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post #51 of 749
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Ah so its alright if I think Korea has birthed some of the most incredible looking women right?
Normally I'd agree but I don't know what roughly 80% of Korean actresses/starlets actually looked like before they cut themselves up.

Plastic surgery runs rampant in that industry to a degree that'll put Hollywood to shame. The real sad part is that most of them looked just fine without it. A little off the chin here, a slight bridge on the nose there, etc.

Yun Jin Kim (Shiri) actually graduated from that NY school of arts from Fame. She's got a new flick out in Korea called Deep Loves (about marrital infidelity) where she looks just absolutely smoking. Don't know if that's her real face.

Sung Hee Lee - Good boob job. Not an actress.

Never heard of Natasha Yi.
post #52 of 749
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Yi happens to be an import model. She was in a brief scene(bath house) in Rush Hour 2 (another boob job)

But I can honestly say that many of the Korean girls I grew up with(seems the Valley had a lot of them) were in one way or another stunning. Heh in fact that was the crowd I pretty much only hung out around.....I was one of those white guys you always see in High School that hung around a whole group not of his color.

Is that pic even worth it (Deep Loves?)

It is a shame when women resort to such thing especially when they are stunning beforehand.

I suppose that has been running rampant everywhere now. A shame.

Hmmm I always though Sung Hi Lee was pretty much small chested...she get work done recently?
post #53 of 749
Korean Valley girls, you say? Guilty! No matter what story they tell you

Kidding aside, I'd say a majority of the Korean sisters I'd met over the years have had some sort of work done. Except for my wife, who's a natural beauty.

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Is that pic even worth it (Deep Loves?)
Dunno what the final verdict is but that trailer was pretty hot.
post #54 of 749
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Although one of the most flithiest mouthed, in desperate need of anger management chicks I have ever seen was a Korean.

Totally caught me off guard when I met her.

Best teacher i ever had was korean. used to make fun of the way they talked.

never can tell if they are mad or not at each other when they talk he used to say.
post #55 of 749
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Just managed to catch the first 6 minutes or so of 2009 Lost Memories but already i can tell this movie has Shiri beat and that is saying something.

Sorry to post about 6 minutes of film but I am enthusiastic...

Oh Khitch are you going to catch FullTime Killer at the American Cinematheque? 8 tomorrow night....the writer is going to be there to introduce the film and take questions if I am right.
post #56 of 749
If there is one thing that I gathered about you from reading your posts on the boards, CT, is that you have no shortage of genuine enthusiasm.

Great to hear that you're finding Lost Memories (so far) to be as fun as I did. Did you get this from Music Plaza or did you order it online? Lead actor Jang Dong Gun (Masayuki) is also excellent in Friend, if you're so compelled to seek his other works.

Funny thing, I saw him and Shin Hyun Jun (Guns & Talks, Bichunmoo) standing behind us in line at LAX for our flight to Korea. It turns out they were in town for the premiere of The Truth About Charlie (co-starring Korean actor Joon Hoon Park). Living in LA has its perks, it's true.

Not gonna make the Fulltime Killer screening, as I've seen it enough times on DVD, and I'm not too excited about hearing what Joey O'Brien has to say. But please do share your thoughts should you go.
post #57 of 749
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Heh just got done and....wow.

You'd think some things including the ending would come off corny or just ridiculous but somehow it remains an emotional impact.

Incredibly stylized unlike any film I have really yet seen. Masayuki Sakamoto was totally channeling some Chow yun Fat in there along with the look itself as well. incredible how much he does look like Yun Fat.

I was not disappointed and this was worth buying...just have to wait until I understand Korean for the 2 disc. That might take awhile though...gotta learn Spanish then French first

Anyways Khitch, Davis and whomever else who recommended this big thanks go out.

I really am becoming besotted with Asian filmmaking. It is a shame we can't come up with something so fresh looking here in America.

I wonder how Equilibrium will look in comparison.

Oh and the bamboo forest scene was incredible. just wish there had been more to it then what ther was.

Two thubs up along with some toes.
post #58 of 749
glad you dug 2009, CT. i actually enjoyed it more the second time. that opening shames most US action flicks for pure destruction.

oh and Khitch, pro-scan definitely makes a difference, especially on a RPTV (that's what i have too). it won't help on a lot of the HK discs that are non-anamorphic (they seem to be more concerned with sound, as DTS tracks are far more common with Asian discs), but your PAL DVDs will look a lot better

and the UK Hong Kong Legends DVDs are worth every penny. the Game of Death set rocks, and there's no other way to get the unedited version of Drive
post #59 of 749
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Yea Dave that opening few minutes had more energy then most flicks today.

And then for some reason the timeline sequence was incredible and was able to really gear you up for what follows in the film.

