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post #51 of 72
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Originally posted by Farmer Vincent's fritters
There are as many types of Christians out there as there are torture scenes in Ichi (full circle, baby). The term gets thrown around here a lot without qualifying who is really being discussed. Not every Christian is a holy roller in a bright white suit complete with a blue haired wife.

With that said, I am guessing that discussing Ichi at your local church (ANY church) would lead to you be thrown out on your sinning arse.
Well it certainly wouldn't really be the proper topic to talk about.

And the funny thing is: There is absolutely nothing wrong in that notion. Just common sense.
post #52 of 72
As for Blockbuster, well they have to listen to the consumer and unfortunately the vast number of consumers are apart of families looking for a Friday night film with the family and such. So just like Wal-Mart they listen to what those consumers want and if a majority want nothingg stronger than an R so be it. It's there choice. But for you who don't care? You have PLENTY of other choices like I pointed out above...
post #53 of 72
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Originally posted by CTDeLude
Trying to blame it on Christians is scapegoating. Blaming on Miramax and it's partners in crime; now you're getting somewhere...
No, it isn't scapegoating. It's the truth.

Of course you're incapable of actually reading a post, so let me explain something to you...when someone says that the christian right fights against adult films in stores, it of course does not mean that all christians in the country are against adult films. That is an implication that you take out of any statement made against the christian groups.

However, you saying that christian groups don't fight against these types of films is just a lie.
post #54 of 72
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Originally posted by Guttenberg Fan Club
No, it isn't scapegoating. It's the truth.

Of course you're incapable of actually reading a post, so let me explain something to you...when someone says that the christian right fights against adult films in stores, it of course does not mean that all christians in the country are against adult films. That is an implication that you take out of any statement made against the christian groups.

However, you saying that christian groups don't fight against these types of films is just a lie.
So do Muslim groups and Jewish groups and Soccer Moms who might be none of those as well as loads of others with no religious motivation. So before starting to insult me please take that into consideration as well. Because the lack of inclusion of all the many other groups shows (whether meant or not) a singling out of Christians alone. You may not see it but obviously others here did...

And frankly, money talks, so if Blockbuster could make quite a bit more money by renting out Unrated films and not losing all the families who rent there they would.
post #55 of 72
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Originally posted by CTDeLude
So do Muslim groups and Jewish groups and Soccer Moms who might be none of those as well as loads of others with no religious motivation. So before starting to insult me please take that into consideration as well. Because the lack of inclusion of all the many other groups shows (whether meant or not) and singling out of Christians alone.

And frankly, money talks, so if Blockbuster could make quite a bit more money by renting out Unrated films and not losing all the families who rent there they would.
Oy.

Christian groups lead the charge, DeLude. I don't know why you're even bothering to argue this. Wal-Mart didn't stop selling any unrated film because a group of Muslims asked them to.

I'm also missing where I insulted you. Hell, I don't know where in this thread I've said a negative thing about anybody - christians included.
post #56 of 72
Anyone that makes a blanket statement about any one group of people is an idiot. Yeah, I get the sweet sweet irony in that statement...
post #57 of 72
Racists are douche bags.

I'd like to see you find the problem with that blanket statement.
post #58 of 72
It was a joke. Didn't the second sentence lay that out for you?
post #59 of 72
Yes.
post #60 of 72
Well, OK then. Thanks for not bringing up Nazis and serial killers.
post #61 of 72
My post should have been read with a winking icon. I just refuse to use them.
post #62 of 72
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Originally posted by Guttenberg Fan Club
My post should have been read with a winking icon. I just refuse to use them.
Ditto.
post #63 of 72
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Originally posted by mdamien13
Thanks for the feedback.

I absolutely loved Audition (the whole movie, not just the last 10 minutes), that's why I brought up this movie. I thought the whole movie was beautifully, then seamlessly transitioned into a brutal film so quickly you were already neck-deep before you realized where the film had gone.

