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post #1 of 70
Thread Starter 
This thread is for the sole purpose of uniting Chewers for continual support in ridding ourselves from various physical addictions.

Cigarettes, Drugs, Alcohol, Food....pick your poison.

Take the CHUD Challenge! We can do it! Together!
post #2 of 70
Thread Starter 
I'll start.

I've been setting small, yet attainable goals for myself for awhile now. I stopped smoking marijuana for good, back in 2000, and though I was only an occasional drinker, had my last one at Christmas 2002. I recently lost the 20 lbs I gained while I was unemployed and today I smoke my last cigarette.

With all the deaths in the news this week, hearing about Fett's mother, and watching the weight challenge with Dr. Phil/Katie Couric last night - I feel stronger than ever. It IS mind over matter. Nothing more and nothing less.

In reading Fett's thread this morning, I discovered that Fett and Alice are going to quit smoking which inspired me to start this thread. Kudos to you both. I know there are other smokers here and I'd love for you to join me in a CHUD Challenge. It's much easier to reach your goals when you have friends who support your efforts.

Quitting smoking has been my toughest challenge. I've stopped twice in my lifetime. Now I want to be able to say that I quit for good. I'm not making excuses for myself anymore! None of this..oh, I'm not quite ready bullshit. I'm NOT ready..so the time is NOW. I'm facing it head-on and I'm gonna win!

post #3 of 70
Im slowly working towards quitting smoking... Ive gotten it down to 3/day.
post #4 of 70
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Dylan 'DJ Dylan' Friedman:
Im slowly working towards quitting smoking... Ive gotten it down to 3/day.
I'm assuming we're not talking cigarettes here?
post #5 of 70
I don't have any addictions--at least not any that I want to kick--but I have quit smoking before in the past. So for all you chewers out there who are trying to stop, I'll be the one with the whip making sure you don't "fall of the wagon!"
post #6 of 70
I never much prefered wagons to begin with. I'm more of a Jeep girl myself.
post #7 of 70
I haven't smoked since Friday morning. And I don't miss it. Well, not really.
post #8 of 70
I've not smoked since... well, whenever I said my last cigarette was, which I think was Wednesday or Thursday.

I wanted one *reeeeally* badly yesterday though. I drove to Hastings, after visiting Bodiam Castle, and I bought some inferior fish and chips smothered in too much salt and sat on the beach and et them. And the one thought that kept occurring to me was, "This meal could be salvaged with a cigarette."

Of course it wouldn't have been, because I've been off them for about four days so any cigarette I smoked would have had that awful taste they have after you've not had any for awhile, not the smooth comforting taste they have when you've been seriously engaged with them. It would have just made everything worse what with the added self-loathing and all.

So, anyway. That's the testimonial for today. Thanks for the good wishes, Avalon!

(Edited for my ungraciousness and illiteracy)

post #9 of 70
I have a severe, severe, SEVERE spending problem. Plus other addictions that are too personal to go into here. However, if anyone would like to offer any suggestions on how to keep from getting sued by the bank, get out of debt, and STAY out of debt, I would love to hear them.

And as for everyone else who is dealing with their various addictions, I have only this to say: One day at a time. I know it's cheesy and cliched, but it's only cliched because it's true. One day at a time. I've found that that can be the simplest and easiest advice to follow, and it has proven for me to be the most successful and worthwhile. So, one day at a time. Peace.
post #10 of 70
There are many reasons a person overspends, and it's probably too big to get into here, but try this one for size:

Pay your bills with cheques and buy everything else in CASH ONLY. It helps when you see those actual notes going over as opposed to the relatively painless process of surrendering plastic for thirty seconds.

Secondly, cut up every store card and credit card you own, except one for EMERGENCIES. So if you max that out, you're fucked.

Get a loan and pay off all your cards with it. The interest will be less than the cards, and the payment amount won't change.

And then you just have to tough it out.

I've done it, and I overspent for years. You can do it too. You just have to suck it up, soldier. But destroying the cards is very necessary. Scary, but necessary.
post #11 of 70
Quote:
Alice Is Pretty In Pink:
Pay your bills with cheques and buy everything else in CASH ONLY. It helps when you see those actual notes going over as opposed to the relatively painless process of surrendering plastic for thirty seconds.
It's not really safe to carry around a lot of cash in NYC, but I did try that for a week. I stress only ONE week and I withdrew cash from the ATM four times with a minimum of $40 each time.

No wonder I'm always strapped for cash. The sad part is I don't even know what I spent it on. Nothing tangible (food, booze, etc).

