Attack of the Clones DVD

WOW! This thread sure is popular around here. Oh well, here goes. I don't have the DVD yet, but I've seen it projected onto a 100" screen by a Sharp XV-Z9000U DLP projector. There's no ifs, ands, or buts in my opinion. This is the best transfer I've ever seen. Period. Bar none, end of story. The clarity and detail are ridiculous. Blacks are solid and deep. Colors pop off the screen. I can't find a single flaw. Absolutely no grain. This is a grain hater's wet dream. No EE is anywhere to be found. No flaws either, in the form of nicks, scratches, fingerprints, dust, etc. The byproduct of no film being used. Great stuff.

A pity that TPM transfer doesn't come close to this.

There's a much longer thread elsewhere.

Just picked it up an hour ago. Gave it a quick spin, and I have to say it's the best looking DVD I have ever seen. Audio/Visual nirvana! The colors, clarity....the sheer depth of it all. This will sell tons of HT equipment. The demo disc to end all demo discs....bar none.

And the movie ain't too bad either. wink

BTW, Battle Of Geonosis has now become my favorite SW battle....ever. It looks amazing. It's so cool how the scenario is a flip of the Hoth battle. The "good guys" Republic with white troopers trying to stop the "bad guy" rebels from escaping their "secret base".

(Yoda speak)Twisted, this is.

No one could have imagined this kind of storytelling. Lucas is replaying motifs, with a twist, to change the way we look at the films we grew up with. We thought we knew what to expect from the prequels. Nuh uh. Georgie has got a bag full of surprises. There is nothing sweeter in life than Yoda leading "storm troopers" into battle. And Anakin's character arc in one film is as rich and varied as Luke's was in 3 films!

Now on to the supplementary discs!

Anyone else notice how Dooku's costume (underneath the cape) is essentially what becomes the Imperial Officer uniform in the OT?

Nice touch. An example of how many littel unsung treats are packed into this film that we're still just noticing.

Any minute now someone is going to jump in and point out that Lucas was just recycling old ideas

y'know, I'm going to kick myself square in my own ass every single extra day that I have to wait to get this because I was so goddamn cheap that I didn't pay five bucks to get the DVD shipped quicker.

Edit: Just checked my mail, it shipped today. I dedicate this new stain in my jeans to you, Amazon!

The supplementary disc is really cool and works great as a companion to the TPM one. Lucas is really generous showing a "behind the curtain" making of these films. Tons of "fly on the wall" moments throughout. You really feel as if you're hanging out with him and his collaborators. Even though it's not as extensive as the new LOTR disc, I felt I got just as much, if not MORE, quality time in the head-space of a director. High praise indeed.

BTW, Seeing Rena Owen wearing that Taun We hat was great. She IS Taun We. I'm not surprised people have fallen for that alien. wink

Plus, this disc features a "Widow maker" that people will get a kick out of.

CLASSIC.

Eh, I liked the movie a lot, but I'm still holding out on the Star Wars discs. I know, I'm insane. But, I'll be the one laughing when Fox puts out the eventual 6-movie set of all these movies. I liked AOTC and The Phantom Menace... but, I didn't like them enough to double dip... ever. Until then, I have plenty of geek friends who will get this and who already own Episode 1… so I shall continue to borrow them until the ultimate Star Wars package arrives sometime after Episode III hits us on DVD.

Wouldn't matter to me. I'd buy every Star Wars DVD that came out. So, even though I have TPM and AOTC, I'll gladly buy them again when the big box set comes out. Although, Lucas has never indicated there will be a big box set as far as I know. It seems everyone is just assuming there will be one. What happens if there isn't one? You will have waited for nothing.

[quote]Terrell:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh, you're a funny one, you are!

That was my stance as well when Phantom Menace came out on DVD. Then Attack Of The Clones was a load better than I thought it would be, and there was no way I could start my Star Wars DVD collection with Episode II.

Plus, any 6 disc set is going to be at least another three or four years away. I don't really consider that double dipping. I'm buying these now in the knowledge that there'll be a super-duper boxset in 2005 or 2006 - but there's no way I'm waiting that long without having Episodes I and II to hand for when the mood takes.

Heck, I've bought infinitely worse films for flimsier reasons in the past, and still been double-dipped less than a year later.

Especially since there's a good chance that boxset will contain the ARCHIVAL EDITIONS.

There's gotta a reason the DVD didn't include some of the more famous deleted scenes...

Hmmm, do we have confirmation from Lucas on this?

Yes.

Considering they've released a boxset of just Episodes I and II, we can safely assume that they won't pass up the chance to bundle all six films together as soon as they're physically able.

I read or heard somewhere that there will never be DVD releases of the theatrical versions.

