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3000 Miles To Graceland

post #1 of 21
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Finally saw this last night.

Am I the only one who thinks this just might be the most worthless piece of shit ever made?
post #2 of 21
As much of a hoot as it was to see Kurt dressed up as the King again, I'm inclined to agree. So many wasted opportunites this one had.
post #3 of 21
Talk about a movie that had no script. This one really didn't seem to have one from the first scene. Things just drift from place to place and then when it's two hours are up, they just decide to end it.

One of the worst movies ever considering the "talent" involved.
post #4 of 21
I remember reading that Russell and Costner both wrote scripts for this. Russell's had more defined characters, utilizing the rest of the cast more (Slater, Arquette, etc.) and a better plot. Costner pulled an ego trip and since the studio thinks Costner is more audience friendly went with his script instead.

If this is true, I would loveto see Russell's script and seehow it was different.

Zod, I agree that this movie had so much potential. It's a shame it went the way of pants.

Did anyone find it absolutely hystercal when Ice-T fell from the sky, guns blazing at the final gun scene. The entire theater I was with was like, "Whaaaat?!?"
post #5 of 21
They didn't write scripts, as far as I know. But they were both allowed to turn in different edits of the film. They went with Costner's version.
post #6 of 21
Kevin is right on target, two different cuts of the film.

This movie is pointless, I could find not a single good thing, save for Cox's ass.
post #7 of 21
I liked the really stupid opening with the fighting scorpions and the first half-hour. When they offed all the gang save for Russel and Costner and it basically turned into a boring chase movie, it totally lost what little interest it had up to that point. That said, Cox is indeed very sexy in this, one thing I thought she could never be.
post #8 of 21
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Kevin Matchstick:
They didn't write scripts, as far as I know. But they were both allowed to turn in different edits of the film. They went with Costner's version.
Ahh, I knew it was something like that. I would still like to see Russells' version. As I had a huge teenage crush on Christian Slater, I was looking forward to seeing more of him in the film.

post #9 of 21
I was thoroughly disappointed - I was expecting something along the lines of "Reservoir Elvii" and got "if you could run shit through a projector, it would be this film."

The worst is with the cast and concept, you figure they had to be TRYING to make something as anti-entertaining as this.
post #10 of 21
I remember reading at the time that the Russell edit focused heavily on the Cox Russell romance...in the end it was a choice between flashy shit or trashy shit.
post #11 of 21
I think it was the director who fucked this movie up -- David Fincher he is not. And the middle section just dragged on forever. However, I really liked Costner's character and performance.
post #12 of 21
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Duke:
I really liked Costner's character and performance.
I thought Costner's character was too much of a homicidal psycho - he had no redeeming qualities which made him the least bit likable, IMO, which helped doom the film. If you're going to have 2 main protagonists in a film like this, you have to be able to sympathize a little with the character.

But it seemed clear that Costner was having a bang-up time in the role; and if the script called for him to be an amoral, unlikable psychopath, well, he did an A-1 job of that.
post #13 of 21
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Costner was just happy to get the work...
post #14 of 21
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Chavez:

...and if the script called for him to be an amoral, unlikable psychopath, well, he did an A-1 job of that.
Well, he is the villain, so I think that it works for the film. The is film has a lot of problems, but I thought Costner was one of the few good things about it. It was very out of character for him. It's not everyday Kevin Costner plays a vicious psychopath.

However, this movie is pretty much ass. There are fun bits here and there, but the overall film is about as interesting as the bottom of my shoe (and I have some pretty boring shoes).
post #15 of 21
Love this movie.

Smart-assed, great cast - a plot akin to every bad movie of the 80's - this movie is just like watching Commando, Cobra, or Rambo, but with - dare I say it - a Tarantino sensibility.

It's not that the film has NO plot - it's just that it has a SMALL plot. Films with small plots aren't necessarily bad, as long as the filmmakers give you something to latch on to (Reservoir Dogs is almost the same film in a way - a heist, its aftermath, and the connections these men have made with each other unraveling as we watch - and here, the cast gives us terrifyingly intense performances to keep us suitably riveted).

In 3000 Miles, we have the flashy heist, the Elvis cheese, Kurt cool, Costner EVIL, over-the-top dufus action (I swear that things blow up when they are TOUCHED in this movie) and an attractive Courtney Cox for the first time since The Opposite Sex and How to Live with Them.

I find it amazing that a leading man like Costner - whose career depends on the everyman persona that permeates his every performance - so fully allowed himself to be the VILLAIN (unlike his turn in A Perfect World, where he is unfortunate yet likeable - here he is an INCREDIBLY rotten human - and that's a courageous move on his part).

I think the film has a very HK sensibility, in terms of some of the interaction among the crew (like when Costner is angry that Bokeem Woodbine has died - not that he was KILLED, but that he responded to the bullets by dying - as if he was supposed to be somehow too tough to die) and in terms of it's refusal to adhere to genre rules (it's the caper pic, it's the road movie, it's the buddy comedy...).

The film's flaw is in its cinematography - and here I think that falls on the director. Most of the way the film is shot is very Bruckheimer slick - the filters...the slow motion - but whenever footage is run through that undercranked, overexposed, slowed-in-post herky-jerky...ugh.

I think that, since the film was pretty well-shot, this was a bid by the director - probably late in post - to make things look "cool".

It taints many of the images, and removes us from a few interesting moments.

Still, in the end I figure it's a cool little-time waster, one that's hilariously unfriendly and gleefully cruel in a manner you usually don't see outside of Italo-Westerns and John Carpenter flicks.

It's fun and mean and it's got Kurt. You've almost gotta' like it.

post #16 of 21
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Striding Cloud Django:
Am I the only one who thinks this just might be the most worthless piece of shit ever made?
No. There is another.
post #17 of 21
Linda?
post #18 of 21
This is a film I've wanted to see but haven't yet (other than the scorpions). It looks totally stylish and I don't have the automatic hate-on for Kevin Costner that some do.
post #19 of 21
Thread Starter 
Who am I? Do you really wanna know?
post #20 of 21
I can watch that casino shootout and Costner's final stand with the M-60 on repeat. As for the rest of the movie, I can't really remember.
post #21 of 21
I liked HAM's defense of the movie a heck of a lot more than the actual film.
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