Not playing video games.

Classic Adam Warren.... wink

My favorite FF game:

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The PS2 version has absolutely nothing to do with the PC ones in terms of gameplay.

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Well Genocide, we're talking about Baldur's Gate for the PC. You know, you can play games on your computer as well as surfing the web.

The 200 hours of gameplay, the immersive story, the great graphics and sound, pretty much everything.

The 200 hours of gameplay are in the PC version that you haven't played.

Geez, is this really such a tough concept?

To complete it once.

Go out to any PC game store. Find Baldur's Gate 1&2. For cheap. Buy them.

Play them. Then report back here.

If you say you couldn't get 300 hours out of the both of them combined, you didn't do much.

As in how bored I am with this conversation?