So is LUMIERE a myth, or what?

You are not alone gren.

I would gladly trade stories with you as I have don with Wickerman and Blofeld. That way at least someone is reading/commenting on your stuff.

May I point you gentleman to the latter half of <a href="http://chud.nexcess.net/board/ubbhtml/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=67;t=000036" target="_blank">http://chud.nexcess.net/board/ubbhtml/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=67;t=000036</a>

Due to Nick's apparent lack of time for us, Hastur is seeking other space to host the stories until Nick DOES have time for us.

Please also bear in mind that Hastur has a job where she works more than 40 hours a week; editing is hobby, not a full time job. She's still sloughing through some of the stories (although I believe the majority are done). This shouldn't be taken as a sign of future delay, however...these little stories, put together, are a rathyer large volume of work since most people sent in several. My guess is she has more to go through than if each person had simply submitted a 2k word story.

Question: Would you prefer each author got their stories posted on their own thread on these boards (keeps the comments releative to the authors), rather than us waiting on another site?

I haven't had a chance to read it yet. You don't want to know why.
I also can't speak for her since she's going to be the one editing it. However, since you're joining us late you probably missed the fact that Voltes has sent her more stories than she has fingers, and since you were the last story she got, and last I heard, she was still wading through his stories, there's a reason you haven't gotten a response yet.
You guys do realize the average wait time to hear back on a short story in print media is 4-6mnths, right? wink

Having had a chance to read it (ironically, at work is the first chance I've had), I must say that it is a very...level... story. I figure.

It's also very good, and chocked full of references to landmarks and events, just like we wanted. However, due to the size, I'm not sure what Hastur's going to do with it. (Can't ask her, I'm at work)

Hey Coyote, not trying to dis anyone. I was just showing Grendel a little love. I am impatient by nature and working on that. wink I wish I could help host it. I would prefer that we just wait rather than posting them in threads. But I like swapping stories around. Tres cool. Grendel I will be reading yours this morning and let you know what I think.

And as I am not published yet I was not aware of this.

There's a whole slew going up today. We've been really swamped, fellas.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nick Nunziata:

"There's a whole slew going up today. "

Music to my ears. I think I'll throw on another pot of coffee.

We know you are Nick and we really appreciate your hard work and patience with our gripes!!

You mention the word "level" like 6 times in two sentences, Grendel wink

Now, as for Nick's comment above...I have no idea why that comment is under "So is LUMIERE a myth, or what?" since the four stories that went up are not Lumiere stories, and I just checked with Hastur....he hasn't contacted her yet. She never even saw those stories, so there's now a question of what she's chief editor of.

I thionk it was a play on your story's subject matter. The park is "level" but not really.

If she is chief editor of Chudstories, this whole thing is still Nick's baby. He can put up stories cause he's the publisher. I thought she was just in charge of editing Lumiere but wouldn't be surprised to find out I'm wrong. Hastur has edited my Lumiere story and so I know she's at least got that far. Patience dude patience.

If part of the issue is submission format, perhaps if we writers new the format desired, we could submit them to Claudia in that format ...

Scott, if you follow the threads, you'll see just how patient everyone's been. This isn;t the first time Nick's gone in and told somebody to do something, then inserted stuff in without a Howyado, and Sci-Fighter had their own thing going that got usurped by CHUDStories. I've spent months telling people their stories are coming only to have Nick delay publication repeatedly when trying to publish them. It makes me look like an idiot, because he won't fucking talk to us, and I'm fucking tired of it.
I prefer to treat my people with the respect and trust, not an afterthought. Nick asked for our help, and when we tried to do what he asked, we hit a wall.
Repeatedly.
This isn't a matter of a few days, it's a cummulative matter of months, added to some fairly shoddy treatment in the past that I've always chalked up to Nick being busy. I'm pissed, I'm tired of it, and the only reason I haven't quit is because the talented folks who have worked to do something over here don't deserved to be given up on.
Hence the attempt to find a site to temporaily host the stories until Nick finds the time, fires us, or the authors here have a palace revolt and letterbomb him into seeing how frustrated they are and would he PLEASE call Hastur and fucking talk to her, or at least respond to her email as to which of the formats she submitted actually work for him.
"If part of the issue is submission format, perhaps if we writers new the format desired, we could submit them to Claudia in that format ..."
The problem is that we can't find out from HIM what is it. He's always said "MS Word," but since that's what the stories were sent to him as, and he said he had to seriously reformat "Let Him Dangle," there may be a version inconsistancey. Hastur sent some to him a while back in an older version of Word (several different copies in different formats, including .rtf), and hasn't gotten a peep from him...and said story was never published.