Anyway, I use my debit card now and always keep my receipts. Every Sunday, I balance my checkbook (via computer program) so that I actually have to input what I spent all my money on. It's quite an eye opener.

Nowadays, I can afford to transfer $100 a paycheck into my savings account. Since doing that, I've managed to save up quite a bit of cash, which I hope to use to go on a really nice vacation one day.
post #12 of 70
Actually, I should start my savings account up again. I cancelled it when the shit hit the fan in Birmingham.

I can see how carrying cash would be perilous in NYC, but on the other hand, I always find it amazing how I can really really want something, and then if I don't buy it within 24 hours, my desire for it evaporates. That's why I got into leaving my credit cards at home.

And store cards are Satan - no more or less. I don't know how it goes down in the States, but here they are currently being chastised by the government for their usurious rates. You're looking at something like 30% APR for some of those bastards.

I was delighted to shred mine on New Year's Eve, and I haven't regretted it since.
post #13 of 70
I'm not great with cash, but I'm just concentrating on the smoking right now.
post #14 of 70
And that alone will save you a ton of cash right there.

I worked out in Birmingham that my second biggest outgoing after rent wasn't food, or transport, or even movies... it was smoking. Seriously. Twenty a day is £31.50 a week, or £126 a month, which is pretty steep whatever way you look at it.
post #15 of 70
Yeah, in NY a pack of cigarettes run you about $8.00. I know people who smoke a pack a day, which equals over $200 a month!
post #16 of 70
Quote:
Social's neither here nor there:
Quote:
Dylan 'DJ Dylan' Friedman:
Im slowly working towards quitting smoking... Ive gotten it down to 3/day.
I'm assuming we're not talking cigarettes here?
I was talking about cigarettes.
post #17 of 70
I have to hand it to you guys, I wish I could quit smoking, but I know I'm not ready yet. You have to want to.

I think if I quit smoking at this point in my life I would probably implode from the stress.
post #18 of 70
Quote:
Dylan 'DJ Dylan' Friedman:
Quote:
Social's neither here nor there:
Quote:
Dylan 'DJ Dylan' Friedman:
Im slowly working towards quitting smoking... Ive gotten it down to 3/day.
I'm assuming we're not talking cigarettes here?
I was talking about cigarettes.
In that case, cool! You're almost there then Dylan.
post #19 of 70
Yikes, if someone was smoking three joints a day and that was their "light" day, they'd be pretty fucked up.
post #20 of 70
Quote:
Diva dies by stereo:
Yikes, if someone was smoking three joints a day and that was their "light" day, they'd be pretty fucked up.
I actually go to school with someone who does at least 5-8 joints a day, and that's after he has cut back some.

Oh, and yea, he is pretty fucked up!

post #21 of 70
Quote:
Diva dies by stereo:
Yikes, if someone was smoking three joints a day and that was their "light" day, they'd be pretty fucked up.
I know a lot of people like that. They function, yeah, but just about.

Happily enough I never refuse a joint, but am perfectly content to go months without them. It's one of those addictions that passed me by, really.
post #22 of 70
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Alice Is Pretty In Pink:
Quote:
Diva dies by stereo:
Yikes, if someone was smoking three joints a day and that was their "light" day, they'd be pretty fucked up.
I know a lot of people like that. They function, yeah, but just about.

Happily enough I never refuse a joint, but am perfectly content to go months without them. It's one of those addictions that passed me by, really.
Ditto.
post #23 of 70
I am, however, absolutely gagging for a fag right now, and have been all morning.
post #24 of 70
I'll join you in that sentiment. If I had nails, they'd be ripping into my palms right about now.
post #25 of 70
Quote:
Diva dies by stereo:
Yeah, in NY a pack of cigarettes run you about $8.00. I know people who smoke a pack a day, which equals over $200 a month!
Holy shit!!
8 bucks for a pack of cigarettes!!

And I thought we had it bad over here where a pack costs about the equivalent of 4 bucks.

Well, if I ever go the US I'd better have quit smoking by then.

That reminds me, best of luck everyone quitting your addictions!!!

post #26 of 70
I know! Last time I was in the US, it was $4.75 for a pack of Marlboro Lights. That was probably about three or four years ago. That said, I remember when it was $1.75 for 20 smokes, and that was what you paid in sterling.

I guess the Yanks caught on to that whole taxing-them-to-fuck thing.

And Fett, for some reason, today is really bad. The worst I've had so far, actually.

Though I bust into a coughing fit during a meeting today and stuff came out of my lungs that was not a pretty colour. Not alarming, but definitely not attractive. Maybe I'm starting to clean myself out.

