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post #1 of 26
12/5/03 at 8:04pm
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Democratic presidential candidate Al Sharpton will host this weekend's broadcast of "Saturday Night Live," but viewers in Iowa won't see it.

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All four NBC television affiliates in the state announced they won't carry the show because Sharpton is one of nine candidates seeking the Democratic nomination. The selection process begins with the Iowa caucuses Jan. 19.

Tim Gardner, director of creative services at WHO-TV in Des Moines, Iowa, said station lawyers decided that airing the 90-minute show would trigger federal "equal time" provisions - meaning the stations would have to offer an equal amount of air time to each of the other presidential candidates.

WHO and two other stations instead will air a previous episode of the 90-minute show. KWWL viewers in the Waterloo, Iowa, area will get to watch three infomercials pitching the Miracle Blade, Total Trolley and something titled "Attacking Anxiety."

Sharpton campaign manager Charles Halloran was puzzled by the decision.

"Their lawyers must not have finished law school because NBC went through all sorts of research to make sure that it was appropriate," Halloran said.
Ugh. This makes me sick.
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post #2 of 26
12/5/03 at 8:10pm
The decision is stupid but the claim of racism of the threads title is unfounded.

This just means that the campaing laws are a confusing mess, or the lawyers for those stations don't know what the hell they're doing.

I'm looking forward to it, I don't agree with Sharpton's policts but he sure is funny as hell, even when he's trying to be serious.
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post #3 of 26
12/5/03 at 8:13pm
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Originally posted by CapitanAmerica
This just means that the campaing laws are a confusing mess, or the lawyers for those stations don't know what the hell they're doing.
Yet, the lawyers for the other 49 states are geniuses?
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post #4 of 26
12/5/03 at 8:16pm
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Originally posted by Diva
Yet, the lawyers for the other 49 states are geniuses?
Huh?
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post #5 of 26
12/5/03 at 8:17pm
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You claimed that the station lawyers in Iowa were confused by election law. I asked why the station lawyers for the rest of the US seemed to have no problems allowing Sharpton to appear.
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post #6 of 26
12/5/03 at 8:25pm
Actually it won't be showing in California (not exactly the bastion of racism) as well as Washington D.C. and one other state...
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post #7 of 26
12/5/03 at 8:29pm
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Originally posted by Diva
You claimed that the station lawyers in Iowa were confused by election law. I asked why the station lawyers for the rest of the US seemed to have no problems allowing Sharpton to appear.
Because from your quote, that's basically what Sharpton's campaing manager is saying.

Additonally, it's not suprising that in Iowa they're giong to be more careful about campaing laws as they are one of the firsts states to hold primaries. (and important ones at that).

So there's no evidence of racism here.
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post #8 of 26
12/5/03 at 9:00pm
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There's no evidence of WMD in Iraq either. Evidence doesn't seem to matter much these days.
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post #9 of 26
12/5/03 at 9:04pm
http://www.wcfcourier.com/articles/2...f30056f731.txt

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According to the statement, in the case of the Sharpton episode, NBC has left it up to individual stations to comply with the equal time rule, which states that television stations must treat all legitimate candidates equally.

"Iowa is in a unique position with the early caucuses and no clear cut definition of who is qualified and who isn't," reads the statement. "Since NBC is declining to offer equal time during network programming and is not offering any alternative Saturday Night Live programming, we have no choice but to preempt network (programming)."

In place of "Saturday Night Live," KWWL will air three infomercials pitching the Miracle Blade, Total Trolley and something titled "Attacking Anxiety. ( LOL!!! ) " All other Iowa affiliates will air a previous 90-minute episode of "Saturday Night Live."
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/....sharpton.snl/

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The Federal Communications Commission regulates the broadcast networks and the amount of time candidates are on air as a way to protect the public airwaves.

The equal time rule would apply nationally if Sharpton were on the ballot in more than 10 states, according to Bobby Baker, an FCC attorney.

Because Sharpton hasn't qualified in more than 10 states, the rule will only effect stations in states where Sharpton has already qualified for the ballot.

The rule does not apply to news programs and talk shows.
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post #10 of 26
12/5/03 at 9:20pm
This is completely absurd and smells like an excuse. If the FCC weren't so rotten to the core, maybe they could be appealed to.
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post #11 of 26
12/5/03 at 9:23pm
It's not like Sharpton has a chance anyways.

Speaking about his politics only...he would lose.
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post #12 of 26
12/5/03 at 9:23pm
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Originally posted by CTDeLude
It's not like Sharpton has a chance anyways.