Just wish I could understand the second disc frown
post #60 of 749
Thanks, Dave. It appears I may have to upgrade to a Malata after all to take advantage of the pro-scan features then. Maybe after my next paycheck clears or until my region-free Dingtian breaks down, whichever comes first.

CT, I was actually lucky enough to catch this in Seoul way back in February. Most of the audience were either scratching their heads or groaning when they introduced that time travel twist so late in the pic but I found it refreshing and elevated this type of genre flick to a whole new, almost gonzo level.

Ultimately, the movie failed to find a big enough audience within its native country due to the premise (a future where Korea has been completely colonized by Japan due to the failed assassination of a key political figure at the start of the pic) turning off a lot of nationalists and older citizens who still harbor anti-Japanese sentiments.

They failed to see that ultimately it's a very nationalistic and patriotic flick, about a man fighting to preserve his heritage and country, even if the cost means the sacrifice of everything he once held dear (friends, career, his own sense of personal identity).

Love this movie lots.
post #61 of 749
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What is interesting is that it was almost difficult who to sympathize with at one point in the flick.

Though thinking back I think that helped you empathize with the main character more.

Any particular scenes stand out for you Khitch or Dave?
post #62 of 749
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Double posting...

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- The opening seige at the Museum holding the Inoue Exhibition and the raid by the JBI forces.

- The underground battle between the Fureisenjin rebels and JBI forces.

- The dual explanation of altered history to both lead actors by their respective superiors

- The intercutting of the raid and the Japanese Matsuri (festival)

- Bamboo forest confrontation

- Saigo's death scene (very reminiscent of Shiri's final bulletshot. Shiri interestingly was a huge hit in Japan and possibly influenced actor Toru Nakamura to take this part)

Too many other good moments to mention.
post #64 of 749
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Ah yes that final standoff was something was it.

Made the lead actor look incredibly smart to shoot the other guy first.

May I remind people who read this this thread is full of spoilers...

Oh and Khitch was this mostly in Japanese or was it actually Korean....gai-jin wants to know...

Also I was wondering if any of the Japanese would call the Koreans garlic-eaters....(incredible the hate between China, Japan, and Korea no?)
post #65 of 749
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And Korean and Japanese sound so much less harsh then Manchurian.....watched the Hero trailer again it was interesting how much I could tell the difference.
post #66 of 749
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Oh and Khitch was this mostly in Japanese or was it actually Korean....gai-jin wants to know...

Also I was wondering if any of the Japanese would call the Koreans garlic-eaters....(incredible the hate between China, Japan, and Korea no?)
Mostly Japanese except for Masayuki's conversation with his dad's friend in his apartment and all dialogue between Masayuki and the Korean rebels.

The hate between Korea, Japan, and China is too deeply rooted in WW2 and the periods of Japanese military occupation of Korea, China, and parts of Russia. I think you'd hate them too if they had systematically slaughtered your ancestors and for the longest period of time, deny any wrongdoing or responsiblity.

The anti-Korean and Chinese feelings on Japan's part is more a Japanese superiority complex, and is explained in more detail in Go, an excellent Japanese teen angst drama about a Zainichi (2nd Gen Korean living in Japan) teen struggling to find his identity in a xenophobic society.
post #67 of 749
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And Korean and Japanese sound so much less harsh then Manchurian.....watched the Hero trailer again it was interesting how much I could tell the difference.
Mandarin, not Manchurian.
post #68 of 749
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And Korean and Japanese sound so much less harsh then Manchurian.....watched the Hero trailer again it was interesting how much I could tell the difference.
Mandarin, not Manchurian.
My fault...shoulda known.
post #69 of 749
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My fault...shoulda known.
Common mistake, as I've heard someone ask for a Mandarin Candidate on VHS once. No shit.

So, you going to that screening of Fulltime Killer at the Egyptian tonight? Tell me how it turned out.
post #70 of 749
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Yes i am...leaving in about 15 minutes...hopefully it wont be sold out by the time I get there.
post #71 of 749
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Oh and I saw Tokyo Raiders today at BB but didn't buy till I got some feed back here...

Is it worth it and do I want to buy from BB rather then online?

Just in case it is butchered and all you know.
post #72 of 749
I bought Tokyo Raiders not long ago, I bought it from a music store and couldn't believe my luck(HK Movies aren't sold in retail stores where I live so i picked it up while I could). Just my luck it has Ekin Cheng in it, which is never a good incentive but it also has Tony Leung Chiu Wai.
The story is very confusing, the less said about Ekin(He plays an eight time Wushu champ, Jet Li better watch himself) the better. The fight scenes are well choreographed and Tony holds his own, even Ekin, I have to say, managed to look good and the film was very nice to look at, courtesy of Jingle Ma but in the end, unless you're a Tony Leung or Ekin Cheng fan it's not worth purchasing, maybe worth a rental but I wouldn't advise buying it online.
post #73 of 749
TR also has Toru Nakamura (Saigo from Lost Memories) in it for all of 10 minutes, I think.