I looked at the Phantom Menace extras over the weekend. Great googly-moogly, it was great to see the Luke and Obi-Wan scene in Obi-Wan's hut in widescreen and digitized....

I know he said they won't likely have the original original versions, but he'll have the SEs/Archives Edition in a set in 2005/6.

Two of the best moments on the supplementary disc:

-Frank Oz doing Yoda lines over a satellite feed.

-Leanna Walsman making orgasmic ADR recordings, with Mathew Wood and Lucas giving each other a wink-wink about it.

Where? wink I've never heard him confirm hat he would release a box set of all 6 films. If I was betting I'd say he will, but I've never heard him say it.

Like every time people ask him about the original trilogy, he always says there'll be a six-movie box after Episode III. Just do a search on TFN and you'll probably find a few statements like it.

A collector friend of mine picked up this DVD yesterday and, as promised, I wiped the slate clean and gave a completely fresh opinion of the movie. I was expecting the movie to be at least slightly better on DVD. The DVD experience had done a lot for my opinion of The Phantom Menace.

This time around it had the opposite effect, to my utter disappointment. The look of the film was every bit as nauseatingly garish as I was reluctant to remember. The film is drowned in CGI, and what's worse is Lucas's team throws it all in together without any sort of proper blending or lighting. The result is an oogy mess. Look at a purple lightsabre or a green Jedi master against the scorched red desert of Geonosis for example.

Hayden Christensen is still awful when called upon to whine like a child, the kid who plays Boba Fett is worse than I remembered, and Ewan McGregor's alecguinnessness is emphasized at all the wrong times, and is tiresome this time round. Shmi's death scene is laughable, as is the ensuing slaughter interrupted by a giant PowerPoint wipe.

The thing that gets me about these prequels is how much of a grumpy old PRICK Yoda is. I liked him in small amounts in the old films -- he and his backwards-talking are way too prominent now. Oh and his CGI incarnation still looks crap. He's too squishy, like one of those stress balls you squeeze. And Mike Myers and his fucking Scottish accent would not have been so out of place.

"I slaughtered them like animals! The women and children too!"
"To be angry is to be human."

Never noticed this exchange before. I'm sorry, that is utter cock.

Oh yeah, Threepio Lansbury is now WORSE THAN JAR-JAR. Thanks a whole friggin' lot George.

When the movie ended and switched back to the noisy DVD menu, I said to my friend, "you ever wish for quiet?".

This time just confirms it, The Phantom Menace is much better. This movie is terrible. Two out of five.

If you're going to criticize, maybe you'd want to quote properly, instead of missing out like four lines? The 'anger' line, in my opinion, works a lot better after Hayden's line about being a Jedi and being better than that.

Fett, we need to drop it. It's painfully clear by now that it's not acceptable around here to tweak those who DON'T like the movie.

No, it's clearly unacceptable to not like like the movie. Anyone who doesn't is (a) on a "witch hunt" (b) just trying to Spoil Your Fun (c) just wrong. The holy gospel according to Carl. That's why you keep dismissing discussions like this. But NO, it's someone else who's being obsessive and vindictive.

"So many will learn to eat crow when it comes to AOTC. It's absolutely astounding how far off base some of you are with your criticisms of the film." - Carl Cunningham

Oh it's all very well when we agree on something. Then "Irish folks rule" and all that. I have opinions on Star Wars. I have ideals which I keep holding out for. I'm not the most verbose poster in the world, but occasionally I want to talk about them, and whether or not they are met. I like to THINK while I do so. If you're going to be morose and close-minded from now on, I won't waste time by putting my views into words.

Algar, I "dismiss" discussions like this because when I become involved in the back-and-forth debates I get a lot of shit for it.

I don't know, maybe it IS me. Perhaps I just have a problem with those who would rather dump on things they don't like instead of sticking with what they DO like. Being put on the defensive when you like something is frustrating, believe me.

Trust me, there are MANY films that are popular on here that I don't really care for. But instead of wasting time pounding away at them I'd rather just discuss things I DO like and care about. But, to each his own. I understand there are those who find the contrary debates more engaging. That's why these boards are here.

As for my quote you re-posted... it still stands. Afterall, we are only 6 months removed from the release of the film.

japaneseguitar, glad you have new appreciation for the film with the DVD. When the smoke finally clears, I know you won't be alone.

Anyway, all is cool Algar. No sweat. And, yes... shout out to all us "Irish". We need to stick together. Pass the Guinness...

