MIB 2 Discussion

HATE

I'll be skipping this one just like I SHOULD've skipped the first one.

Should I just save the 8 dollars and give myself an enema right now?

Ew.

How was Biz Markie?

See, I liked the first one, kinda. But this is the exact same movie, but not funny and with hotter chicks.

Couldn't stand it at all.

Yeah I really liked the first.

The trailers didn't seem THAT bad, but I trust Tony's opinion of the film so I probably won't be seeing this.

I'm gonna see it.. I liked the first one and I think I'll like the second one.. Looks like a fun time, if nothing else.

Frank The Pug needs his own spin-off picture.

I liked the first one and pugs are fine animals. Very Friendly. The only thing is they shed a lot. Yes, i own a pug.

Saw it tonight, and enjoyed it. I second Nick's comments - nothing more than fun, and avoid if you didn't like the first film.

What bothered me most was the running time. It seems to me that a film like this should be a little longer... granted, you didn't miss a whole lot, but it felt odd to be walking out after 85 minutes.

Other than that, bring on more Frank the Pug and the Worm Guys for MIB 3...

Well, if they promised not to hire Roja Gosnell or cast Sarah Michelle Gellar and Freddie Prinze I'd give it a chance.

"Babe, Babe, Babe...come here, kid. Let me explain sumthin' to ya...."

All this talk about the movie is nice, but the real burning question is:

what trailers did you see?

Sorry, but I thought this movie was pretty much an uninspired piece of crap.

And you would be correct, SJR.

I liked the first one, even bought the DVD, but I really didn't like this movie.

**minor spoilers**

Anything that hit in the first movie, gets way too much screen time in the second. Worm guys, the pawn shop guy, and talking dog all get big screen time. The filmmakers also love to show how small things can be. In MIB it was the universe in a pendant and little alien inside a mechanical head. In MIB2 it’s a world in a small orb, a city in a locker, and a rocket 12 inches high.

The major plot was even a rehash of the first movie (big bad alien comes to earth looking for powerful alien artifact, MIB also need to find it in XX hours or the world will be destroyed. countdown clock included, explanation of why the artifact is powerful not included, again.)

When a movie is only 80 minutes+credits, and you spending a lot of time looking at things you have already seen, it doesn’t leave much room for new material. The first movie gave me the feeling that I was getting a peak into an amazing secret world. MIB2 let me know that I had seen everything the first time.

On a side note, I'm a big fan of David Cross and enjoyed his scene.

A July 4th weekend Will Smith "event" flick is uninspired? The hell you say!

wink

Hey there,

Sadly a very ordinary effort. Not awful, but nothing good either. Very run of the mill effort.

BTW, what the hell happened to Knoxville's character?

"Anything that hit in the first movie, gets way too much screen time in the second. Worm guys, the pawn shop guy, and talking dog all get big screen time."

...just like in the cartoon. Which supposedly has nothing to do with the movie.

"The filmmakers also love to show how small things can be. In MIB it was the universe in a pendant and little alien inside a mechanical head. In MIB2 it’s a world in a small orb, a city in a locker, and a rocket 12 inches high."

Size matters.

"The major plot was even a rehash of the first movie (big bad alien comes to earth looking for powerful alien artifact, MIB also need to find it in XX hours or the world will be destroyed. countdown clock included, explanation of why the artifact is powerful not included, again.)"

In the first one, WHY is not important. The point was that possesion of it in the wrong hands caused an overkill response, because it was an extremely powerful energy source...in Wargames, they don't stop and explain why a nuclear explosion would be bad.
And why the artifact is powerful IS explained. What you're wondering about is how the galaxy can be contained in a marble.,,,and thet's a zen physics question. Granted, trying to explain zen physics would pad the movie time out considerably.....

One thing is for certain: this film doesn't deserve the HATE it's getting here. It's not like this is the worst movie ever.

If you hated the first one, then don't bother to see this one. It's the exact same movie, but it isn't offensive in any way.