For the last few weeks my lungs had felt very congested, sometimes I'd hear things bubble in there if I smoked too much, and that's gone for now, thank Christ, because that was scaring the shit out of me. So I'm not inclined to start again in a hurry.

I am inclined, however, to whinge endlessly about how much I'd like a fag, to whoever will listen.
post #27 of 70
I know what you mean. I'm just in a generally shitty/depressing mood anyway, and the lack of nicotine isn't helping one iota.
post #28 of 70
I'm really bad-tempered lately, certainly. Almost bellicose.

You may laugh, but I'm going to get back into Yoga. I got this divida with all of the exercises, and it's full of deep-breathing and stretching and relaxation and correcting your posture, and I meant to do it a while ago but it didn't seem worth it while smoking, since every time I breathed in deeply I rattled slightly, which was a tad off-putting.

I suppose I could start now. I could do with some of that mysterious Eastern zen-like calm that Yoga is meant to impart.
post #29 of 70
Thread Starter 
I am, however, absolutely gagging for a fag right now, and have been all morning.

I'll join you in that sentiment. If I had nails, they'd be ripping into my palms right about now.

OKAY! NOW we're talking...and the reason for this thread. Dylan, stay put.

I'm using sex, my "other" addiction, to get me through. j/k! j/k!

It's been a rough couple of days, but I'm holding on. Yes, I have started chewing on my fingernails and even scouted through my waste basket in my office looking for butts. Desperate means calls for desperate measures, I guess. However, I find that when I take deep, slow cleansing breaths (much like that of a badly needed first drag), it helps me.

My mood has been good because I'm happy that I'm quitting, and when I feel myself getting tense, I put my mindset elsewhere. A happy place. You know, like picturing Depp naked while staring at his new EW pics. wink

(It's a hand to mouth thing)

Oh. Don't. Tempt. Me. *evil grins*
post #30 of 70
(Tries to think of happy place...)

Umm... oh, I got one! Oh no, dammit, he smokes... um, okay... yeah. Oh that one's nice. Yeah, that'll do...

Actually, this whole "sex-as-distraction" thing sounds interesting. Is there a group I can join?
post #31 of 70
While not wanting to sound like a fifteen-year old goth, I don't think I have a happy place right now.
post #32 of 70
I'll go ahead and volunteer to help out with the sex as distraction thing. So let's get a collection together for airfare.
post #33 of 70
Downer, dude...

Avalon, how long have you been quit now?

(Edited to point out that I meant Fett with the downer comment and not Sammy, who is welcome to fly over and convince me that sleeping with him will distract me from the pain of nicotine withdrawal. Hell, if he's successful, he can try the same technique on Fett... )

post #34 of 70
Thanks for the clarification.

Oh, and while I sympathize with Fett, he's on his own. I'm sure he'll understand. I'll play video games with him to distract him though.
post #35 of 70
I quit cigarettes over a decade ago, and haven't looked back since. Eventually you'll be extremely happy you've scraped this particular habit off of your shoe...
post #36 of 70
This is the downer. I've quit before. I've quit for eleven months once.

I guess I just suck. However, I've now whinged so much in this thread, I could never dare take it up again.
post #37 of 70
Quote:
Fett:
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Alice Is Pretty In Pink:
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Diva dies by stereo:
Yikes, if someone was smoking three joints a day and that was their "light" day, they'd be pretty fucked up.
I know a lot of people like that. They function, yeah, but just about.

Happily enough I never refuse a joint, but am perfectly content to go months without them. It's one of those addictions that passed me by, really.
Ditto.
But the difference between cigareetes and joints is that no one smokes a whole joint by themselves. They "puff, puff, give" to the next bloke. I refuse to believe that you know people who smoke more than 5 WHOLE joints in one day. There is no way they could function at any level.
post #38 of 70
I dunno. I think it depends on how big the joint is.

I mean, my best mate smokes most of the day. If I go up there, it will be at least five joints between three people in one evening, though me and her will share a couple in the afternoon. But they are quite skinny.
post #39 of 70
I suppose. NYC joints are usually rolled to maximum capacity. Also, it also depends on how potent it is. I've had joints where one hit knocked me out cold and others that I could smoke non-stop and still function really well.
post #40 of 70
When you start smoking five joints a day, each of those joints isn't gonna come close to effecting you like your once-a-week joint would. Its perfectly easy to function normally and smoke five joints a day, its just expensive and a waste of time.
post #41 of 70
My problem is that I spend too much time on the internet. Can this group help me with that?
post #42 of 70
Yeah. Everytime you post, I'll reply, "Log off, fuck head!"
post #43 of 70
I must say, that as much as this morning sucked on a fag-wantingness scale, the evening's been fine. I also discovered that a friend sent me an enormous one of those ROTK posters - the one with Sam cradling Frodo, and that's done wonders for my morale.