Trust me, I've been there myself (see <a href="http://chud.nexcess.net/board/ubbhtml/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=31;t=000709" target="_blank"> this</a>). Thing is, even though I disliked (and continue to) THE PHANTOM MENACE and have major issues with the Special Editions and other things I simply don't feel the need to harp on these negative things all the time. I respect those who DO like them and have made a concerted effort to refrain from bitching about it for the most part (though my problems with TPM & the SEs is documented enough). I just chose to move on, wipe the slate clean and let AOTC win me over (which, thankfully it did for the most part).

NOBODY has been as down on "Star Wars" as I was about 1-2 years ago. But now, I've become branded as the quintessential "Lucas Apologist" because I happened to like AOTC. Go figure.

Anyway, it's all good. No biggie.

No, it just seems these people like to beat it in the ground that they think the movie stinks. Over and over again. It's not the negative opinion. It's the constant bashing of this movie. Oh well, doesn't matter any more. I just think of it as your loss. wink

I have a hard time agreeing on that one japanese. People that truly love Star Wars wouldn't dump on it constantly. I also doubt it is painful for them, or they wouldn't do it. Most of them enjoy it because they do it constantly.

I grew up watching Star Wars, and now I'm watching it (in my oh so humble opinion) turn to shit in front of my eyes. Maybe I need therapy, instead I talk on Chud and to anyone within earshot. Maybe it's also because I can't believe what I see being settled for, as I think AotC is simply poor filmmaking and appears to be being excused solely because it comes from Lucas. The success of the PT points out (to me) why films like Scooby Doo, Armageddon and Pearl Harbor were successful, as many people who went to see both Ep.I and II saw it on multiple occassions and didn't like either. So, yeah I want to talk about it.

Another possible angle is that Star Wars is a big, widely-encompassing thing. As a result, more people are going to have an opinion on it than, say, the latest issue of IEEE Spectrum magazine. More opinions mean more NEGATIVE opinions, due to that whole human opinion thing.

I totally understand frustration at really liking something, but yet everywhere you turn is someone talking about how they HATE it.

I also understand how someone COULD hate Episode II, I really do. But this was the movie that made me a SW fan again. And that means that, for whatever reason, I liked the dialogue, the story, the CGI, the nipples, the bright colors, etc. But I'd sure hate to feel the need to face off against every single person that posted a comment abou their dislike of the film... that stuff just eats you up after a while.

People who hate it beat it into the ground just like the people who love it beat it into the ground. It's a movie website & that's what happens.

Hey, everyone likes nipples.

On women!!!!

I haven't really chimed in yet here, so lemme add my two cents.

The AotC DVD is simply stunning. Carl's review is right on the money, as far as I'm concerned. It's unfortunate that so many people don't care for it, but there's no help for that.

WRONG!

I would say worry about your own reasons for not liking it, and stop telling everyone how they feel. I'm not excusing a damn thing because it came from Lucas. I loved AOTC and thought it was a very good movie, not flawless but very good. I certainly don't need you telling me why I liked it.

It always amazes me that bashers don't believe that people can actually like and enjoy this film. We must have some reason for it.

What, did you miss the 31 pages of discussion?

I haven't watched the whole thing yet, and maybe it's because I was looking at it on my computer, but I thought all the special effects shots looked much less realistic than they did in the theater. Too sharp and too much like a cut scene from a video game. Sure they were gorgeous, but I think the film grain makes them look a little more organic.

Man I love this film now more than ever. I just watched it on my computer and it looked damn sharp. Some of the darker scenes were a bit grainy on my monitor but everything that was supposed to look beautiful DID. The transfer was so beautiful just like everyone said.

It's firmly in the top 3 SW films, and when I first saw the film I put it right under Empire. It's probably still there, but i'm not sure.

And try as I might, I can't hate the love story.

Top 3, huh? I don't know...

Definitely in the top 5.

For me, it's number three, behind A New Hope and Empire (naturally).

To be more specific, I think the CGI gets particularly harsh right after Yoda says "if Dooku escapes, rally more systems to his cause he will".

Natalie + DVD zoom = $17.99 well spent

HELP! FUCKING HELP!

I think my DVD is defective, or I am retarded, I cannot find the documentary on sound with Burtt. Where the hell is it?

Disc Two
Dex's Kitchen and Still Galleries
To Dex's Kitchen
"Film's Are Not Released; They Escape"

I swear, even though it may appear to be so, I did not ride the short bus in high school. Damn I am a moron.

Snipped from a review posted on Amazon.com...

System failure due to hyperbolic overload. We're going down...

One wonders if said person has seen a film by Chaplin or Welles. No, they weren't recognized in their lifetime at all. Nor has Lucas (Cough PGA this year Cough).

I love the Star Wars as much as the next guy...but Reed Richards can't even stretch like that.

I might have to disown my son. I shared Attack of the Clones with him last night. His response: "Will Jar Jar be in the next movie? He's a good character..."