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post #1 of 63
Thread Starter 
It really sounds like Superman is going to be a GREAT film. Everytime it looks like its going so badly that it couldn't get any worse they go and move the bar.

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post #2 of 63
"This is that thing you Earth people call 'sarcasm', isn't it?"
--Ford Prefect
post #3 of 63
Anthony Anderson is Lex Luthor!
post #4 of 63
Wait. Ashton Kutcher turned it down?
post #5 of 63
Maybe they could let Jerry O'Connell don the aerosol spray cans one last time in order to achieve flight. Superman could leap tall buildings in a single whisp of strawberry freshness.
post #6 of 63
and LEX LUTHOR will be played by.......... KANGAROO JACK!!!!!!! Fear Kangaroo Luthor!!!! Ahhhhhh!!!!!!!! God Just let this thing fall apart already. It sounds so bad. The script sounds like shit. And now they throw around names like Ashton freakin Kutcher as Superman and Justin Timberlake as Jimmy. Aren't they the same frickin age? THIS WILL BE TERRIBLE. Fuck you Ratner. Fuck you Abbrams. FUCK YOU WARNER BROTHERS!!!!!!! I hate you all. YOU WILL KNEEL BEFORE ME!!!!!!!!!! YOU AND ONE DAY YOUR HEIRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #7 of 63
I will just go see it with a ton of friends and criticize it MST3K style. I am sure I will make a ton of people angry, but if they paid to see this film for any other reason they need some psychiatric help.

Who am I kidding? This will NEVER be made.
post #8 of 63
You are going to stone me for saying this, but from what I've read, the script is solid, an ambitious reimagine of the Superman mythos. Rough around the edges, but full of potential.

BUT, the execution so far is terrible.

Peters killed the Batman franchise and appears to have not learned anything from that slaying of a golden egg laying goose.

After Red Dragon, I know that Ratner has absolutely no knack for visual flair, no distinct style. These are necessary ingredients for this movie to work. He is competent, but I doubt he has the vision to make an epic.

The casting process should enter the Special Olympics. I understand trying to get a fairly big name, such as Hartnett, on board. But Aston what's-his-name? In what mirror universe is he a star? If they can't get someone like Jude Law, they should look for an unknown, find the new Hugh Jackman.
post #9 of 63
Oh man. That stupid bastard is fucking around again. I just read something on SuperheroHype that claimed to have the inside track on the COSTUME. Claiming that there was NO CAPE...yet. If any of you heard Kevin Smith's Superman experience, that gay wad Peters wanted to get rid of the costume. This is clearly his doing. NO CAPE! Are they mad!!!! Superman is all about the Cape. Plus they are saying that the costume is a darker blue which doesn't really make that big a deal, unless the fag Peters makes it Purple. And this guy says that there is no YELLOW in the Symbol but Black. If anyone read any Superman comic after OUR WORLDS AT WAR you'll see that he changed it to Black for a while as a kind of memorial for those that died, but he changed it back. SO STOP SCREWING WITH IT WARNER BROTHERS!!!!!! Damn. I mean come on. Spider-man pretty much stuck completely to the comic for his costume, except for the 3d webbing, though the comic is 2d so maybe his webbing is more 3d on the costume. People went nuts about all the other changes. People hated Power Ranger Goblin and fetish gear X-men and Daredevil. I'm not saying I had anything against those costume, but many people did and for that fact alone they hated the movie. So, do yourselfs a favor and don't f with a classic costume like that. Don't put nipples on it. or a huge code piece cuz Peters has dreams about sucking Superman off. Just give us Superman, and don't put some idiot like Ashton Kutcher or Jerry O'Connel is the suit.
When everyone you talk too, from the man who once played Supes, to other Directors, tell you to go with an relatively unknown DO IT!!!!!!!!!! It worked for Superman in every other film incarnation (even Dean Cain in some ways), it worked for Wolverine. Get some big name for the villain if you want, just don't give him top billing. That is frickin lame.
post #10 of 63
DVtS must really be Jon Peters. I got an idea, let's have Superman fly around in a frilly pink dress!!! huh!? how about that? fucking dick saying that SUPERMANs costume doesn't matter. It's Superman for fucks sake. And most people even after seeing those movies always come around complaining about the costumes, so don't tell me that everyone did a 180 after they saw it.
I liked the X-men costumes, and the Daredevil costumes (save for the collar part that never attached to the mask which was pretty gay), but Superman is a much different fucking story. A character that's been an American Icon for 65 years doesn't need a change or an update or anything like that. I think DC figured that out with the Electro Blue Superman fiasco.
Next thing we know there will be giant robot spiders and polar bears and Jimmy Olsen going down on Perry White in the Daily Planet washroom.
post #11 of 63
Yeah, right.