I don't like shock for shock's sake, though, so if it sounds like Ishi the Killer is going to be that I might have to rent it (or wait for more positive word of mouth before blind buying).
Miike is very much a different animal in that you can't rely on other people's opinions at all in helping you make buying decisions. It all comes down to your personal taste. For every hundred people you find that love his work, you will find another hundred people who think it is deplorable. All that is going to matter in the end is whether or not you like it.

If you rent it first, you are going to get the R version which is very different from the uncut version. That won't even give you a definitive answer, but at least you would be able to make a more informed decision.

On the other hand, blind buying Ichi (or any Miike film) isn't really much of a risk as long as you buy the uncut version. If you find that you hate it, you can easily unload it on eBay or something. There is always someone looking for the uncut version of this movie. The R rated version would be a little more difficult to get rid of because, for the most part, anyone who wants Ichi doesn't want the watered down version.

To make an unnecessarily long story short...you really can't go wrong either way, so decide with confidence!

Edit: well damn. I guess if I had rest of the topic before posting, I would have known that my on topic post is now waaaay the fuck off topic.

God I hate fucking religious discussions. They never go anywhere, no one is ever going to change their view, there are brainwashed idiots in all religious factions...ummm...that's about all I'm going to say right now.

Ok, one more thing...all organized religion is a load of bullshit. Now I'm done.
post #64 of 72
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Originally posted by Guttenberg Fan Club
Oy.

Christian groups lead the charge, DeLude. I don't know why you're even bothering to argue this. Wal-Mart didn't stop selling any unrated film because a group of Muslims asked them to.

I'm also missing where I insulted you. Hell, I don't know where in this thread I've said a negative thing about anybody - christians included.
"Oy" is right my friend...


Fine, let's live with the fact that life includes (and always will) three things: death, taxes, and Christian groups protesting everything unrated and anything else that might be "fun."


Let's never argue that fact again.

There's got to be something else....
post #65 of 72
I always wondered why Bruce Almighty didn't generate more protests in the US than it did...which was what, none?
post #66 of 72
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Originally posted by Scott Standridge
I always wondered why Bruce Almighty didn't generate more protests in the US than it did...which was what, none?
No one seems to know why Almighty got a free pass, but I suspect it has something to do with the fact that Christ is on the board at Universal.
post #67 of 72
So where do you Asian film lovers get your fix of Asian cinema, anyway? No video stores around here carry Miike's films, and buying them will be too expensive (even though I do have Battle Royale in my collection). Is bootleg and Kazaa the only solution?
post #68 of 72
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Originally posted by mrstiffie
Same reason 'Oh God' slipped by: no Jesus. I saw it back when I felt like being a christian and it honestly does not offend.
I disagree. I think it slipped by because people honestly believed that even if George Burns wasn't God, he was so old that he must have known God when they were Kids together and thus could give a fair portrayal.
post #69 of 72
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Originally posted by Farmer Vincent's fritters
No one seems to know why Almighty got a free pass, but I suspect it has something to do with the fact that Christ is on the board at Universal.
This thread has been toasted, but...I think the reason Bruce Almighty wasn't protested is because there was nothing to protest. It pretty much was just an hour and a half of 'God works hard, you should appreciate him more - even if he can't answer all your prayers'.
post #70 of 72
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Originally posted by Anger Management
So where do you Asian film lovers get your fix of Asian cinema, anyway? No video stores around here carry Miike's films, and buying them will be too expensive (even though I do have Battle Royale in my collection). Is bootleg and Kazaa the only solution?

find an region-free dvd player and go to the internet

but just be careful and do a little bit of looking arouns to make sure what you get is not a bootleg
post #71 of 72
www.dddhouse.com

Cheap, very cheap...
post #72 of 72
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Originally posted by CTDeLude
www.dddhouse.com

Cheap, very cheap...
Cut, very cut ...

By over 13 minutes to be exact.

In case you were talking about the HK DVD of ICHI THE KILLER which I'm not really sure of considering how far off topic this thread has gone ...
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