I've been getting pissed about this on almost a daily basis for a few weeks, now. And this is the first time I've sworn on the boards in ages, so I think I've been fairly fucking patient.*

*Scott, I'm not pissed at you. It's really hard to piss me off. Only two people on these boards have managed to, despite all the stuff that's flown around. And Will and I have been fine for quite a long time, now.

As far as Hastur's Editing hat, when we were IMing him through my computer, and were discussing the site, NIck had said "She's in charge." His words. Lumiere wasn't even called that yet, hadn't even been suggested as a name, but the project had been broached during the conversation as site material....although not AT that point, so if he soley meant the Lumiere stories were what she was in charge of, it was a comment that came out of left field, since we were specifically talking about the site itself.
Now, she's edited almost all the stories (maybe all, at this point, she was working on the last of them when I called her asking if she knew Nick had updated the site with more stories), but the only thing that's made it up on the site are one Lumiere and one interview, with the new stories never even having been sent to her, so she doesn't know what the hell's going on. (Hell, there's still BackSpace Cyberpunk stories from Sci-Fighter that haven't made it up, yet, sent in before the Lumiere stories. Those authors are dangling in the wind.) This doesn't mean the stories didn't get edited, they may have gone through JB or whatever, which may be the proper chain of command or whathaveyou...it's just not what Nick told us, hence the confusion. Fot all I know, Nick's expecting JB to stay in control of Creature Features, me to stay in control of BackSpace, and hastur to control the rest, but since not a word of that has passed his lips in our direction....

I'm still not understanding how the main news page can be updated numerous times a day while CHUDStories languishes like left-over Episode I merchandise. Isn't the same basic procedure used to update the news used to post the stories? How hard can it be to get these stories up? With all the new traffic coming here thanks to Nick's increaded exposure, I would think he would want CHUDStories and the Fighter to be updated as often as possible so that someone doesn't surf in here and see sections that haven't been updated in weeks. And I find it kind of ironic that Nick urges us to comment on his news articles when there are dozens of our stories apparently sitting around waiting to see the light of day. If CHUDStories is truly "a place of ideas," as he puts it, let's get the ideas up there already.

And this isn't to slag Nick or anything. I mean, but for the grace of him go we. But if the people who are supposed to be editing and putting up these stories are frustrated, imagine how it is for the writers.

No sweat Coyote. I have a thicker skin than that. I understand both frustration, anger and the need to vent. I want my stories (well story actually since my body horror piece was posted) posted too.

To Nick (should you read this) please let go of the reins a bit. A good commander in chief knows when to delegate.

Gren, you came in late in this, so you don't know....this was going on LONG before his trip. The trip is even mentioned in the other thread when people were wondering when the stories were going to get posted...I mentioned that the trip would delay it at least a week, possibly longer.
Yeah, so we're in that time period, so what?
Well, A) We were already at a bursting point before the trip, from lack of contact from him.
B) He had time to post the horror stories (I'm obviously NOT faulting him for getting material UP, although we're now confused about the process because they weren't processed the way we thought they were going to be from previous discussions...and those discussions took a week of him telling us he was going to call us later in the week), but not enough time to drop us an email or any form of communication saying simply "Go with this format"...or any com at all. On the extreme other end of the scale, we have Rath & everyone else chomping at the bit, and Blofeld, who always has a joke ready and is hardly every negative, losing his sense of humour and posting fatalistic comments on never getting to see the stories...that should tell you something about the frustration levels, and how long this has been going on.
To add further confusion to the whole thing, Nick has actually hunted me down when I've left CHUD twice in past (once over a fight with another board member, once because I had just stopped posting and wandered away). He's made it clear that way that he wants me here, but whenever I try to work on a continuing project for him, I feel like a redheaded step child. And now I'm watching the same thing happen to Hastur and everyone else working on this site.
Lumiere was supposed to be something that got kickstarted with one big push (although the due date was only a couple of weeks ago, we've had stories long before that, and Hastur's been trying to get the first batch up for about 6 weeks...or longer), and then run under the momentum of the authors and chroniclers while Hastur focused on another section...which she would rotate. Do Creature Features stories, then Backspace, etc, every few weeks, getting a nice rythym going.
It's kinda run aground here, because there's no communication between the shore and the boat. We've stopped traditional modes of communication at this point and are either looking for another harbor, or for the passageners and crew to start waving their arms like mad in hopes of getting Papa CHUD's attention.
The reason this has become public lately is because we kept HOPING we could get a response before it reached this point. I refuse to keep you guys in the dark any longer.

Edit:
"and those discussions took a week of him telling us he was going to call us later in the week)" should be:
"and those discussions took a MONTH of him telling us he was going to call us later in the week)"