It's a time waster. Nothing more. Disliking it is one thing, but hating it?

Why bother.

Yeah, I mean....yehoos-christi, it's not like the film stars Adam Sandler or anything.

More important, is the trailer for the Two Towers on before it?

Only reason I'd be going.

The only trailer we saw was for XXX.

We took the loss.

Some would say the same about Nick's editorial on Sandler.

We all have our targets that deserve a killshot to the skull in our eyes. Mileage varies.

The real question is how the hell did they find enough fat cells to squeeze into something that even resembles breasts on Lara Flynn Boyle?

I think that was Steve's point. The people who seem to be hating MIB2 the most here would have hated MIB2 no matter what was shown on the screen. I give slightly more value to hearing the good/bad opinions of objective reviewers over prewritten attack venom for killshot targets. But then again, mileage varies.

I'm not going to put words in his mouth, but if that was Steve's point, then he's saying, as I am saying, that Nick's Sandler editorial was also "a waste."

It's nothing against Nick, but everyone singles out certain movies or actors with extreme disgust and bewilderment that others enjoy them so much.

I did that for MiB 2.

He did it for Mr. Deeds/Sandler and Resident Evil.

I'm sure you do it for something else as well.

It IS a waste, but it's one that people shouldn't shy away from engaging in. It's cathartic, if nothing else.

And for future reference, if you want to lay down the gauntlet and challenge someone's opinion, there are about 7,956,832,065,843 MORE creative ways to do it simply than throwing their words back at them.

Give one of those a spin and let me know how it turns out.

Ouch!

ROTFLMAO! A hit dog will holler! It was just one anonymous opinion on one Internet message board. Grow up, thicken that skin and don't take things so personal.

Yeah...because I just blew my top and laid into you with all the fury I could summon.

I wasn't insulting you. I was serious, skippy. That was a very uncreative comeback, just as this is an even sillier followup.

Put some effort into your quips. I don't think that's too much to ask. Echoing me does wonders for my ego, but not for this conversation or any of the related points.

Take your homework assignment and bounce now, 'kay? Thanks.

BACK to MiB2....

This seems to be yet another film that polarizes internet film enthusiasts into the "harmless" and "utter shit" camps.

I'm definitely going to be interested into hearing how people who slammed Mr. Deeds and Resident Evil justify this one as "harmless fun."

Yikes! Good review though.

I respect SJR's opinion more than a lot of people, but I'm still going to see this. If anything, with the same morbid curiosity that I saw Jason X.

hey go see powerpuff instead, at least you'd be supporting a creative idea (even though it is in it's 5th season now). If i had money i'd pay for powerpuff and hop to MIB

Haven't seen it yet, but I have a question for those who have:

Is this a "Ghostbusters 2" situation?

Cast going through the motions.
Warmed-up plot leftovers from the previous film.

Incidental characters elevated to supporting roles based on focus group testing.

Just enough spark left from the first film to scrape by.

That about sums it up. Although whether or not it has enough spark left seems to be a matter of opinion.

In my opinion, SJR's review is dead on. The whole movie feels like an attempt to make some easy cash. I understand it's a "summer movie" and making a good sequel is difficult, but I expect a little effort.

HATE.

Just saw this. SJR...You are most definitely correct on this one.

Too much hype. Too much expectation. Everything the movie is, is laid out in the trailer. Those were the only funny bits and everyone saw them over a month ago. Very little real character development, very little story development. (What the hell was the "Light" again??)

In the immortal words of J. "Damn."

Not as bad as I figured it would be, but nothing special. A mindless, summer movie. Nothing more, nothing less. As stated above, if you liked the first one, you'll enjoy this one.

Lara Flynn Boyle looked smokin' hot (like usual).

The trailers I saw:

Terminator 3
Signs
XXX
Blue Crush

EDITED BECAUSE I FORGOT 3 TRAILERS:

Die Another Day
DareDevil
I Spy

Yep, we had 7 trailers, I kid you not. I really don't think I've ever seen so many trailers. Oh, and the CGI / Cartoon at the beginning of the movie.

