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post #51 of 69
I must have the worst taste in movies ever.... or it could be the CHUD anti-hype. CHUD has made my dream come true for finding at least ONE good thing about every movie ever made because as soon as I come here, I know that whatever movie is out is SHIT. That's shit.....this is shit.....that must be shit.....same old shit....pile of shit.

Granted Men in Black 2 is not the greatest comedy ever made, hell it isn't even close to being cohesive at some times. But it SURE AS HELL isn't Freddy Got Fingered and you all are treating it as. It is the same as MIB and for those who crave more of the same I say go for it and see the movie. I got my 5 dollars worth, and that is most likely in part of expecting it to be the worst movie since GODZILLA '98 because of you guys.

That's just my little rant from a guy with bad taste in movies.
post #52 of 69
I worried that this would suck from the beginning, and sadly, I was right.

I really liked the first one. I thought it was extremely clever at times, had interesting CGI and characters, and created a cool little premise for a fun sci-fi comedy.

This one shoves it all down the toilet. First off, no one is as good as before. Will Smith? No. There's no mystery, no confusion, no getting used to working in this big agency. Just Will trying to be as hip and sarcastic as he was before, but hindered by a childish script.

Tommy Lee Jones is even worse. There's no hint of the lonely and world-weary MIB agent, he's just a shell of what the character was in the first film. He's simply not Kay. He's too nice, not as funny, and just bland.

There are a few good comic moments, but they're not plentiful enough and frankly not good enough to warrant a good review. The CGI is overdone and looks pretty damn fake. Too many jokes fall flat. The villain sucks compared to Donofrio. The chick sucks next to Fiorentino.

All in all a waste. They didn't even attempt to do anything original or interesting.
post #53 of 69
I saw the trailers for
-I Spy
-T3
-Swimfan@ (ugh, never again)
-Goldmembers
-Signs
-XXX

Add that CGI cartoon with it, and it was approximately 30 minutes before MIB2 actually started.

*possible spoilers, like it matters with this movie*

-Didn't Johnny Knoxville's character get killed in the K + J shooting spree in the pawn shop basement?

- I think David Cross's character was going to kill his mother with that shovel.

- Jason X was still 22x worse than MIB2.
post #54 of 69
in response to the Donofrio/fiorentino comparison. I hope I'm not the only one who found both those characters overacted like a mofo in the first movie.
I honestly cringe every time donofrio is oncreen.
just plain annoying.
post #55 of 69
*sigh*
what a freaking let down

i went to the movie expecting to see a 2 towers preview on the big screen and didn't get it... bah

oh yeah... and the movie was crap, in my opinion now...

Is it just me, or did that movie's plot sort of NOT exist at all? You could watch the previews and it was just as fulfilling. The only thing i didn't get from the trailers was the girl and the reason that evil chick was on earth... otherwise i could have missed the entire movie and lost very little of the story.
post #56 of 69
Like Steve, I find the hate for this film puzzling.

Though I like Patrick Warburton, I will admit to getting impatient for TLJ's return, but once showed up, I found this every bit as entertaining as the first.

As in the first, I love the off-hand comedic invention on display here; e.g., the universe in a locker (which pays off nicely, even though it does conceivably stand at odds with the first film's final pull-back), K's inadvertant plunging of that microcosm into apocalypse, the throw-away NYC gags (I particularly enjoyed one alien being given the directive to stay out of public during the day, unless he's in the East Village). No, these aren't classic bits, but they're fun to keep track of as they zip by -- kinda like the film itself. I'd rather they make more MIB sequels than, say, Steven Sommers's MUMMY monstrosities.

Somebody asked why David Cross was carrying a shovel as he exited the scene; I assume he was going to kill his mother, but it's a non-sequitor, so I wouldn't exert too much effort in trying to figure it out.
post #57 of 69
I wasn't a big fan of the first film because it had the money shot from the end sequence in every trailer for the film, and because I thought Will Smith's character needed to humbled in the film, where I thought his character got away with being too cocksure throughout.