Very light, disposable entertainment I thought, with an Ekin performance that is less painful than most due to Kelly Chen also providing some additional snooze factor.

Tony Leung Chiu Wai gets to cut loose from his stuffy WKW roles and it's kinda refreshing to see him ride a scooter, do kung fu, & just generally act goofy.

Nowhere near a must see, but if you can get it cheap I wouldn't advise you NOT to pick it up.
post #74 of 749
As much as of the Tony fan that I am, I can NOT stand TR.

If you can find it for cheap, it is worth it for one scene only.
post #75 of 749
Which scene, Tony?

And the Columbia Tristar DVD at BB should do the trick, but I wouldn't pay $14.99 for it. Wait for Black Friday.
post #76 of 749
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Fulltime Killer wasn't half bad.

In fact my friend and I really enjoyed it.

Kinda like Snatch HK style.

You could tell an American had a hand in it.

And the writer barely said anything.

If I had actually gotten to interview him like I should have I dont know what I would have done with him.

Ah well.

More thoughts later.
post #77 of 749
Glad you enjoyed it CT. How was the crowd turnout? Were others in the audience as receptive as you and your friend were?

I thought the movie was entertaining, but I admit I was a little disappointed as it had all the potential to be a classic HK hitman film but kinda fell short, in the story and action department. Still better than most action exercises though.
post #78 of 749
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Glad you enjoyed it CT. How was the crowd turnout? Were others in the audience as receptive as you and your friend were?

I thought the movie was entertaining, but I admit I was a little disappointed as it had all the potential to be a classic HK hitman film but kinda fell short, in the story and action department. Still better than most action exercises though.
Yes indeed they were my friend...though they laughed at perhaps too many things in the film all the same it seemed like a good vibe coming from the crowd. In fact I don't recall a negative reaction at all really. Heh it has also been awhile since I was in a theatre where the audience clapped at the correct respectful times. Good sign.

I'd have to say the turnout was something like 450-500 people....616 seatingh theater that ain't half bad.

The writer though....ugh! wink
post #79 of 749
Shit, that's quite a turnout. Spectacular, even. Never been to the Egyptian in all my years in LA. Maybe I should plan a trip soon. I just hope I can quarrantine myself from the usual militant arthouse crowds. They'd be a colorfully wacky bunch if they weren't so fricking annoying.
post #80 of 749
As per contractual agreement:

"Full Time Killer is good, but it's director Johnnie To did a great film called The Mission with Lam Suet and Simon Yam that is about 1000000000000 times better. It's one of my favorite films of all time."

Whew. Got that out.
post #81 of 749
Yup, now that film would've got my ass to leave the house and brave the scary crowds.

Good Lord, what I wouldn't give for a remastered Anamorphic DVD of that classic.
post #82 of 749
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Shit, that's quite a turnout. Spectacular, even. Never been to the Egyptian in all my years in LA. Maybe I should plan a trip soon. I just hope I can quarrantine myself from the usual militant arthouse crowds. They'd be a colorfully wacky bunch if they weren't so fricking annoying.
Wasn't all that bad but you could tell it was an Arthouse crowd.
post #83 of 749
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As per contractual agreement:

"Full Time Killer is good, but it's director Johnnie To did a great film called The Mission with Lam Suet and Simon Yam that is about 1000000000000 times better. It's one of my favorite films of all time."

Whew. Got that out.
Hmmm...well I'll admit Fulltime Killer isn't the greatest movie but I think it was the humor that had me in stiches which made the movie so enjoyable for me.

I'll have to check out the Mission one day then.
post #84 of 749
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CTDeLude:
Hmmm...well I'll admit Fulltime Killer isn't the greatest movie but I think it was the humor that had me in stiches which made the movie so enjoyable for me.
Unintentional humor, no doubt. But then again, maybe that was the intention. You can never tell with these Johnnie To comedies.
post #85 of 749
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Hmmm...well I'll admit Fulltime Killer isn't the greatest movie but I think it was the humor that had me in stiches which made the movie so enjoyable for me.
Unintentional humor, no doubt. But then again, maybe that was the intention. You can never tell with these Johnnie To comedies.
I dont really think it was unintentional.

I keep saying in my mind that you could tell a white boy had a hand in writing this.

Snatch HK style.

Is The Mission much the same?
post #86 of 749
No, it is the ultimate Mercs hired on a job who become buddies movie. There is comedy, but it is the perfect action film.
post #87 of 749
CT, I'll tell you all the parts that I cracked up at during FTK, most of it unintentional (I think) :

- Takashi Sorimachi pronouncing "Fulltime Killer" in English (Why?).