And a midget prancing around in yellow tights and a mask is a good idea.
post #12 of 63
You calling Wolverine a midget? Or are you talking about those weird Mexican wrestlers? cuz those guys are always prancing around and people actually go watch them. crazy mexicans. And like I said I liked the X-Men costumes. They changed them in the comics to look like the movie ones after all. It makes more sense. Secret team running around in flamboyant costumes? Right.

post #13 of 63
Thread Starter 
Quote:
GeneralZodOfKrypton:
Oh man. That stupid bastard is fucking around again. I just read something on SuperheroHype that claimed to have the inside track on the COSTUME. Claiming that there was NO CAPE...yet. If any of you heard Kevin Smith's Superman experience, that gay wad Peters wanted to get rid of the costume. This is clearly his doing. NO CAPE! Are they mad!!!! Superman is all about the Cape. :
With Kutcher lined up perhaps they wanted to include Sean William Scot (or whatever his name is) and call it "Dude, where's my Cape".

That would just about top it off.
post #14 of 63
I suppose it stands to reason that a villain like Zod would be so strangely obsessed with homosexuality.

And the black-and-red chest emblem looked great in "Kingdom Come." Although, yes, it would be kind of missing the point, if this is an origin story, to have the emblem start out black.
post #15 of 63
This Zod has stolen the world's supply of exclamation points. Back to the Phantom Zone with him.
post #16 of 63
i still say HUGH GRANT as super man, come one people, get on that trolley!!!...

at any rate, a cinemaically introduced new costume? no, that's unheard of!!! anyways, the SPACE GHOST comment by o'connel sounded very interesting, i'd rather see that than this already doomed piece of crap with wings...
post #17 of 63
I wonder how much longer this is going to go on before Warner Bros. finally pulls the plug on this thing. They've paid Ratner because they thought he could atleast attract some names, but so far, no dice. Jon Peters is set on making this movie HIS way, and with a track record like his and the fact that the budget has already been estimated at north of 170 mil, someone at the WB is gonna have to wake up and realize that this is not only going to be a disaster, but could end up killing the franchise to the point that it would be another 20 years or so before anyone could try to do it right.
post #18 of 63
It's nice to dream. I seriously think this site would crash from the celebration on this board if the project was killed. I still think its possible that they may yet still kill it though. I still think someone at the WB has to realize that it would be better to eat the loss so far and appear incompetent, than to suck down an incredibly huge loss and be confirmed to be incompetent. But that's just me.
post #19 of 63
<img src="http://www.empireonline.co.uk/img/news/joconnell.jpg" alt="" />

this Kangaroo Jack sliding mothafuka!?!?!

Ah - who fucking cares

it's beyond our control
post #20 of 63
Even though I'm sure this movie will be a train wreck of colossal proportions, this Matthew Bomer kid sure as hell looks like Superman to me...

<a href="http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=14721" target="_blank">http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=14721</a>
post #21 of 63
He looks so nondescript.
post #22 of 63
THis film has gone through so much chaos that I don't think there's a chance in hell it will be worth a crap.
post #23 of 63
I agree with you that Brendan is to old for this part seeing as how it will take 10 years to finish the trilogy. If they had made this movie like 7 years ago he would have been a good choice.
And Quiet American showed how great he would be. He played a dual character in that. A guy that wore the face of a mild manered guy, and then it turned out he was a CIA agent. He was a bit out of shape though. I think he could pull both Clark Kent and Superman off quite well.
I don't know this Bomer guy so I don't know if he has any talent. I thought that Mutant-X guy looked just like Superman from the pictures I saw posted on this site, but then I saw an episode of Mutant-X...
post #24 of 63
I would rather see Chris Reeves play the part, wheelchair and all, than Brendon Fraser.
post #25 of 63
I was anti-fraser for a long time, but go watch The Quiet American he IS Clark Kent...
post #26 of 63
While I'd prefer if WB went with the unknown, Bomer has the creepiest eyes.
post #27 of 63
I'm not anti-Fraser, but he doesn't have the look or the right personality to play Supes.
post #28 of 63
Over at Darkhorizons Selma Blair declared she was going to fight tooth and nail for the role of lois lane. At they'll get at least one thing right IF she gets it.
post #29 of 63
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Mayhem:
I'm not anti-Fraser, but he doesn't have the look or the right personality to play Supes.
He has absolutely the look and the personality. As far as any name actor goes he is the runaway best choice.
Have you ever read a Superman comic?
post #30 of 63
Here's a great Superman-ish pic of Bomer from the <a href="http://www.guidinglightstars.com/actors/bomer.html" target="_blank">Guiding Lights</a> site:
<img src="http://www.guidinglightstars.com/actors/images/pic_bomer.jpg" alt="" />

A bit too pretty but looks like a more mature Tom Welling.
post #31 of 63
This morning's trades say Ratner's option to direct has expired.

If Michael Bay steps in, I will be eternally amused.
post #32 of 63
If Ratner is out, then I'll be happy...

Still think McG would be a great choice to helm the project...
post #33 of 63
All this crap about Michael Bay has already been denied so many times. If it ever came to be true, that Michael Bay, one of the devil's many minions, was to direct Superman, the world will feel Zod's wrath. He can go back and suck off his buddy Jerry "dumbfuck" Bruckheimer and go back to the feiry underworld he came from. I never want to see a Superman poster that says from the makers of Armageddon and Pearl Harbor. If I do, it will burn.

post #34 of 63
I'd rather see a Michael Bay Superman than a BRett Ratner Superman. The former would be much more amusing.
post #35 of 63
I can't believe anyone even cares about this stupid project anymore.
post #36 of 63
Hey, psst!