Speaking about his politics only...he would lose.
True, the question is, who will get more votes? Sharpton or Kucinish?
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post #13 of 26
12/5/03 at 9:30pm
In that case they might vote for the third party candidate.
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post #14 of 26
12/5/03 at 9:37pm
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Originally posted by CapitanAmerica
True, the question is, who will get more votes? Sharpton or Kucinish?
Gary Coleman
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post #15 of 26
12/5/03 at 10:05pm
Diva has jumped the gun on this one. I don't know why she believes there is racism as far as the presidential race goes.
It's plain to see if you look back in history over all of the presidents this country has had, you've had a mix of Jews, Asians, and other races sitting in the Oval Office... uh wait, um... oh, yeah...
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post #16 of 26
12/5/03 at 10:11pm
Do you discount any other possibility?
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post #17 of 26
12/5/03 at 10:28pm
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Originally posted by CTDeLude
Do you discount any other possibility?
No.

I'm merely pointing out that the voting public and the government itself of this country has not always exactly been what might be called 'open minded'. There's always a lot of rhetoric about 'the right man for the job', but unless he (can't be a she, either) meets certain non-important criteria such as marriage status, sexual orientation, religion, and race, good luck getting elected, regardless of how good or poor an administrator you may be.

BTW, Sharpton is a dolt.
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post #18 of 26
12/5/03 at 10:45pm
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Originally posted by AphexHybrid, ex-semuta addict
No.

I'm merely pointing out that the voting public and the government itself of this country has not always exactly been what might be called 'open minded'. There's always a lot of rhetoric about 'the right man for the job', but unless he (can't be a she, either) meets certain non-important criteria such as marriage status, sexual orientation, religion, and race, good luck getting elected, regardless of how good or poor an administrator you may be.

BTW, Sharpton is a dolt.
All you gotta know is that I hope and pray Condi Rice runs in 2008.

Because she has my vote in a second.
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post #19 of 26
12/5/03 at 11:01pm
I wasn't casting any dispersions against you, CT. Just pointing out some ugly facts. When we have a gay Chinese athiest, followed by an obese black female,followed by an Iraqi-American as president, then I'll clam up.

I don't see this incident with the equal time laws as a move by racists. The laws are applicable it seems, but I can't truly determine one way or the other without being a fly on the wall during the FCC meetings.
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post #20 of 26
12/6/03 at 12:06am
It's not so much the lawyers of the other 49 States that have a problem...it's the network affiliate station managers who would have a huge equal time problem to deal with.
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post #21 of 26
12/6/03 at 2:29pm
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Originally posted by AphexHybrid, ex-semuta addict
It's plain to see if you look back in history over all of the presidents this country has had, you've had a mix of Jews, Asians, and other races sitting in the Oval Office... uh wait, um... oh, yeah
When the most "diverse" Pres you can claim is some Papist Mick, yeah. Unless you want to give Jefferson props for bangin' his slaves.
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post #22 of 26
12/6/03 at 3:47pm
I just mentioned this to a group of people hungover in my apartment. Dumbest response:

"WHO isn't racist. Sharpton is. That's why they aren't showing it."

Um...what? I hate Sharpton. He's a fucking idiot, but this is complete hypocrisy. Anyone else remember when Steve Forbes hosted SNL while he was running? I wonder what they did then...
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post #23 of 26
12/6/03 at 6:50pm
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Originally posted by AphexHybrid, ex-semuta addict
I don't see this incident with the equal time laws as a move by racists. The laws are applicable it seems, but I can't truly determine one way or the other without being a fly on the wall during the FCC meetings.
Since the FCC chair is Michael Powell, a black man, I would seriously doubt racism on their part. You could make the argument that it's a political thing, but only if Sharpton actually had a chance at the nomination.
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post #24 of 26
12/6/03 at 7:11pm
What's really disturbing, is how easy people throw around baseless claims of racism today. Many times, when it has no merit, it's used to shut down an opposing view or person, to make them defensive since it's such an ugly accusation.

The word has been abused so much it's starting to have no meaning, and when real racism occurs, it's true impact and uglyness is lost.
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post #25 of 26
12/7/03 at 7:43pm
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Honestly guys, I thought the title was funny and didn't mean it seriously. But at the same time, without knowing the facts, that's the first thing that came to my mind. Whether that's fucked up or not, it speaks to the type of thinking most people have when it comes to race relations in this country.

I must say though that the only funny part in the whole show was Tina Fey and Jimmy Fallon going off on the states that didn't air the Sharpton episode.

Boston- They hate black people!
Iowa - Never heard of it.

I can't remember the others that well.
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post #26 of 26
12/7/03 at 8:16pm
Crap, I missed the whole thing. Was watching "The Last Samurai".
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