- Andy's English ("This is shit money!", etc.)

- Lam Suet's English (used to much better, intentional comic effect in To's Needing You)

- Identical flashback to Tok and his brother's seizures during the Olympics (just the way it was handled). Maybe it's the recurring theme where Andy always has to suffer from some sort of life-threatening disease or ailment in almost all his movies.

- That cheesy love ballad when O reminisces about his murdered housekeeper. Which pops up again inside the Indian target's car, momentarily distracting O.

- Simon Yam jumping and firing during the raid on O's apartment (Yeah you look cool, Simon!).

- Post-traumatic Simon acting his heart out. "So... Tok killed O?", "Without an ending... I'm writing a book without an ending...". Beer bottle to the head. Simon looking not the least bit bothered by this.

I dunno, maybe I was a bit disappointed after To's more stellar The Mission, Running Out of Time, and A Hero Never Dies. I still enjoy the movie lots, just not as much as his other, more worthwhile (imo) works.
post #88 of 749
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Ah I see what you mean.

I think there is where I thought people were laughing at the wrong moments.

For me even then that was something that didn't bother me. I don't know if this is a fad I'm going through but the unbelievable isn't bothering so much as of late. 2009 Lost Memories for example.

But some of those things were funny. especially the English speaking part.

Oh and I didn't find the main woman as attractive as the Interpol cop. Loved the Australian accent too. Who was she?
post #89 of 749
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Oh and I didn't find the main woman as attractive as the Interpol cop. Loved the Australian accent too. Who was she?
Cherrie Ying, I think this was her debut.

I'd take Kelly Lin (the lead actress) over most of her HK contemporaries though. Cute face, not too annoying, and there just aren't enough mainstream HK starlets out there who can fill their bikinis.
post #90 of 749
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Andre Dellamorte:
No, it is the ultimate Mercs hired on a job who become buddies movie.
and will henceforth be shattered by a superfluous US remake.
post #91 of 749
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Bulletproof Khitcher:
- Simon Yam jumping and firing during the raid on O's apartment (Yeah you look cool, Simon!).

- Post-traumatic Simon acting his heart out. "So... Tok killed O?", "Without an ending... I'm writing a book without an ending...". Beer bottle to the head. Simon looking not the least bit bothered by this.
Simon Yam can do no wrong.

well, maybe that whole Tomb Raider 2 thing.
post #92 of 749
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Simon Yam can do no wrong.

well, maybe that whole Tomb Raider 2 thing.
It goes without saying that I truly love the man, Dave. His involvement in TR2 is what catapulted its status from Will See to Must See and Own for me.

I watched TR over the weekend again. I think the lack of a truly tasty villain is what hurt part 1 the most. Simon should take care of that problem, no question.
post #93 of 749
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Is Butterfly and Sword any good?

And which of the Swordsman trilogy should I try and get?
post #94 of 749
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And Legend of Zu is one crazy movie.
post #95 of 749
but not necessarily a good one...
post #96 of 749
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but not necessarily a good one...
Heh yea plot is kinda hard to grasp and seems like dialouge is missing everywhere.....and it was just "glorious" to see the the brothers were also Exec Producers.

Visuals are quite nice and interesting to look at.
post #97 of 749
The HK produced Swordsman trilogy?

I liked Swordsman II the best, for the Jet factor.

Part 3, aka The East Is Red, which has Yu Rong Guang (Iron Monkey) and Joey Wong (Chinese Ghost Story series) in it, is ultimately too bloated and disjointed, although it has its moments as well.

Haven't seen Part 1 which stars Sam Hui (Aces Go Places) but have heard positive things about it.

Still haven't been able to sit thru the entirety of Legend of Zu.
post #98 of 749
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I got 3/4 the way through it but then Seahawk decide to IM me and through off my entire viewing experience....

so nothing on Butterfly and Sword?

PS updated the Hero thread some.
post #99 of 749
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so nothing on Butterfly and Sword?

PS updated the Hero thread some.
Afraid not. One of the many that came in below radar.

I did notice the bump in the Hero thread. I just hope you're not setting yourself up for disappointment, CT, given the (seemingly) extremely high expectations you've placed on it wink
post #100 of 749
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Well I can admit I don't have extremely high expectations for this movie(even though it appears that way) I am looking forward to it being a good movie but right now I am trying to get people aware of the movie. Seems CHUD will go ga-ga over some cool sounding American movies yet remain out to lunch still on cool sounding Asian films. I mean after reading the attention to detail that they pulled for this movie(don't know if they are digital grading)

More in a sec...they're putting a printer here right now.
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