T3 trailer!! Really? I hadn't heard this would be out, what was it like. Damn, I must be ina black hole or something. Is it up on the net?

She looks like a praying mantis.

It's nothing but the typical T2 intro music, some CGI T1000 metal that combines and morphs into a big T. A fairly cheesy arc-weld line traces out a 3 on the face of the T, and the pieces inside the 3 fall out. So it shows basically a T with a 3 cut out of it. Then it said Rise of the Machines underneath it...gives the web address and out. Totally unforgettable. Not thrilling at all except to hear that music in a decent DTS theater, which I can hear at home, so that wasn't much either.

We had XXX, Signs, Goldmember, T3, and some other forgettable CGI cartoon before the feature.

As for MIB2, I personally really liked the first movie, and still watch it to this day. This one was totally embarrassing (I was close to walking out 20 minutes in). Will Smith played a decent role working with what he had been given. It was just too many over-hyped secondary characters from the first movie.

Enough. Dull. I forget already.

Just saw it...thought the first one was farely entertaining. This one, however... first of all, I think Will Smith used to have some genuine charm. In MIB1 and (shudder) Independence Day, Will came across as a pretty likeable and amusing fellow with some clever dialogue. MIB2 starred the Will Smith Replicant (as seen in Wild Wild West and Ali) and Tommy Lee Jones, now under the influence of powerful sedatives. Suffice to say, it was unamusing and even mildly disturbing seeing these people read their lines to each other. Very poor CG, must've been the Mummy Returns team. And that little Sprint store in the fucking MIB headquarters....goddamn. How secret can the MIB be if theres a fucking Sprint store in their headquarters? Is there a Starbucks across the hall, too? On a final note, David Cross' girlfriend in the movie wasn't too bad. Not too bad at all. Mmmm-hmmm.

My son and I were just having this conversation. At lunch after the movie, I looked up from my Whopper (product placement from the movie must have sublimated itself into my appetite-reflex) and asked him what happened to the guy with two heads. His bewildered reply was: "Didn't Sarleena send him out to look for something? I guess he's still looking."

And after David Cross' character is neuralyzed, why does he leave with a shovel?

Overall, meh. It's like they thought up a sequel but only filmed the Cliff notes. No hatred for it, though I'll probably forget all about it in half an hour.

Decent mix of trailers though.
The Two Towers
Die Another Day
teasers for Daredevil and T3

Also included were trailers for I Spy, xXx, and Blue Crush, all of which seemed interminably long. Each one felt like they showed the entire movie from beginning to end in 3 minutes. I hate that.

I'm actually interested in seeing that "Blue Crush" movie. "Big Wendsday" with chicks. Surfing is one of my favorite sports ever, even though I've never done it.

Btw, i just looked it up on IMDB, and it really is the same ILM Visual Effects Supervisor from Mummy Returns. And was it just me, or were the inhabitants of that miniature water sphere world thing that K stuck his finger in recycled designs from the (dvd version) Episode 1 Pod Race?

Yeah, that cartoon...pretty funny, but ugh, I'm finding CGI getting more and more unappealling unless it's really dazzlingly exectued.

Speaking of which, the effects in MiB 2 SUCKED ASS. I couldn't believe it, it was almost Lost in Space bad. You'd think for an 85 minute movie with several years between it and the original they would have been able to devote the time and effort to getting nice FX.

Yeah, pretty mediocre, though a decent enough diversion. But why do BOTH Men in Black films give virtually NO explanation for the object that the fate of the world depends on. I mean, we know "the Light of Zartha" is just a MacGuffin, but you've got to at least *pretend* otherwise. It really makes it seem like the movies have been edited to hell. (BTW, what was up with the opening sequence with the planets exploding? Maybe that has something to do with why Serleena wanted the Light....argh.)

This sequel was tolerable, but utterly useless.

Decent showing on the fun-o-meter, but grossly uninspired. Somebody wake up Tommy Lee Jones...