Here I was pleasantly surprised throughout, and laughed enough to enjoy myself. This is not a great movie, and the story is virtually nonexistant, but both Will Smith and TLJ are at the top of their comic game here. Seriously, I think this is as good as Smith has ever been on screen, and I like how he shifts from in charge to child once TLJ gets his memory back. And all his exasperated momnets were hilarious. Also the film is peppered with great suporting players who do what they do best in a minute or less (Zed's kung fu, etc.)

Sure it's disposal entertainment, but any film that hands over the entire film for five minutes to David Cross (I couldn't have laghed harder at his pizza bagels speech) gets a pass in my book.
post #58 of 69
"She has palsy, so she always goes heavy on the cheese," or something like that. Biggest laugh in the film for me.
post #59 of 69
First of all, I'm embarassed. Still haven't seen Minority Report, or Sum of All Fears, but MIB2 gets me to leave the house. There's an explanation, but it's even more embarrassing: I love pugs. Had pugs as pets growing up, got a cute li'l pug named Willow right now, and when I heard that Frank the Pug was gonna have an extended role in the sequel, I pretty much knew I'd have to see it.

I like the original alot. Never understood the hate for it. I thought it was a really clever spoof of the whole X-Files UFO/Conspiracy culture, and...yeah, I'll say it...probably a better movie than Ghostbusters.

The sequel--there's just nothing to it. It's not even worth talking about, really, but I will. I get the feeling--in fact, I'd lay money on it--that alot was cut from the script. As has already been pointed out, there's alot of loose ends that are never addressed. And you can say "well, who cares, it's just a comedy", but I think comedies are alot funnier if they take the basic story at least a little seriously, and don't just treat it as a springboard for gags. The second problem I had was that every gag that did work (including pretty much every second of Frank the Pug's screentime) I'd already seen in trailers and making-of specials. In fact, I'm pretty sure I saw 88 minutes of footage before going to the theatre.

bleh.
post #60 of 69
Not quite a waste of time. Not quite a good time waster.
post #61 of 69
it was pretty good. I laughed at the parts i was supposed to laugh at, the pug was funny, and the effects were good (not great). There should have been more stuff between Smith and Jones, but sonnefeld must think we all have miniscule attention spans. It's like he was in a hurry to finish the whole thing up.

the only truely horrible effect in the movie was at the end when J's love interest is in that pod.
post #62 of 69
oh yeah, the chubchub short was good
post #63 of 69
I Enjoyed it. It Wasn't a Piece of Shit. But It Wasn't a Masterpiece either. It was Way too short. That little Ending with the locker felt too tacked on.

Frank the Pug was Awesome, So Were the Worms. The Scen where they were in MIB headquarters Smoking Cigars talking about some Woman/female Dog/Whatever and laughing was Hilarious.

The Little Civilization in the Locker was Great too.

All in all a Pretty good Movie. Just too Short.
post #64 of 69
Quote:
mikah912:
I'll be skipping this one just like I SHOULD've skipped the first one.
Dittto!
post #65 of 69
This movie was ass. I didn't expect to like it as much as I mostly liked the first one, but this one was just plain bad.
post #66 of 69
Quote:
Shane M:
This movie was ass. I didn't expect to like it as much as I mostly liked the first one, but this one was just plain bad.
Touche.

I agree, though it was fun at times and I had a few laughes they didn't seek to introduce anything new to the mystery world of MIB.
post #67 of 69
I'd have watched the animated short numerous times rather than this. No likeable characters, predictable story, jokes were worn out in trailers...

And as I've said, Like Mike was a better movie.
post #68 of 69
I thought this film was pretty much like the first: good chemistry between Smith and Jones, nice effects, just plain entertaining. However, also like the first one, I thought that this film had zero replay value. Both MIB films seems to have the unique ability to become very old very fast.
post #69 of 69
I got the impression that in the begining of the movie it had a solid story but then it just fell apart. It felt like 30min of the film just went MIA. This could be because of a total makover of the finale due to 9/11, I heard that in the original storyline the World Trade Center played a big part.
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