I expect the nice glass of chilled Chardonnay I've got at my elbow will also improve matters.

Plus I made a nice bowl of beef noodle soup with veg and sesame oil and other niceness, which I'm eating now, and I can actually taste it, which rocks pretty hard.

Still not in a very Yoga place yet though.
post #44 of 70
Thread Starter 
Actually, this whole "sex-as-distraction" thing sounds interesting. Is there a group I can join?

Heh. You're IN it.

While not wanting to sound like a fifteen-year old goth, I don't think I have a happy place right now.

Sweetie, with all you're going through, that is quite understandable. Just know that we're here for ya to offer the support you need to rid yourself of this insidious habit for good. That's all any of us can do for each other. It really is up to each of us an individuals to make across that "finished" line.

Sammy, be careful. We may take you up on it. Charles, included! Heh..it's a tough habit. Tougher than quitting heroin, so I've read.

Avalon, how long have you been quit now?

Saturday.

It's doubly tough because my husband has no intention of quitting. My son has been my biggest supporter because he is quitting, too. He's only smoked for a few years and I can't very well keep telling him to quit if I don't set an example myself.

Good for you, Jacob! Maybe you can offer some tips or advice? I work with a guy that has quit for several weeks now. Yesterday, I found out that he is using a lot of intake support (pills that work like a patch). I'm doing it cold turkey. How did you do it?

As an aside, I've stopped twice in my lifetime. Once for two months (I think it was), and the other time was for two years while I was pregnant and nursing my son. Once he was weaned, I couldn't pick it up again fast enough. Bad, girl. BAD!

However, I've now whinged so much in this thread, I could never dare take it up again.

Noooo, don't Alice. You can do it! That's why we're here. For support!

As far as smoking joints go, they are psychologically addictive, not physically addictive. I was definitely hooked in the psychological department. Loved it and still feel it should be legalized for medicinal purposes. Though I was a heavy user back in my 20's..not back in 2000. In fact, it was 5 years before that, that I had my own/last goodie bag. It was fun, but no more.

But the difference between cigareetes and joints is that no one smokes a whole joint by themselves. They "puff, puff, give" to the next bloke. I refuse to believe that you know people who smoke more than 5 WHOLE joints in one day. There is no way they could function at any level.

I agree and disagree. Yes, I was a greedy biatch. I rolled one and smoked the whole thing myself. But yes, I would share with others if they were around. I found that the more you smoke the less effect it has. If you stop for say 3-5 months and then have one..it feels much stronger. But, maybe that's just me.

I've had joints where one hit knocked me out cold and others that I could smoke non-stop and still function really well.

Agreed.

Russell, we are here to help. Actually, one of the reasons I haven't been posting much the last couple of days is because I like smoking cigs when I'm on the internet. ACK! I had to step away until I could nip that.

Alice, if ROTK posters help with morale, then I'm all for them! I'll wait for nekkid Depp. wink

You stated that your food tastes better. That has NEVER changed for me. Food tastes no different to me if I'm smoking or not. Isn't that strange?

post #45 of 70
Thanks for this, Kathy. It's a great help.

After being in an absolutely fucking horrendous mood yesterday, I don't feel bad today. And the craving hasn't arrived today.

And loud music helps.
post #46 of 70
Typically, I now have writer's fucking block.

post #47 of 70
Yeah, I'm not missing them this morning at all so far. I'm pretty busy at work, that helps.

Last time I gave up, I moved all of my stuff and installed it in my new place, and everything had this *smell* of stale smoke from my old flat, even though it had been in storage for months. And it was *horrible*, and took weeks to completely go.

And I wasn't smelling it at the time, because I was smoking.

I must say though, I'm not watching my diet at all this week, just eating what I want, and what I want is lots of biscuits and cookies and pizza and root beer. It's too much to take both on at the same time.

Friday, I'm going to have to pick up my diet again, but until then, I shall feast on carbs.
post #48 of 70
Quote:
Fett:
Typically, I know have writer's fucking block.
Can you take a step back from it mate?
Is there anything else you could be doing that could get you away from whatever it is that your writing?
Have you got any DVD/Games that need reviewing maybe?
post #49 of 70
Reviewing games is what I'm trying to do right now, and I just can't do it.

GRR.
post #50 of 70
Quote:
Fett:
Reviewing games is what I'm trying to do right now, and I just can't do it.

GRR.
Oh crap, sorry pal.
What about some aversion therapy?
Just get Dan to wander past your desk every now and then and slap you round the head.
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