As a wise green Jedi Master once said, <a href="http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Movies&action=page &type_id=&cat_id=270338&obj_id=38017" target="_blank">"There is another."</a>
post #37 of 63
Hey, psst!

As a wise green Jedi Master once said, <a href="http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial.asp?aff_id=0&this_cat=Movies&action=page &type_id=&cat_id=270338&obj_id=38017" target="_blank">"There is another."</a>
post #38 of 63
Every day that goes by without any headway being made on this film only increases my chances of being there opening night to see the result. The bigger the pileup, the better the wreck.

I expect, and demand, things like lead actors pulling out halfway through filming, several stuntpeople dying, local ecosystems irrevocably ruined, and last-minute script rewrites that have Mr. Mxyzptlk featured as the main villain.
post #39 of 63
Especially in <a href="http://www.cinescape.com/multimedia/Master_Site/People/Master_SitePeople285913.jpg" target="_blank">this</a> shot Henry Cavill looks great for Supes. IMDB lists his height as 6'1". Beef the guy up and we just may have a winner.
post #40 of 63
Also, check out these shots of Cavill: <a href="http://www.intensevibe.com/henry/photos/captures/comc/058.jpg" target="_blank">1</a> <a href="http://www.intensevibe.com/henry/photos/premieres/premiere001.jpg" target="_blank">2</a> and <a href="http://www.intensevibe.com/henry/photos/moviestills/castle002.jpg" target="_blank">3</a>. Can anyone vouch for his acting skills?

Sorry for the double post but this seems to be the first positive bit of info leaked about the film.
post #41 of 63
It looks like the project is moving closer and closer back to square one, and with all the shit surrounding the project this far, that may not be a bad thing.
post #42 of 63
Well, I am glad fraser and Bomer are out of contention. Neither of them seemed right for it. I am very glad Ratner is most likely out. I think its about time Joel Silver stepped in and gave the superman project a bullet time kick in the ass. He can't seem to do any wrong right now. The Matrix is a WB property, as is Supes, so I would guess he would be the man to turn to.

I know harry at AICN mentioned Micahel Bay being available too. Please god no. michael bay would be worse than ratner. the only decent movie he made was the rock...every movie to follow was sooooo overly sappy and idiotic. Give this movie to Joel and the Wachowskis. That would be interesting. Let them rap up Matrix 3, and then what do they have to do? Three movies is a life work for some. Give supes to the Wachowskis, I think they would respect the material and possibly have that "new take" Warner is looking for, without alienating every superman fan ever i.e. Abrams script.
post #43 of 63
I suppose it makes sense -- if Ratner goes, the actors he wanted get tossed with him, because whoever steps in (assuming Ratner is not kept on, of course) will want their choice in the role.

Frankly, I'm amazed I still care at all at this point. But I suppose like Saucy Jack said, it's really more out of morbid "rubbernecker" curiosity...
post #44 of 63
This project is now officially in the toilet. Whatever emerges will be nothing but shit.
post #45 of 63
Ratner is out according to AICN. He held a rally outside GM and let everybody know his plans for the future(RH 3)

<a href="http://www.aint-it-cool.com/display.cgi?id=14771" target="_blank">Ratner explains all</a>
post #46 of 63
Wait a second?

Walken was going to be Perry White?

WALKEN?

[Edit: Or was Harry making a funny?]

post #47 of 63
Quote:
S.R. Hadden:
No, he probably did want Walken for Perry White. Steve Martin I hear is in talks...
Y'know, Martin I could see.
post #48 of 63
Harry's insinuating his *Ratner exits/enter Bay* story (posted January 15th) was completely true. These last 2 months were just the WB and Ratboy making the transition, on their own time. Either that or they refused to announce Ratner's exit, until they had a definite contract with Bay (or someone else).

Harry's original <a href="http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=14202" target="_blank">scoop</a>.

After the WB's insistent denial, <a href="http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=14205" target="_blank">update</a>.

Starting to add up. All we're missing is Bay (or McG) being announced as the new director.

These possible extreme acts of subterfuge (which must include the Jon Peters/Ratner gossip) would really portray the WB as the neurotic ass monkeys, many thought them to be. They must scramble during every one of these leaks.

I'll laugh if Bay get's the gig.
post #49 of 63
I will too. I don't understand why the WB insists on hiring these kind of directors. Maybe they should look to Universal and their terrific move of hiring Ang Lee as director of Hulk?

post #50 of 63
Quote:
mecha superior:
After the WB's insistent denial, <a href="http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=14205" target="_blank">update</a>.
That article mentions Ratner showing up at NYU to show some of his films last term.

As long as I've been here, I haven't heard anything about this. It would have been covered in the paper--the crowds would have been fairly large.

The only Ratner event was "Red Dragon," and he didn't even show for that.

Just my two cents.
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