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post #1 of 35
9/22/03 at 11:25am
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This is my favorite bit of nonsense speak that I have only ever seen on message boards. I guess teachers see this in essays sometimes.

It's "for all intents and purposes."
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post #2 of 35
9/22/03 at 11:26am
Not as classic as "he could of done..."

*edited because I'm almost an idiot...twice.*

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post #3 of 35
9/22/03 at 11:27am
Cool. I'm an English criminal.
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post #4 of 35
9/22/03 at 11:28am
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Straxboy Loves Cans-ada:
Not as classic as "he could of done..."

*edited because I'm almost an idiot...twice.*
I just thought you were talking Northern...
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post #5 of 35
9/22/03 at 11:41am
Devin, between this and your "Does anybody REALLY spit soda on their monitor?" post, you're a shoe-in for Andy Rooney's spot when he leaves "60 Minutes".
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post #6 of 35
9/22/03 at 11:58am
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Sorry, I'll quit being intelligent.
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post #7 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:20pm
Don't take anything for granite.
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post #8 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:20pm
I think you misspelled that last word, it's a-r-r-o-g-a-n-t.
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post #9 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:24pm
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Capt. Eucalyptus (Devout Slaterian):
I think you misspelled that last word, it's a-r-r-o-g-a-n-t.
That doesn't look at all like granite. Are you sure?
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post #10 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:25pm
Ok, maybe I am not reading your post correctly, but Devin are you bitching about people using "for all intents and purposes"?
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post #11 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:28pm
Nope. He's complaining about people who mean that, but type for all intensive purposes.

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post #12 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:33pm
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A-Pathetic:
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Capt. Eucalyptus (Devout Slaterian):
I think you misspelled that last word, it's a-r-r-o-g-a-n-t.
That doesn't look at all like granite. Are you sure?
O weight, your write granite is spellt s-t-u-p-i-d.
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post #13 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:44pm
Being a former English Graduate Assistant who had to teach both Freshman and Junior English, I have a common and annoying-to-non-grammarians pet peeve:

"It's" == "IT IS"
"Its" == "BELONGING TO IT"

And much as I love the Corner and Chud, this never gets corrected.

Also,

"A PERSON (singlular) CAN ALWAYS FIND A MOVIE TO THEIR (plural) TASTES." And this is even in mainstream journalism now. Is it so hard to say "his" or "her"? I know they want to avoid sexism, but couldn't you do that correctly by saying, "People can always find a movie to suit their tastes" ? See how easy that was? See? ...

Okay. I'll go back to the rest home now...
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post #14 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:45pm
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Sammy Jankis, hurricane survivor:
Nope. He's complaining about people who mean that, but type for all intesive purposes.
I'd also like to add that I have never seen that done. Ever.
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post #15 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:46pm
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Who gives a shit what you've seen?
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post #16 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:48pm
Now my interest is peaked.
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post #17 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:49pm
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Devin vs Major Frank Burns:
Who gives a shit what you've seen?
You took the words right out of my mouth, Mr. Rooney.
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post #18 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:50pm
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BobClark:
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Sammy Jankis, hurricane survivor:
Nope. He's complaining about people who mean that, but type for all intesive purposes.
I'd also like to add that I have never seen that done. Ever.
Yep, that's why I was confused.

As for the his/her vs their stuff, until the english language invents a non-gendered third-person singular I get to use their.
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post #19 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:51pm
I did it today. My bad.
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post #20 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:53pm
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Beer Die sleeps on parkbench:

As for the his/her vs their stuff, until the english language invents a non-gendered third-person singular I get to use their.
I don't mind if you use the third person plural possessive. Just use the third person plural pronoun as well.

Everyone has his pet peeve in the English language. People still need to improve their knowledge of the rules. wink
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post #21 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:56pm
Charles, I hope your ashamed of you'reself.
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post #22 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:56pm
Fortunately, curmudgeonry remains easy to spell.
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post #23 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:57pm
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Slater:
Fortunately, curmudgeonry remains easy to spell.
Irregardless, you know I'm right.
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post #24 of 35
9/22/03 at 12:58pm
Of that, or enjoying Underworld?
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post #25 of 35
9/22/03 at 1:01pm
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Fett:
Of that, or enjoying Underworld?
You're so busted, dude.
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post #26 of 35
9/22/03 at 1:53pm
I'm only exposed to my pet peeve in spoken language. I like to imagine the people that commit this faux pas still sound out all their words, letter by letter.

The "t" in often is SILENT!

"I ofTen like to pronounce the "t" in ofTen because it makes me sound so-pah-hsticated."

"Excuse me could you hand me that kuhnife? How about that Handkerchief? Would you like some rasp berries?"
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post #27 of 35
9/22/03 at 2:20pm
Are we still allowed to use 'Cromulent' as a verb?
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post #28 of 35
9/22/03 at 2:31pm
Cromulent is an adjective. In noun form its Cromulation. In Verb form it's Cromulating.
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post #29 of 35
9/22/03 at 2:32pm
As in, "Once I get embiggened, we're going to do some cromulating."
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post #30 of 35
9/22/03 at 2:49pm
i could care less about this thread.
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post #31 of 35
9/22/03 at 2:51pm
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Adverb:
I'm only exposed to my pet peeve in spoken language. I like to imagine the people that commit this faux pas still sound out all their words, letter by letter.

The "t" in often is SILENT!

"I ofTen like to pronounce the "t" in ofTen because it makes me sound so-pah-hsticated."

"Excuse me could you hand me that kuhnife? How about that Handkerchief? Would you like some rasp berries?"
Usage Note: During the 15th century English experienced a widespread loss of certain consonant sounds within consonant clusters, as the (d) in handsome and handkerchief, the (p) in consumption and raspberry, and the (t) in chestnut and often. In this way the consonant clusters were simplified and made easier to articulate. With the rise of public education and literacy and, consequently, people's awareness of spelling in the 19th century, sounds that had become silent sometimes were restored, as is the case with the t in often, which is now frequently pronounced. In other similar words, such as soften and listen, the t generally remains silent.
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post #32 of 35
9/22/03 at 3:22pm
If these people are to be believed, correct diction and spelling doesn't seem to matter anyway...
<a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13435313_method=full_siteid=50143 _headline=-BIRAN%2DSCRAMLBER-name_page.html" target="_blank">Source: The Daily Mirror - 22nd Sept 2003</a>

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Aoccdrnig to rscheear at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer are in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by isletf but the wrod as a wlohe and the biran fguiers it out.

IT may look like gobbledygook but on closer inspection to the message above challenges the way we read and think about language.

This latest cult email to be sweeping the internet explains that even if the letters of a word are scrambled, the brain can make sense of it.

As long as the first and last letters of the word are in the right place, the message is still easy to understand for any reader.

Language experts say this is because we can recognise words from their shape alone.

We do not actually need the remaining letters at all, particularly if it is a text that we are already familiar with. Language and reading expert Dr Rosaleen McCarthy was stunned by the message.

She said: "I was very surprised at how readable the email was. I knew something like that could be understood in some way but I was shocked by how clear it was. I wouldn't have predicted it."

The lecturer in neuro-psychology at Cambridge University added: "There has been a school of thought that said we read words letter by letter but that clearly isn't the case. The brain has a visual word form system that allows it to practice pattern recognition - reading the word from its shape.

"It helps if the material is something you are already familiar with but even then it shows a level of organisation in the brain far more sophisticated than we thought.

"This is one of the reasons we find it so hard to proof-read our own work - when we see our own words we recognise them as correctly spelled when there could be letters out of place. The whole thing is fascinating." To test the theory we've scrambled some famous examples of English at work to see if you can still make sense of them.

We have taken quotes from Shakespeare, the National Anthem, and two of the most famous speeches in political history from Winston Churchill and Martin Luther King Jr, and given them the same treatment by jumbling up the letters and reprinting them for you to enjoy.

We sahll fghit on the bhaeces, we salhl fgiht on the ldainng gurnods,
We slahl fgiht in the felids, and in the seetrts,
We sahll nveer serunredr
- CURHCHILL

If msiuc be the food of lvoe, paly on;
Gvie me eesxcs of it, taht, surinfeitg,
The atpiptee may seckin, and so die
-SHAEKSEAPRE TWELFTH NIGHT

God svae our gaiocrus Qeeun,
Lnog lvie our nlboe Qeuen,
God svae the Qeeun.
Sned her viouictros,
Hpapy and Goriluos
Lnog to rgien oevr us
-NATNAIOL ATNHEM

I hvae a deram taht my fuor cdrehiln wlil one day lvie in a noiatn wrehe tehy wlil not be jegudd by the cluoor of tiher sikn...
- MAIRTN LHUTER KNIG

By Claire Donnelly
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post #33 of 35
9/22/03 at 3:35pm
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Originally posted by Andre 'Panda Bear' Dellamorte
Cromulent is an adjective. In noun form its Cromulation. In Verb form it's Cromulating.

As in, "Once I get embiggened, we're going to do some cromulating."
My bad...

HEY WAIT! Embiggen isn't even a cromulant word!
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post #34 of 35
9/22/03 at 6:45pm
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AgentOrange: fin-de-siècle decadent

Language experts say this is because we can recognise words from their shape alone.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS ALL CAPS POSTS ARE FROWNED UPON!
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post #35 of 35
9/22/03 at 6:54pm
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SuxorCorp™:
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AgentOrange: fin-de-siècle decadent

Language experts say this is because we can recognise words from their shape alone.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS ALL CAPS POSTS ARE FROWNED UPON!
Indeed, I despise cell-phone TXTers. My own thumbs go into agonizing spasm whenever I attempt to send a message that is in excess of ten words.

Curse these teenagers with their flexible and tireless joints!
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